Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

[DallasRocks]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

They need to patch this as it is very annoying to not know the actual overall of a player, also if I progress a player I cannot see his upgraded OVR until I am in a game and check the depth chart, wtf

[patsfan188]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

Online owner works for changing overalls, but not offline owner. Haven't tried offline coach, but the previous poster says that works.

[Tweeg]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

So Offline or Online doesn't matter? Its playing as an Owner?

And your saying being a coach works both offline and online?

Offline coach definitely works. I don't have a gold subscription so I haven't been able to try any online career

[stormchaserck19]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

So you're saying that coach mode doesn't contain all these bugs discussed? Do you know if the bug where Mike Vick, Matt Stafford, and Carson Palmer disappear after season 1 is fine in coach mode?

[Tweeg]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

So you're saying that coach mode doesn't contain all these bugs discussed? Do you know if the bug where Mike Vick, Matt Stafford, and Carson Palmer disappear after season 1 is fine in coach mode?

I'm in the third year of simming a test Owner career. Vick retired after year 2 and Stafford is still QB for the Lions. Palmer may have retired, but I wasn't really paying attention.

[BrianU]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

So I tried some more things out and it appears changing scheme has no affect on the overalls listed in the Depth Chart, Free Agency or Trade areas. I changed from West Coast to Vertical Offense as well as QB1 from West Coast to Strong Arm, advanced the week and checked again. No changes except 1 point difference to my QBs but I assume that is some sort of player progression not a result of the scheme change. The other areas the ratings were the same FA and Trading.

I tested in offline owner mode as the Jets. Anyone else seeing this... changing offense/defense as well as player schemes not affect the Overall ratings? I thought it was supposed to so you could see what players better fit your team?

[JaymeeAwesome]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

So I tried some more things out and it appears changing scheme has no affect on the overalls listed in the Depth Chart, Free Agency or Trade areas. I changed from West Coast to Vertical Offense as well as QB1 from West Coast to Strong Arm, advanced the week and checked again. No changes except 1 point difference to my QBs but I assume that is some sort of player progression not a result of the scheme change. The other areas the ratings were the same FA and Trading.

I tested in offline owner mode as the Jets. Anyone else seeing this... changing offense/defense as well as player schemes not affect the Overall ratings? I thought it was supposed to so you could see what players better fit your team?

Can you do those same tests as a Coach instead of owner and let us know. The more confirmations the better.

[timhere1970]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

I think this might be the case.. Sanchez is a 73 ingame still but Geno Smith dropped from a 77 to a 73.

The in game ratings i believe have production and cold/hot streaks factored in. I had a dt that was rated a 72. I put him in as my number 2 dt in a 4-3. He tore it up. Ended up with 18 sacks in less than a full season, mostly simming games. His rating kept going up and was at 89 at seasons end. He got a crap load of xp. At the begining of the next year he was back down to a 78. Therefore, I have concluded that the ratings go up because they are on a hot streak and are producing for the team, but they are not permanent. His ratings went up in the depth chart and roster menus also, but not as much.

[Nate.Walton1]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

I also noticed that player specific schemes matter more than the defensive or offensive scheme. I didn't realize this, I had 4 DT's that were all 4-3 tackles. I was running a Base 4-3 and they all had 50 or below for size, thus ruining their OVR numbers. It was VERY misleading. I thought that I desperately needed to draft TWO STUD DT's to run the 4-3.
However, I realized that my top 2 DT's were run stoppers, I changed the specific position to Run Stopper under DT and they shot up to mid 80's!
I knew that this would have some impact, but TWENTY OVR!? Wow...
So now I know that the defensive or offensive scheme doesn't matter as much as the POSITIONAL scheme. Just thought I'd pass that along in case it helps someone!

[DerekHupp]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

I wish you had the option to just turn this garbage off

I personally would pay an extra 10$ to EA if they gave me a madden with no schemes in CFM

[kpkpkp]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

I wish you had the option to just turn this garbage off

I personally would pay an extra 10$ to EA if they gave me a madden with no schemes in CFM

This is exactly how I feel.

[DerekHupp]

Re: Can someone explain the OVR change resulting from changing schemes?

And to further my point i never paid much attention to OVR ratings anyhow, they can be very misleading. and the schemes now make them EVEN more misleading than they already were imo

to me coaching schemes are just a huge waste of dev time and drive space, give us formation subs back or combine times, something actually usefull :P