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  • BrianU
    MVP
    • Nov 2008
    • 1565

    #1

    Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

    I thought changing the schemes would change the players OVR in franchise mode menu but I am not seeing it. Is it broken? I understand it only changes the apperance of the OVR and does not change the players attributes, however after changing schemes from the Team screen I am not seeing OVR change anywhere.

    I am the NY Jets. I go to the Team tab, then Strategy. Schemes. We are listed as Offense: West Coast and QB1: West Coast. With this setup on the depth chart Sanchez is rated a 73. Same on the Roster screen. When I go to the Lions depth chart Stafford is rated an 80 and his backups S. Hill is a 71 and K. Moore is a 70. If I go to the Trade Center and pick the Lions they have the same ratings there. In the Free Agents screen Colt McCoy is rated a 74.

    Now I go back to the Team tab, then Strategy, Schemes and change Offense: to Vertical Offense and QB1 to Strong Arm. I go back and check all of the above ratings. They are the exact same. Sanchez is still a 73, Stafford an 80 his backs 71 and 70 on both the Lions depth chart and the Trade screens. McCoy is still a 74.

    My interpretation was that changing the schemes would change the OVR showing which players better fit into your scheme. It appears to not change anything in the franchise menu. Do I have to advance the week? Does it only change once per season? What am I doing wrong?

    EDIT: This is Owner mode just in case that matters.
    Last edited by BrianU; 09-02-2013, 10:00 AM.
  • slipknottin
    Rookie
    • Dec 2010
    • 71

    #2
    Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

    Nobody seems to really understand it at this point.

    If you go into a game and look at the depth charts the ratings are all different there too.

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    • madnaiss
      Rookie
      • Oct 2011
      • 81

      #3
      Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

      you have to advance the week

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      • friscob
        Rookie
        • Jun 2013
        • 0

        #4
        Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

        While doing a fantasy draft w/ my roommate every time we switched who was drafting the players switched overalls b/c of our respective schemes. Haven't had any problems w/ this at all
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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          • Dec 2006
          • 17294

          #5
          Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

          It seems to me that you only see your scheme's overalls if you go into a game.

          For example, Bucs FB Erik Lorig is listed as a 51 overall even though he's a good blocker and my scheme favors a blocking fullback. But then I go into a game and he's suddenly an 85 overall.
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          • JaymeeAwesome
            Dynasty Guru
            • Jan 2005
            • 4152

            #6
            Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

            Originally posted by madnaiss
            you have to advance the week
            Can anyone confirm this?
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            • BrianU
              MVP
              • Nov 2008
              • 1565

              #7
              Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

              Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
              It seems to me that you only see your scheme's overalls if you go into a game.

              For example, Bucs FB Erik Lorig is listed as a 51 overall even though he's a good blocker and my scheme favors a blocking fullback. But then I go into a game and he's suddenly an 85 overall.
              I think this might be the case.. Sanchez is a 73 ingame still but Geno Smith dropped from a 77 to a 73.

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              • BrianU
                MVP
                • Nov 2008
                • 1565

                #8
                Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

                Originally posted by madnaiss
                you have to advance the week
                I am gonna try this after my game. Either this is the case or it only shows ingame like the guy above said.

                I am pretty sure they designed it to show different overalls in the franchise menus.. that is the entire point of changing schemes. If the overalls in franchise menus never change what the hell is the point..

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                • ImReady77
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 370

                  #9
                  Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

                  For some reason the overall changes during an online ccm but it doesn't change for the offline ccm.

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                  • patsfan188
                    Rookie
                    • May 2010
                    • 91

                    #10
                    Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

                    Originally posted by jaymee13
                    Can anyone confirm this?
                    Didn't work for me. It's probably an issue like last year, where it will work in online but not offline. I'll try online in a bit and see.
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                    • MuchToLearn
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 483

                      #11
                      Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

                      Originally posted by BrianU
                      I thought changing the schemes would change the players OVR in franchise mode menu but I am not seeing it. Is it broken? I understand it only changes the apperance of the OVR and does not change the players attributes, however after changing schemes from the Team screen I am not seeing OVR change anywhere.

                      I am the NY Jets. I go to the Team tab, then Strategy. Schemes. We are listed as Offense: West Coast and QB1: West Coast. With this setup on the depth chart Sanchez is rated a 73. Same on the Roster screen. When I go to the Lions depth chart Stafford is rated an 80 and his backups S. Hill is a 71 and K. Moore is a 70. If I go to the Trade Center and pick the Lions they have the same ratings there. In the Free Agents screen Colt McCoy is rated a 74.

                      Now I go back to the Team tab, then Strategy, Schemes and change Offense: to Vertical Offense and QB1 to Strong Arm. I go back and check all of the above ratings. They are the exact same. Sanchez is still a 73, Stafford an 80 his backs 71 and 70 on both the Lions depth chart and the Trade screens. McCoy is still a 74.

                      My interpretation was that changing the schemes would change the OVR showing which players better fit into your scheme. It appears to not change anything in the franchise menu. Do I have to advance the week? Does it only change once per season? What am I doing wrong?

                      EDIT: This is Owner mode just in case that matters.
                      it works and it's all dependent on what your preference SCHEME is as a coach..

                      for example and i am glad you're the jets to make this easier. you have 2 HB's. Woodson and Ivory. Woodson is a speed back, Ivory is a bruiser..

                      if you go change your SCHEME to prefer POWER backs you'll see this reflected in your depth chart as Ivory now has the much higher OVR than Woodson

                      it won't change their individual attributes but their OVR changes depending on which player suits your scheme better..

                      hope that helps!
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                      • BrianU
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1565

                        #12
                        Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

                        Originally posted by ImReady77
                        For some reason the overall changes during an online ccm but it doesn't change for the offline ccm.
                        Okay, so that's it then. Oh wells hope they patch it.

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                        • SaylaB
                          Rookie
                          • May 2012
                          • 158

                          #13
                          Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

                          I didn't check the rating changes, but I know for a fact that the preferred player scheme doesn't change based on playbook... I started an online franchise with Tampa, who is a 4-3 team, so they only have MLB 1 listed as a player. Changed them to a 3-4 and have advanced several weeks, and it still only shows MLB 1. No MLB 2.

                          Not a dealbreaker or anything, just adding in what I'm seeing.

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                          • Tweeg
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1414

                            #14
                            Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

                            Changing schemes will only recalculate overall when you are playing CFM as a coach.

                            If you are playing as an owner, changing schemes doesn't do anything. It needs fixed.
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                            • Rezzo503
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 111

                              #15
                              Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

                              So Offline or Online doesn't matter? Its playing as an Owner?

                              And your saying being a coach works both offline and online?

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