Is option run going to ruin 25?

[ghettogeeksta]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

The problem is that the offensive line is over powered and the lack of play recognition a.i. Theirs no way to really stop it if you really know how to use it because the oline is so over powered. If the DE plays the Qb and they hand it off the running back, the running back is guaranteed to get 5-10 yards. The problem with this game is that it's not balanced, offense way over powdered.

[friscob]

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This is why I commit with the 'option read HB'. I want them to run it with the QB so I can hit him for a loss every time. I played against these types of kids all weekend. Every game was either SF, Panthers, Skins, Hawks or Eagles. I had no problem stopping the RO with the Chiefs.. just usered Eric Berry and forced him to run at me. Yeah, I gave up some yardage, but 0 big plays, 0 TD runs from it and forced a bunch of fumbles and injured QB's.

The RO is used more to catch the D off guard, not really the base for an NFL offense. They aint running vs teenagers anymore.. these are grown men.

Yea it was a nightmare to stop in NCAA b/c there were barely any fumbles or injuries that ever took place. Shouldn't be that big of a problem in Madden

[XXstormmXX]

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Online? Absolutely. That's why I never play online. People create unstoppable "money plays" and run them the whole game, making unstoppable schemes.

[friscob]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Online? Absolutely. That's why I never play online. People create unstoppable "money plays" and run them the whole game, making unstoppable schemes.

the absence of sliders ruins online football games

[Hooe]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

I think the biggest problem with the option defense in both Madden and NCAA - and what then causes the most frustration thus far - is that the AI as far as I know will not attempt to run the scrape exchange concept by itself; the user must control the defender who will account for the quarterback.

[StL_RamZ]

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Unstoppable. Lost the last game of the season to my brother (seahawks)and he just did the same read option play from the 2Q till the last play of the game. Couldn't stop it.

He couldn't stop it when I was the eagles/redskins

We officially banned read options.

[friscob]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

I think the biggest problem with the option defense in both Madden and NCAA - and what then causes the most frustration thus far - is that the AI as far as I know will not attempt to run the scrape exchange concept by itself; the user must control the defender who will account for the quarterback.

Agree. Reads are too easy also, especially from the shotgun. Game would play better if they made it more difficult to read the DE's action so there is a realistic chance of getting tackled for a 5 yard loss every time you run the R/O.

[Hiro1]

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Im going to have to side with the guys saying you have to gameplan to stop the option, from moving guys at the last second to confuse your opponent on which guy to read to focusing your defender on the QB or HB and attacking the opposite manually. Is it a little difficult to stop? Yes, to the uninitiated, but Ncaa guys are initiated(lol).

Seriously when I discovered you can designate to crash on HB or stay with QB I was floored. This has never been a feature in Ncaa. I think injuries are a big reason this wont be as effective as some believe especially in franchise mode. Risking losing your starting Qb will be an huge deterrent. Running Qbs wont last long.

Heck I was playing a guy last night spamming no huddle Adrian Peterson runs until a 2nd quarter tackle put him out of the game.

I hope they don't touch the read option. There are plenty of tools and adjustments to stop it.(many suggested in this very own thread).

It kills me they juiced linemen awareness because some were complaining instead of using slide protection. Now I overload blitz to the right only to watch the LT sprint 8 yards to the right to pick up a blitz. SMH

[NDAlum]

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You hope they don't touch the read option? Man oh man do we have different views!

The way my high AWR get faked out by a fake handoff is crazy. They chase the guy without the ball way too long. Ok if they took a couple false steps fine by me. You would at least need a fast WB to beat them to the edge. It is just overly effective at making defenders remove themselves from the play.

In my opinion


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[Find_the_Door]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Im going to have to side with the guys saying you have to gameplan to stop the option, from moving guys at the last second to confuse your opponent on which guy to read to focusing your defender on the QB or HB and attacking the opposite manually. Is it a little difficult to stop? Yes, to the uninitiated, but Ncaa guys are initiated(lol).

Seriously when I discovered you can designate to crash on HB or stay with QB I was floored. This has never been a feature in Ncaa. I think injuries are a big reason this wont be as effective as some believe especially in franchise mode. Risking losing your starting Qb will be an huge deterrent. Running Qbs wont last long.

Heck I was playing a guy last night spamming no huddle Adrian Peterson runs until a 2nd quarter tackle put him out of the game.

I hope they don't touch the read option. There are plenty of tools and adjustments to stop it.(many suggested in this very own thread).

It kills me they juiced linemen awareness because some were complaining instead of using slide protection. Now I overload blitz to the right only to watch the LT sprint 8 yards to the right to pick up a blitz. SMH

That feature has always been in NCAA?

It's in your game planning (where you set things to agressive, conservative, or balanced). There's one where you selected play the QB (agressive) or play the RB (Conservative) or leave it balanced to let the game decide.

Always been in.

[Hiro1]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

That feature has always been in NCAA?

It's in your game planning (where you set things to agressive, conservative, or balanced). There's one where you selected play the QB (agressive) or play the RB (Conservative) or leave it balanced to let the game decide.

Always been in.

They are similar but are definitely not the same. Ncaa's dictates if you want to focus on pitch man or QB. In madden you can dictate if your DE crashes on The RB or stays with the qb. At least this is how Its worked for me.

[SteelerSpartan]

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It really ticks me off that they didn't give the Defense any new animations to combat what they gave to the offense. Its so freaking typical of them to do this. We've seen this all gen long with their gameplay balance

There should have been just as many push and break through animations for the D-Line that would allow the D to blow up running plays if they had the ratings.

The few(And I mean few like in 2 or 3) of those breakthrough animations there are, take too long to play out and the runner can easily run around them.

So that puts tons more AI responsibility on the LBs/CBs/Safeties to react fast enough and fill the right gaps.

And to top it all off the user run blocking slider is woefully ineffective

[PGaither84]

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The "stick skills" debate really can be sumed up like this:

In Madden, you can wiggle and avoid a defender, or use the juke move and defenders will randomly be forced to fall down, or use the spin move to change directions and the defender won't break down to make the tackle.

In All Pro Football 2k8, if you wiggle, the defenders keep true to their pursuit lanes and will break down and tackle you. The same thing if you spin or juke. Those moves can be effective, but it is because of realsitic positioning and momentum.

In Madden, I have had plays for and against me where 3 defenders in pursuit all were locked into the slip and fall down animation because the running back used a juke.

There are certain stick skills, but they are also vastly overrated. Madden, even with custom sliders that I like to use, is still tuned to be a casual game of football. Go ahead and pretend you are some football god because you can play Madden well, but I bet most of the stick skill freaks don't know the first thing about real football, or care.

[friscob]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

In Madden, I have had plays for and against me where 3 defenders in pursuit all were locked into the slip and fall down animation because the running back used a juke.

Imo if you're trying to play a somewhat "sim" game then the modifier shouldn't be used. It makes defenders behave very oddly

[Find_the_Door]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Well just played a 49ers user that jumped out to a quick 21-nothin' lead due in part to his no-huddle abuse of the read option. I couldn't do a thing to stop it. He ended up going up 31-nothin' before I just conceded...

"Is option run going to ruin 25?"


.... it already has.... the scary part is that this is just opening day... imagine the cheese three months from now....