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Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)
Do you guys feel that the pass rush has been improved from last year's "DTs only" thing?
I'd like a more researched opinion from someone who paid more attention, but it seemed like DEs were more involved. Definitely had a few plays where Bruce Irvin was right in RG3's face before a pass when I plugged him in on Nickel packages.Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)
WOW, i cant believe what just happened! I'm playing as the 49ers and I threw an out route to vernon davis, the guy tackled Davis... but Davis was laying on top of the defender, his knees never hit the ground, and he lifted himself up and ran a good 5 yards before he was tackled. I wish this demo had instant replay!Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)
The player models look terrible. I watched the new features video and Larry Fitzgerald is literally a square shape wtf man.Comment
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holy crap why cant they fix this? ive thrown 6 screen passes and only 1 of them for positive yards- as i have 3 O lineman blocking nobody and the defense hitting the RB the second he catches the ball!Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)
It pisses me off how soo many open passes are dropped...Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)
Next month will mark 10 years since I first became a member of this site, and without fail, for the past 10 years, I have seen Madden games met with outgoing enthusiasm initially only for that enthusiasm to turn into bitterness and resentment shortly afterwards. To be honest, it saddens me how predictable the cycle is.
I credit OS for expanding my expectations on sports games. Before I joined this site, I was what you consider a casual gamer. I was an avid video gamer, but I didn't play for the same experiences that I do now. I loved sports, but when it came to sports video games, I didn't care for the nuanced experience. As long as the game had accurate rosters and didn't feature over-the-top gameplay, I was happy. However, interacting in these forums over the years has made me appreciate when games try their best to replicate their respective sport in true-to-life fashion. And it goes beyond producing accurate stats; player movement and contact has to be realistic as well. Unfortunately, even with the Infinity Engine, Madden still drops the ball in this aspect in my opinion.
One of the first things I look for when I'm controlling a player in a game is weight and momentum. When a game lacks this, it kills any immersion I could have experienced almost instantly. The zigzag running has been rampant in this series throughout this entire generation, and when a game fails to address this fundamental issue, every other improvement is nullified to me. The same goes OL/DL interaction.
The bottomline is, when I play this demo, I don't feel like I'm playing a AAA sports title. For this to be one of the premiere franchises in EA Sports' history, the lack of effort and polish put into this title is unbelievable. Again, this is just my opinion. For those who enjoy the game, more power to you. I, on the other hand, will be passing on another Madden title yet again. If the football bug bites me this season, I'll just pop in my copy of APF 2K8, which I feel gives a way more authentic on-the-field experience than a game which had five years to make the necessary improvements to compete.
Another part that is equally frustration figuring out who is to blame. Do I blame EA Tiburon for continuing to make what I feel are lackluster games, or do I blame EA Sports as the publisher? I look at the titles EA Tiburon made during the Xbox/PS2 era and compare them to this current era. I know it's beating a dead horse mentioning this, but why is that the games of yesteryear are more polished than the games of now? What has changed in those seven years? And to add to the "suspense," I won't even answer my own question...Last edited by Mos1ted; 08-16-2012, 03:04 AM.According to my old marketing professor, satisfaction is when product performance meets or exceeds consumer expectation.Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)
Seems like they completely overhyped the infinity engine. I just saw Patrick Willis bounce straight off Ahmad Bradshaw.Comment
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This new physics engine is awesome, definitely a huge step in the right direction. For instance, Frank gore ran a blast at the 5 yard line...got lit up when he hit the hole, his right leg bent backward in an awkward angle, and got injured. That little thing like that I love, it looked like a torn acl and he actually got injured in the game. Hope that makes sense...
Im fairly positive this is the first positive thing I've said about an ea football game in 5 years. I love the new engine, its a great building blockComment
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)
Well after many games played with this demo...one thing that sticks out from the last 5-6 years of playing madden..especially the demo's each year. I keep wanting to come back for more and play more of the demo...this has not ever happened to me in these last 5-6 years with madden demo's...that obviously says a lot about how much better this game is and most importantly how damn fun it is to play.
I was and am a 2k fan..always have been...my heart was crushed when 2k5 would be the last game from 2k...ever since than i have had trouble each year with madden trying to like the game so much but never could...heck i even prayed that EAsports would finally make a fun playing NFL football game..seriously no lie..i actually prayed for it and i must say my prayers have been answered!!.
I am having a blast with the demo. I keep seeing new things each time i play the game that amazes me and makes me say "WOW"! Obviously there are things quirky with this game..bugs here and there..the infinity engine doing some strange things but for some reason..i can "easily" overlook these things because the game is still fun. It's sorta like how NFL 2k5 was..while it had its quirky bugs and did some odd things here and there...i loved the game because it was "fun" and "exciting" to play...this is the exact way Madden 13 is for me.
Some of you guys writing this game off are seriously dissecting this game...if you dissect a videogame..YOU WILL FIND things that are wrong or buggy and if that is all your looking for...you will NEVER be able to fully enjoy a game for its good aspects. I feel bad for those that are not happy with this game because of its bugs and quirky things it does on occasion because the positives of this game far outweigh the negative things.
I just keep wanting to come back for more and while some games are not as close and exciting as others...the majority of my games after some slider tweaking,etc..have been a blast to play.
One thing i must say is that i do not care what anyone says...but having the players react with emotion after good and bad plays..side line cut scenes...excitment in players after scoring a TD, crowds reacting to good and bad plays and commentary that actually feels good to my ears really have done wonders for Madden and this is why i have always said in these forums for the 10 years i been here at Operation Sports is that these non-gameplay elements can actually make or break a sports videogame...EA has finally seen the light and now are on the right track with its presentation and atmosphere... i thank you EA for putting in effort this year in madden. Most of us finally will have a NFL Football game that will be "fun" to play. Sure it may not get everything right...the X's & O's may not be perfect or far from perfect but at the end of the day...the fun and excitement will still be there while playing this game and to me and a lot of us..that is all that matters when it comes to enjoying videogames.
DEVELOPERS: You guys gotta keep going at the presentation, cut scenes, pregame,half time and post game stuff some more...you got the foundation finally there..now build upon it with great zeal and enthusiasm ..and this game will only get more fun and exciting.
I still think that "after TD bench" cut scene needs to be mixed up with other cut scenes. I am talking about after the TD..the player that scores the TD is sitting on the bench and players walk by and pat him on the back..i know you are using different camera angles so that is good but you guys cant keep showing that same cut scene after every TD...you gotta replace it some times with a whole different cut scene...other than that..the over all cut scenes are great and are varied nicely...which you guys did well besides that one bench cut scene...other than that the cut scenes look good..i would still like more and hopefully in the full final retail build we will have even more..but i like what i see as-is.
Another problem: The replays start too far into the play.. i think the replay's need to start a bit earlier in the play because some nice moves and jukes i want to seeing the replay are not in the replay because the replay starts after the jukes and nice moves..that is a problem that really should be fixed, guys.
The half time show...NEEDS something more as well!!! I mean seriously...time constraint is no excuse for this half time show we got...just toss up some in depth stat's or something, show big plays from the first half, show players in the locker room being talked to by the coaching staff...have a quick run down of around the league scores,etc...that kind of improvement does not require a whole lot of time and effort. I really would want some commentary audio in there..or a real life type half time show showing guys at the studio's going over scores from other games, big plays from the game,etc...just something to fill us in and give us a few minutes break to sit back and watch...that would bring a huge amount of atmosphere to Madden.
Overall its a fun game and i cant complain and sit here and bash EA for their efforts this year. I am too much of a humbled man to do such a thing because i appreciate their efforts this year and the amount of improvement outweighs the negatives by a far margin. Those that sit here and bash the game.. are you that selfish of a man to do such a thing? Or are you just a spoiled brat that cant appreciate effort and improvement when given? It baffles me to see people say this game sucks, or say its the same old madden,etc...Madden 13 is nothing and i mean NOTHING like any past madden to date when we add up all the improvements done this year...You win some, you lose some
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)
Oh one more thing..two things that "wow'd" me.
I was playing the Giants and the CPU controlled 49er's tossed a pass for about 25 yards and the receiver dove in mid air sideways "not upwards" to catch the ball and he landed on his stomach and slid some yards in mid field on the grass..i just thought that looked TOTALLY AMAZING!!
Another moment in the same game..i "Giants" were up by 7 points and the 49er's were on my 15 yard line few minutes left in the game and Smith tossed the ball into the corner of the end zone and my defensive back broke the tip toe corner catch / pass and after breaking up the pass..he was crossing his arms over and over like "incomplete pass baby!!" and than started pumping his arm up in the air and the crowd was at first ROARING because they thought it was touchdown but than went "ohhhhhhhhhh" after my defender broke up the pass.... AWESOME STUFF!!!!..You win some, you lose some
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