Madden NFL 13 Roster Update Details - Week 2 For Play Now, CCM Gets 53 Man Roster

[Steve_OS]

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https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/status/246274615901577216

Tomorrow's Wk 2 roster update is for Online & Play Now only. The Connected Careers update will be out tomorrow & is for final 53 man rosters

[RGiles36]

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Ogletree's release rating and route run ratings were completely off (almost 20 points).

Meh. Fans of the Cowboys and the media members that cover the team were sour on Ogletree for a reason. He's shown nothing in the previous three years that would suggest his release ratings and route running ratings were completely off -- let alone after 1 week. This coming from an obvious Cowboys fan.

Agreed, but I think there are two main reasons for the swing. One being that the casual gamer just wants to see a ratings boost in response to a big week and would throw a fit if only his confidence or consistency were improved.

You're absolutely right, and I certainly understand that part of it. I just think it sets a bad precedent. What if Ogletree strings together 2 more weeks of stellar performances? He could very well find himself hovering around a 80 at that point. Then let's say he hits the plateau, and starts coming back to earth. All of a sudden he's back into 68-73 range b/c that's what he's shown to be the last few years. Now he has a huge swing back the opposite direction.

I just think that confidence & consistency would better represent the swings in performance rather than manipulating the ratings to reflect one great performance.

But again, you're right in that the average fan wants to see some moving and shaking in accordance to performance. I just don't think it's the most realistic approach.

[callmetaternuts]

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https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...74615901577216

Tomorrow's Wk 2 roster update is for Online & Play Now only. The Connected Careers update will be out tomorrow & is for final 53 man rosters

This seems to indicate that the CCM rosters will always be a week or two behind. Wonder why that is.

[illwill10]

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It is not a big deal, but what was the point of waiting a week to allow to CCM users to use final preseason rosters. Especially when the current rosters will be released on the same day.

[WeBB15]

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Wow, cant even play CCM with the 53 man rosters until week 2! and its not even with the newest rosters! LOL

Please, NFL drop this exclusivity deal. EA is hardly improving every year.

Have you all seen the player career in NBA 2k13, makes Madden look like a sega game... Oh well, at least the physics are nice.

[Find_the_Door]

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Meh. Fans of the Cowboys and the media members that cover the team were sour on Ogletree for a reason. He's shown nothing in the previous three years that would suggest his release ratings and route running ratings were completely off -- let alone after 1 week. This coming from an obvious Cowboys fan.



You're absolutely right, and I certainly understand that part of it. I just think it sets a bad precedent. What if Ogletree strings together 2 more weeks of stellar performances? He could very well find himself hovering around a 80 at that point. Then let's say he hits the plateau, and starts coming back to earth. All of a sudden he's back into 68-73 range b/c that's what he's shown to be the last few years. Now he has a huge swing back the opposite direction.

I just think that confidence & consistency would better represent the swings in performance rather than manipulating the ratings to reflect one great performance.

But again, you're right in that the average fan wants to see some moving and shaking in accordance to performance. I just don't think it's the most realistic approach.

I respectfully disagree when it comes to Ogletree's increase. Ogletree in real life has progressed significantly (through camp and preseason). He showed it against the Super Bowl champs on opening night repeatedly beating them off the jam and embarrassing Corey Webster (94 press) to Ogletree's (54ish release) so in Madden Ogletree would rarely if ever win that matchup of the line of scrimmage.

Ogletree is also a better route runner than Dez is. Here's the increase I requested for Tree which equates to a 74 OVR.


Kevin Ogletree:
Route Running from 65 to 77 (one of the best route runners on the team)
Release from 51 to 79 (is excellent at beating press off the line, repeatedly beat Giants corners off the LOS many times on slants)
Catch from 75 to 78


The 77 Route running makes him a slightly better route runner than Dez

The 79 Release will allow him to win off the LOS once in awhile



So no, no homerism here

Matter of fact here's my entire list that includes a significant downgrade of Felix Jones. Heck I didn't even request Tony to get boosted.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/j8ul5k

I understand what you're saying about traits and I tried to reflect that with Tony by raising his consistency rather than ratings, but last year just about every other team other than Dallas wasn't touched when it came to traits because I was the only one sending them in for my team.

[ramspeedkill]

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https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...74615901577216

Tomorrow's Wk 2 roster update is for Online & Play Now only. The Connected Careers update will be out tomorrow & is for final 53 man rosters

[dpower15]

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I respectfully say you couldn't be more incorrect. Ogletree in real life has progressed significantly (through camp and preseason). He showed it against the Super Bowl champs on opening night repeatedly beating them off the jam and embarrassing Corey Webster (94 press) to Ogletree's (54ish release) so in Madden Ogletree would rarely if ever win that matchup of the line of scrimmage.

Ogletree is also a better route runner than Dez is. Here's the increase I requested for Tree which equates to a 74 OVR.


Kevin Ogletree:
Route Running from 65 to 77 (one of the best route runners on the team)
Release from 51 to 79 (is excellent at beating press off the line, repeatedly beat Giants corners off the LOS many times on slants)
Catch from 75 to 78


The 77 Route running makes him a slightly better route runner than Dez

The 79 Release will allow him to win off the LOS once in awhile



So no, no homerism here

Matter of fact here's my entire list that includes a significant downgrade of Felix Jones. Heck I didn't even request Tony to get boosted.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/j8ul5k

I understand what you're saying about traits and I tried to reflect that with Tony by raising his consistency rather than ratings, but last year just about every other team other than Dallas wasn't touched when it came to traits because I was the only one sending them in for my team.

Even though the ratings boost probably is realistic, I'm just saying I doubt if we would see it as high if he played for a less popular team, that's all.

[Find_the_Door]

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Even though the ratings boost probably is realistic, I'm just saying I doubt if we would see it as high if he played for a less popular team, that's all.

I'd say if someone did it on primetime ON THE ROAD opening night against the superbowl champs beating a #1 corner (Webster) like a drum that they'd get the same treatment regardless. I could say similar things about Bosh being higher than Aldridge, it's a gas!

[RGiles36]

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He showed it against the Super Bowl champs on opening night repeatedly beating them off the jam and embarrassing Corey Webster (94 press) to Ogletree's (54ish release) so in Madden Ogletree would rarely if ever win that matchup of the line of scrimmage.

Not to be trivial or to take the thread off topic, but outside of last week, do you have any other examples? That's my point. You seem to be focusing on last weeks results and some speculation in the preseason. Speculation also said that Dez looked like a better route runner in camp and in the preseason FWIW.

[dpower15]

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I'd say if someone did it on primetime ON THE ROAD opening night against the superbowl champs beating a #1 corner (Webster) like a drum that they'd get the same treatment regardless. I could say similar things about Bosh being higher than Aldridge, it's a gas!

I don't know if they would, usually they would get like +4 or 5, but not 7. Look at Alfred Morris, he had almost 100 yards and 2 TDs against the Saints on the road in his pro debut, he got +4.

Even as a huge Heat fan (for much longer than just the past 2 years), you won't get an argument from me that Bosh should be higher than Aldridge, Aldridge is nasty.

[Find_the_Door]

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Not to be trivial or to take the thread off topic, but outside of last week, do you have any other examples? That's my point. You seem to be focusing on last weeks results and some speculation in the preseason. Speculation also said that Dez looked like a better route runner in camp and in the preseason FWIW.

Nope, sure don't and that only makes sense being that Tree has been buried on the depth chart for three years due to his lack of focus and work ethic. This year that's all changed. Sometimes there are justified increases (DeMarco Murray last year, Miles Austin a few years before, Romo in 06'). I understand what you're saying, use the confidence trait until they prove themselves. The only flaw in that is if a base rating is so far off that it needs changed.

I have a question for you? What does confidence affect? Should Ogletree have amazing hands just because his confidence is boosted, no, as Ogletree is still susceptible to the occasionally dropped ball.

[Find_the_Door]

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I don't know if they would, usually they would get like +4 or 5, but not 7. Look at Alfred Morris, he had almost 100 yards and 2 TDs against the Saints on the road in his pro debut, he got +4.

Even as a huge Heat fan (for much longer than just the past 2 years), you won't get an argument from me that Bosh should be higher than Aldridge, Aldridge is nasty.

Thing is that Alfred Morris doesn't have tremendous speed so you can only increase him so much. I'm sure his speed stayed relatively the same. A perfect example is LeSean McCoy last year, he had a great year but doesn't have power in his runs therefor you can max out his agility and elusiveness but his truck can only go so high? Make sense?

[kc10785]

Forget about Ogletree. I think a couple other players on the team needed a boost

[Find_the_Door]

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Forget about Ogletree. I think a couple other players on the team needed a boost

Bruce Carter IMO needed a big boost but that will come in time. He looked fantastic, hopefully he keeps it up. Block Shed (69) could use a big increase, he shed multiple blocks and stuffed the run on Wednesday.