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  • kzdwfy
    Pro
    • Jun 2003
    • 754

    #91
    Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

    Just some stats if anyone is interested:

    GB (CPU) 27 vs SF(ME) 28 All-Madden Default 9 minute quarters


    Aaron Rodgers - 29/48 266 4 sacks
    J. Nelson 8 -105yds
    G. Jenning 6 - 98yds
    GB Rushing - 27 total rushes!!!!

    BTW, GB was up 24-14 going into the 4th quarter so the pass balanced playbook for GB was about as perfect as I could expect!!!

    So thankful for the find from the OP!!!! Just a little thankful that the title update allowed us to do this...

    Unfortunately this has caused me to have a bad taste in my mouth going further for madden

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    • geisterhome
      MVP
      • Sep 2011
      • 2101

      #92
      Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

      Originally posted by js3512
      Well, everyone start tweeting EA like crazy so hopefully theyll pay attention and address this. IMO, this is the single biggest issue with the game at this point.
      just did lol, lets keep the tweets coming
      Spending time with Jesus!

      -Glad to be an Operation Sports Member!-

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      • D.S.T.X.B.
        Banned
        • Sep 2011
        • 259

        #93
        Wow, this is great stuff. I can't wait to get home and plug this in. Amazing what a few guys with a google search and some dedication can do that EA with unlimited resources can't do.

        Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

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        • rudyjuly2
          Cade Cunningham
          • Aug 2002
          • 14815

          #94
          Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

          Originally posted by geisterhome
          just did lol, lets keep the tweets coming
          I've been tweeting them periodically about this - before and after every patch. I tweeted them again yesterday and they just say, "Thanks for the response! I'll notify the devs. What do you like about the game?" It gets old and annoying.

          Emmdot, the EA rep, said he would get back to us on this issue and has just disappeared. If you are going to come here then be here. Like many companies around here they pop in to promote a game or patch and then disappear. Please just own this problem and make a sincere comment on it.

          As far as the cpu adjusting their game plan, if I target run defense on 1st and 2nd down - they don't do it imo. I've played against teams and come out in a 46 defense with 8 guys in the box on first and second down and they don't audible out of it. The cpu is moronic in Madden 13. The game management AI is the worst I've seen in quite a while.

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          • geisterhome
            MVP
            • Sep 2011
            • 2101

            #95
            Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

            Originally posted by rudyjuly2
            I've been tweeting them periodically about this - before and after every patch. I tweeted them again yesterday and they just say, "Thanks for the response! I'll notify the devs. What do you like about the game?" It gets old and annoying.

            Emmdot, the EA rep, said he would get back to us on this issue and has just disappeared. If you are going to come here then be here. Like many companies around here they pop in to promote a game or patch and then disappear. Please just own this problem and make a sincere comment on it.

            As far as the cpu adjusting their game plan, if I target run defense on 1st and 2nd down - they don't do it imo. I've played against teams and come out in a 46 defense with 8 guys in the box on first and second down and they don't audible out of it. The cpu is moronic in Madden 13. The game management AI is the worst I've seen in quite a while.
            emmdot hasnt been around for a week or so, he actually wrote in some thread here that he was going to answer questions ppl had but he never did and wasnt seen again. i wrote him a message concerning the playcalling issue few days ago. lets see if hell be back.. ill continue sending tweets too.
            Spending time with Jesus!

            -Glad to be an Operation Sports Member!-

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            • DetroitStyle
              Meow
              • May 2011
              • 1045

              #96
              Yea, I was stoked about emmdot's commitment to the community but has suddenly vanished. I'm not at all making it personal but I agree if your going to be here be here.

              On a side note, OP you might want to update the first page to show coaches NAMES not teams. In CCM coaches change quite frequently thus schemes and play books change. So in 3 years of CCM the jets might have lovi smith so you would want to use the generic you assigned to the bears.

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              • tril
                MVP
                • Nov 2004
                • 2913

                #97
                Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                Originally posted by californ14
                And when the CPU is losing it is still running on 1st and 2nd down and even on 3rd and long....That is a problem.....

                I would prefer some support to your assertion that most teams run on 1st n 2nd down.....

                According to the following link for the run/pass ratio in the 2011 NFL season: the pass heavy teams passed ~20% more times than rushed....The middle teams passed ~10% more than rush, and then the bottom teams passed at a pass/run ratio of ~ 50/50......

                Offensive Focus - Run-Pass Ratios For 2011 And The Effect On Your 2012 Draft


                So with the above knowledge, only the bottom few teams should have a pass/run ratio of 50/50 in the game plans.....The others should have a 57/43 pass ratio for the middle teams and a 60/40 pass/run ratio for the pass heavy teams....a top few are even close to 65/35....

                Then with those ratios...the less pass happy teams, or more balanced teams, would have to alternate pass/run on 1st and 2nd down throughout the game, and therefore there would not be a majority of running on 1st and 2nd down....The other teams are definitely throwing more on first and 2nd down situations....
                ok. Im just not seeing that much in my games. again when I start keying in on stopping the run the temas will throw. When they are losing big they will throw on first/ second/ third downs.
                Im just not seeing this being a big issue. at the end of a game if a team runs on me for 30 plays and gets 120+ yards and throws 15 times for 150 yards and win then thats an effective offense. why woudl a team get awya from this.
                I run with the PAtriots and so far 3 temas have been passs heavy.
                The JEts juust put an *** whipping on Me, Sanchez threw for 4 tds, I stopped their run game and he started throwing. Denver and MAnning threw against em alot also.
                IM just noticing that there are Pass hevay teams in this game also.

                Maybe, once I get better at Madden, Ill start noticing these things more, cause I do have trouble stopping th e run and when I do key in on the run , again they start lighting me up through the air.

                This is the first year that IM truely enjoying MAdden in a long time, so I have no complaints. the game has flaws, but has exceeded my expectations.

                I will try this theory in my SF ccm and notice if I see a significant difference.
                Last edited by tril; 10-20-2012, 08:12 AM.

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                • SJHalt621
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 354

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Rawdeal28
                  it was Mcnabb's last couple years where he bonkers with passing the ball. it was ridiculously funny.
                  Funny yes..makes me lose my mind during football season no..lol..
                  "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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                  • SJHalt621
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 354

                    #99
                    Browns would be run heavy..or run balance..
                    "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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                    • agidio3
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 428

                      #100
                      Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                      Originally posted by SJHalt621
                      Browns would be run heavy..or run balance..
                      would they be? so far 129 passes 128 runs? what else would match that?

                      i think run balance prob?

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                      • rudyjuly2
                        Cade Cunningham
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 14815

                        #101
                        Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                        Originally posted by SJHalt621
                        Browns would be run heavy..or run balance..
                        Are you sure? One of the criticisms of Pat Shurmer and his West Coast system is that he hasn't given Trent the ball enough. Trent has never carried the ball as much as 20 times in a game. He has 95 carries in 6 games. I would definitely argue against run heavy and would advocate more of a west coast scheme.

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                        • SJHalt621
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 354

                          #102
                          Originally posted by agidio3
                          would they be? so far 129 passes 128 runs? what else would match that?

                          i think run balance prob?
                          Maybe ur right..I just think they get behind so fast that they to away from wanting to run so much
                          "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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                          • Rawdeal28
                            Swiitch U? lol
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 7407

                            #103
                            Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                            Last night i played week 4 of my raiders franchise against the broncos. I gave them the RunNGun playbook. Peyton was slinging that damn ball all over the field lol. Their first 6-7 plays were all passes. Lots 4 wide and empty backfield sets.

                            Personally i think Green Bay and the Saints should use the that playbook since it seems running the ball is more of an after thought for those teams.

                            in their real games, the Broncos would be more of a balanced offense if they werent falling behind by so much early in games. John Fox loves running the ball.
                            Last edited by Rawdeal28; 10-20-2012, 10:19 AM.
                            "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
                            Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
                            I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
                            yea but will they take psn cards
                            Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

                            lol

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                            • Rawdeal28
                              Swiitch U? lol
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 7407

                              #104
                              Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                              Originally posted by SJHalt621
                              Browns would be run heavy..or run balance..
                              Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                              Are you sure? One of the criticisms of Pat Shurmer and his West Coast system is that he hasn't given Trent the ball enough. Trent has never carried the ball as much as 20 times in a game. He has 95 carries in 6 games. I would definitely argue against run heavy and would advocate more of a west coast scheme.
                              according to the statistics through 6 games, you are correct sir.

                              through 6 games, the Browns on 1st down have passed the ball 94 and rushed 66. on 2nd down they have passed 74 times and rushed 50.

                              http://www.pro-football-reference.co..._offense::none

                              http://www.pro-football-reference.co..._offense::none

                              so i agree the West Coast playbook would be better for them.
                              "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
                              Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
                              I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
                              yea but will they take psn cards
                              Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

                              lol

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                              • SJHalt621
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 354

                                #105
                                I don't disagree with the numbers..it's was just my belief that if T. Richardson was 100%...and they weren't always playing from behind with Rookie QB..but that was just me..question about P Manning..did u see him changing plays at the line in Run and Gun?
                                "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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