Is option run going to ruin 25?

[aspengc8]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

I skimmed the htread but didn't notice, has anyone used the "Commit to QB" pre-snap read? Does it work?

Yes, it does. It makes the EMLOS (or DT if its midline) crash on whomever you chose.

[Colt45]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

If we lived through Mike Vick scrambling out of the pocket on every down in Madden 2002, I think we'll be fine here.

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Lag mostly disappeared when the '13 games came out.

I still lost several games on 13 because of connections issues.

It has improved, but still sucks. Only will do it with friends.

[friscob]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

I was referring to the thread question about the option run, not stopping the spread offense. IMO madden doesnt have the defensive formations designed to funnel spread teams.

Most players will be running the read option out of spread formations. The 2 being utilized together will be very challenging to stop.

[kc10785]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Had to revisit this thread since I had time with this game all weekend. I think the option run is making the game less fun. It's not even the fact people are picking mobile QBs and running but when you see Brady, Payton, Bradford, Matt Ryan and other pocket QBs run the play looking like RG3 then we have a problem. I saw somebody say this in the impression thread and I agree there should be different animations for different type of QBs and put a read option rating on the game.

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[Bat]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Just played a dude, 3 games in a row online. He played mostly all te's in wr spots for the blocking. I won the first 2 games with no real problems. 3rd game he chooses 49ers and rushs for 300 yards with Kaep... He broke off 4+ huge runs. Kaep while rushing even hurt Cam and Earl when being tackled.

Was using the safety to go after and half the time he would be blocked.. and having the DE audible to qb spy or protect the edge didn't do anything.

I am curious to know of ways that stop it.

[aspengc8]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Just played a dude, 3 games in a row online. He played mostly all te's in wr spots for the blocking. I won the first 2 games with no real problems. 3rd game he chooses 49ers and rushs for 300 yards with Kaep... He broke off 4+ huge runs. Kaep while rushing even hurt Cam and Earl when being tackled.

Was using the safety to go after and half the time he would be blocked.. and having the DE audible to qb spy or protect the edge didn't do anything.

I am curious to know of ways that stop it.

My buddy and I labbed defenses vs the read option all weekend. All you have to do is press LT for defensive assignments, and at the bottom is says something like press A option commit QB X option commit RB.

I always pick X option commit RB, and either do one of the following: blitz the nickelback on the 'read' side, manually control SS, walk him down and manual spy, use read side LB and scrape-exchange technique with the DE.

The scrape-exchange works the best.

http://smartfootball.com/defending-spread/defending-the-zone-read-athleticism-and-the-scrape-exchange

[kc10785]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Just played a dude, 3 games in a row online. He played mostly all te's in wr spots for the blocking. I won the first 2 games with no real problems. 3rd game he chooses 49ers and rushs for 300 yards with Kaep... He broke off 4+ huge runs. Kaep while rushing even hurt Cam and Earl when being tackled.

Was using the safety to go after and half the time he would be blocked.. and having the DE audible to qb spy or protect the edge didn't do anything.

I am curious to know of ways that stop it.

Yeah defending read option sucks but over the weekend I have came up with a game plan that can contain the read option or stop it depending on your DE's and Line Backers. The best thing to do is commit to the QB everytime. The big plays always comes from the QB running because it seems the outside blocking is un-shedable. Have your DE play the QB and have at least one person blitzing up the middle they will go after the running back regardless. It wont stop it 100% but it will contain it. Most people online don't have patients and they are not satisfied with 3 yard runs.

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[kc10785]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

My buddy and I labbed defenses vs the read option all weekend. All you have to do is press LT for defensive assignments, and at the bottom is says something like press A option commit QB X option commit RB.

I always pick X option commit RB, and either do one of the following: blitz the nickelback on the 'read' side, manually control SS, walk him down and manual spy, use read side LB and scrape-exchange technique with the DE.

The scrape-exchange works the best.

http://smartfootball.com/defending-s...crape-exchange

I like that idea but if you play a smart player that mix his play book up but gives you the same pre-snap look like The PA Read is going to open all day because you got to many players committing to run. The goal in defending this is containing it without putting your secondary on a island.

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[NDAlum]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

IMO you have to key on the QB. If you key on the HB there are multiple defenders who chase down the HB which completely opens up the field for the QB.

[aspengc8]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

I like that idea but if you play a smart player that mix his play book up but gives you the same pre-snap look like The PA Read is going to open all day because you got to many players committing to run. The goal in defending this is containing it without putting your secondary on a island.

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scrape-exchange isnt necessarily a cover-0, you can have any coverage you want behind it. It's just a technique to give the QB a cloudy read without bringing extra defenders in the box.

[KingV2k3]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Had to revisit this thread since I had time with this game all weekend. I think the option run is making the game less fun. It's not even the fact people are picking mobile QBs and running but when you see Brady, Payton, Bradford, Matt Ryan and other pocket QBs run the play looking like RG3 then we have a problem. I saw somebody say this in the impression thread and I agree there should be different animations for different type of QBs and put a read option rating on the game.

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Are we going to have to assign custom playbooks for the CPU that have the read option plays removed for teams with older / pocket passers like the guys you have mentioned?

Is that possible in CCM this year (prob using two controllers)?

Thanks!

[mojo6911]

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Here is Tony Romo looking like Kap out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQlSX_ej7M

Way overpowered. I run it at the end of the game to mess with my opponent's head.

I skimmed the htread but didn't notice, has anyone used the "Commit to QB" pre-snap read? Does it work?

No, it doesn't. It makes them worse for some reason.

[Datninja619]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

This will be used and abused in Ultimate Team.

I also agree with a few people here. It's better to key the QB. People running the read option in madden are not looking to run with the RB. They would do a simple HB base. Plus you have a chance to injure the QB and make them feel dumb.

[aspengc8]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

This will be used and abused in Ultimate Team.

I also agree with a few people here. It's better to key the QB. People running the read option in madden are not looking to run with the RB. They would do a simple HB base. Plus you have a chance to injure the QB and make them feel dumb.

This is why I commit with the 'option read HB'. I want them to run it with the QB so I can hit him for a loss every time. I played against these types of kids all weekend. Every game was either SF, Panthers, Skins, Hawks or Eagles. I had no problem stopping the RO with the Chiefs.. just usered Eric Berry and forced him to run at me. Yeah, I gave up some yardage, but 0 big plays, 0 TD runs from it and forced a bunch of fumbles and injured QB's.

The RO is used more to catch the D off guard, not really the base for an NFL offense. They aint running vs teenagers anymore.. these are grown men.