Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[Yeats]

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If no one comments either way the topic goes away.

Yes, it's clear some of you have no intention of letting this go, that's very apparent.

[Yeats]

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Actually bucky, this topic is a discussion. It starts at point A, goes around, and ends back at point A again. Then it starts all over.

[87Birdman]

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It's a forum, for discussing the game, and people are bringing up legitimate issues. They should. What's truly awful is using silly, insignificant, totally unrelated analogies to silence and defend some very questionable business practice's of removing features and re-adding them years later. This business practice has been happening far too long and NFL Football Video gaming has suffered for well over half a decade because of it.

This is a forum where this type of discussion belongs. Think about it.

Tha analogies are only insignificant when people refuse to see what is in front of them. These practices go on every where and choices have to be made along with sacrafices.

Only one location = Only 1 NFL License
Move somewhere else lose location
Play a different football game lose NFL License
Home owners assoiation create rules you must follow
EA creates rules you must follow
Don't like rule move and lose what you want to get other things you want
Don't like Ea rules build your own or play another football game.

And that is just with houses. This goes on every where in the real world. But they aren't perfect and have made mistakes in the past, and are working on fixing it. Yes it sucks things couldn't make it in, but it seems like it is just negative things that happened this year when in reality there have been great things to happen. It just seems like the negative crowd is so much louder and drown out the positive crowd. And I said louder not larger.

Discussions should incorporate both sides, but it seems like everything is directed back towards the negative like the positive doesn't even exist, and that is wrong. Because then it isn't a discussion it is complaining and whineing.

[Yeats]

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Discussions should incorporate both sides, but it seems like everything is directed back towards the negative like the positive doesn't even exist, and that is wrong. Because then it isn't a discussion it is complaining and whineing.

That's my general observation as well.

[bucky60]

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Actually bucky, this topic is a discussion. It starts at point A, goes around, and ends back at point A again. Then it starts all over.

I just want the reason for the discussion to stop/go away. Without the reason, the discussion stops. Just stop removing significant features and keep building the game up. I'm really tired of the "new dev team, they need 3 years". I want the reason to go away. 8 years on this gen? 3 new directions? More features removed? Madden should be kick "&$@#(" by now, with a crap load of options.

[kehlis]

Let's get away from the pointless back and forth about who's right and who's wrong (since not everyone will ever see eye to eye) and back to discussion.

[bucky60]

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Tha analogies are only insignificant when people refuse to see what is in front of them.

Only one location = Only 1 NFL License
Move somewhere else lose location
Play a different football game lose NFL License
Home owners assoiation create rules you must follow
EA creates rules you must follow
Don't like rule move and lose what you want to get other things you want
Don't like Ea rules build your own or play another football game.

What's in front of them is only one NFL Licensed football game and MANY choices of housing, including building your own home. Building your own NFL Licensed football game isn't practical OR EVEN CURRENTLY POSSIBLE.

You analogy is AWFUL.

[moneal2001]

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@bucky the analogy fits because the nfl licence is like the location of the house. you have no other choice for football game if you want the nfl. just like you have no other choice in houses if you want that location. unless you buy the house, destroy it, and build the one you want. which is impractical and impossible if you only have enough for the original house.

[themassacre771.1]

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Are we really arguing about analogies? This isn't a damn creative writing class.

[wheelman990]

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It stopped being a discussion several days ago. Now it's the same few people, jumping into every possible thread and either complaining about the lack of editing options, or complaining about the overall game and its quality.

Interesting, I thought it was the same old people coming in to defend EA's decisions? Why feed the fire here?

You know, I can see people who are really upset about this coming here to get their points across and even try and push EA to get this in the game(either on the disc or a dlc). What I don't get at all are people actually taking the time to come here and state over and over that they don't care about this feature and are doing their best to tell the majority that do care they are wrong and to give EA a break. I think a lot of people don't understand the very point of a thread like this.

Bottom line once again:
It is very clear by reading every website, forum, thread, post, that the lack of player editing is a huge issue! So I can't see at this point what exactly some people are defending.

If you aren't unhappy about the lack of player editing, that is great. We are happy for you, we really are. We don't even want to tell you that you are wrong for thinking how you do. It's your game too, it's your money too, we hope you love Madden 13. However, what is the point coming here and telling all these people they need to stop posting and see eye to eye with you? I don't get that at all. This isn't just a few people, read the entire web guys. This is everywhere. Lots and lots of upset people. Get over it.

[Aftershock9958]

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Interesting, I thought it was the same old people coming in to defend EA's decisions? Why feed the fire here?

You know, I can see people who are really upset about this coming here to get their points across and even try and push EA to get this in the game(either on the disc or a dlc). What I don't get at all are people actually taking the time to come here and state over and over that they don't care about this feature and are doing their best to tell the majority that do care they are wrong and to give EA a break. I think a lot of people don't understand the very point of a thread like this.

Bottom line once again:
It is very clear by reading every website, forum, thread, post, that the lack of player editing is a huge issue! So I can't see at this point what exactly some people are defending.

If you aren't unhappy about the lack of player editing, that is great. We are happy for you, we really are. We don't even want to tell you that you are wrong for thinking how you do. It's your game too, it's your money too, we hope you love Madden 13. However, what is the point coming here and telling all these people they need to stop posting and see eye to eye with you? I don't get that at all. This isn't just a few people, read the entire web guys. This is everywhere. Lots and lots of upset people. Get over it.

A lot of the back and forth is generated by the particularly negative posters who are so incensed by a few things being left out, that it's almost like they say to themselves, "screw it, let's just verbally tear this whole thing down." Just as 87birdman said, "Discussions should incorporate both sides, but it seems like everything is directed back towards the negative like the positive doesn't even exist, and that is wrong. Because then it isn't a discussion it is complaining and whineing."

If the focus was kept on those particular things I don't think anyone would be pushing back, but there's just too many people who are pretending there's not a single step forward and the entire edition of Madden is one huge leap backwards. DNMHIII is a great example of someone who keeps it in perspective - he is pretty unhappy with some of the issues but doesn't hesitate to praise the good things, where certain others just want to pretend that good doesn't exist.

After about day four, civility and cool-headedness were lost among a lot of the OS posters.

[DeuceDouglas]

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I don't think we really know how huge of a deal it is yet. Once the game comes out we'll have a better idea.

[jerwoods]

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the thing that makes me upset is Looman Comments on Twitter
u know Franciese is Dead this is a mode for the next Decade as he says
its his right to try something new
but my beef is do not act like 100 Percent Want CCM
i Know he Has to Sell the Game but IT comes off as arrogance
Casey can teach him how to talk to people that listens lol

[cuttingteeth]

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Yup, it has gotten awful in these threads...so much that I mistakenly posted the below in the wrong thread that was also full of people talking crap to me.
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Everyone keeps scolding me for wanting this game to be in any sense a quick way to play football the way I'd prefer to - with accurate players as I see their ratings and abilities.

Why try to make me feel guilty about that? I refuse to be made to feel like I should apologize for not wanting to go through tons of practices to "possibly" get the players where I want them. Yes, I agree that is realistic to the NFL experience, but I enjoy bypassing it to finally just get to and play the d@mned game, you know. Also, please, the assumptions that I must want all of my players cheesed out, it has to stop. It's annoying. All I want is to be able to quickly make breakout players have suitable ratings to keep the competition accurate, to keep that team accurate per helping them win or compete better right then and there when it is suddenly needed...and not have to restart over and over.
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I was seemingly the first person on this forum expressing fears and worries and being upset on June 4th about the lack of features. You would have thought I was the demon seed being attacked by EA developers themselves. It was total suck. Three weeks later, and there just keep being the same kind of people to the forums, new or old-and-just-checking-in. No matter. The issue is that those of us fearful the game is going to suck seemingly can't have opinions...but all the rest of you talking smack to us and saying how awesome the game will be...you guys are angels apparently. It's lame.

[DeuceDouglas]

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Yeah, and anybody who is excited for Madden is an EA employee or lacky. It's the same back and forth that has been going on for days now and it's pretty old.

Where it got out of control was when the people who were upset that roster editing wasn't in tried to derail other threads and bring every issue back to the lack or roster edit ability. Along with that came the outrageous exaggerations of what would happen as a result of not having that roster edit ability.

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