Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

[TeeDogg]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

I feel you, but this still looks so much better than what we've been shown lately.

Look at the way RGIII is calling out signals, never been in current gen.

The drop back is much slower and smooth, not in current gen or the footage.

The way he scans the field, definitely not in either we've seen so far.

How smoothly he transitions from pocket stance to the escape run. Again not seen.

The Lynch Juke, the way AP carries a couple ball carriers. All of this stuff was fresh and new and had me excited. While it doesn't look 100% real, it looked alot better than what we've been getting in motion. That's the stuff I was hoping to see around this time. That's the game I would've purchased for my PS4. I haven't seen any of that stuff in any of the footage that has recently been released. There's still more to be shown, but I haven't seen that stuff since E3.

You are right. Ive been enjoying M25 and have hopes for next gen, but EA is making hard for guys that are giving them a chance to have faith. I'm not sure what's going on with the ESPN bids but they should either stop or get them a better version of the game. Because its NOT what we've been lead to believe next gen was going to be. To me it animates worse than current gen.

I'm still holding out for some official game play. That's my only hope lol

[ch46647]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Honestly, this looks even worse then I thought. This looks like a mirror image of Madden on current-gen. Personally, I dont really see any difference whatsoever.

Just such a huge dissapointment over the last 8 years, and looks to be another 8-9 years of the same.

It appears that when EA talked about "learning from previous mistakes" they were simply talking about not having a full-featured game in 06'. Clearly the focus was to release this game with all the features ported over from this generation, with no intention to fix the broken code or give us all a new "fresh" gameplay experience.

These...guys...just...dont....get... it.......

[Dogslax41]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

You are right. Ive been enjoying M25 and have hopes for next gen, but EA is making hard for guys that are giving them a chance to have faith. I'm not sure what's going on with the ESPN bids but they should either stop or get them a better version of the game. Because its NOT what we've been lead to believe next gen was going to be. To me it animates worse than current gen.

I'm still holding out for some official game play. That's my only hope lol

True step is supposed to be out this week I thought. But given how they are pulling marketing material I don't know that we can expect them to stick to the schedule they originally discussed. They were supposed to release a video each Monday night but that didn't happen last week and after another disaster this week I would imagine we have seen our last Monday night video.

[jenglund]

Those running animations still don't look right. What is it? It's like there's no shoulder-shifting or something. The players look so stiff.

And I think they've been reusing the same QB throwing animations since PS2. Again, can't really put my finger on it, but it just doesn't look like how QBs throw.

[ixTOPDAWGxi]

Not impressed at all. Looks just like current-gen, other than a tiny, tiny graphics jump.

I feel you man. A lot of people expected that, but you have to think about it. The only reason why Madden 06 and other XBOX 360/PS3 games looked a whole lot better than the XBOX/PS2 was because we was moving from STANDARD DEFINITION to HIGH DEFINITION. Now we're moving from HIGH DEFINITION to HIGH DEFINITION. LOL The only thing now that set us apart is the graphics card. The graphics card is better than current gen systems. Don't worry Madden & other games in the future will look better than what will be released the first, maybe second year of the PS4/XBOX ONE launch. The madden team is an annual developing squad. They put out games every year. Their games is not going to look better than another company games like Naughty Dog, Ubisoft, or Square Enix. Just look at Infinity Ward's Call Of Duty Ghost. The Next Gen gameplay doesn't look too different from the current gen versions of the game. Even within EA, TITANFALL will look better because they had a team from the start that was fully dedicated to TITANFALL without going from one game project straight to another. So if you're looking for "OMG Graphics" for Madden, you're gonna have to give it some years.

[dghustla]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

I could be wrong but didn't they bring in that o-line guy a couple of years ago? I forget his name but they started putting him in videos and saying "we have an actual olineman here blah blah blah". Not to knock your post but if hes the same guy, hes been helping them for awhile without much changing.

I thought he was brought in for madden 13. but they specially talked about him having a larger role moving forward. I don't take it as a knock. I'm saying that we will know if this team is capable of taking first hand knowledge and putting it into their games correctly. I enjoyed NCAA and Madden as they are. I understand many have not. I thought it was ridiculously that up until this year the OLine did not have a sophisticated targeting system and Olinemen were not seeking out blocks at the second level. Now that may seem like common football sense. But i honestly don't know if anyone on the dev team played organized football beyond the pee-wee, pop warner level.

In the videos from the brief angles available. The DL and OL interactions look much improved. In the 2 MNF videos we've seen Lamar Miller and Trent Richardson cut outside on their TD runs. But because of the angles they are presented at, we can not see why they are bouncing the run to the outside. If they can take the knowledge from a former pro lineman to enhance that area of the game. I will say there is so hope. If they can't take his information and create functioning realistic interactions in the trenches then expect to see the same 6.5,7/10 game that has been produced this generations.

[kenlovin]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

wow, that looks pretty terrible tbh honest. Hate to pile on but the robotic drop backs were rancid. The catching animations were better though. Why do those cutscenes that we have seen previously look so good but yet this looks terrible. I rmr the first video I saw said 'real gameplay footage' and though ok, that looks nice. This looks terrible, absolutely terrible.

[TalenT]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

This is what we want!!!



AND

God bless that is beautiful football. I had forgotten what it looked like in the video game world. They should've just stolen this footage! It would've resulted in less of backlash. Lol

[xnate128x]

I tend to be a glass half full person in general. To me, it comes down to when I put the controller in my hand, will it feel like a new experience or the same gameplay and AI. IF the gameplay and AI is improved quite a bit, that's what I'm wanting. I never expected drastic improvements in presentation besides the crowd and sidelines, maybe some commentary. I was 99.9% sure the presentation would pretty much be the same, it takes more than one dev cycle to implement new presentation elements like studio half time and post game shows. I think NCAA said they worked on their half time show for two years.

Okay I'm sorry but, did you really just say it took them two years to create that complete crap shoot of a halftime show into NCAA? Haha wow..... I myself didn't even consider it to be a halftime show at all. This explains a lot. Lol thanks..... It alllllllllll makes sense now. This is one point of information that proves to us on why EA is incapable of creating a great looking and intuitive football game gameplay wise. I'm not day ng they don't work their butts off over there, but my god I wish they would put more time into gameplay and presentation. I have zero hope for the future of Madden. No more excuses. If they don't give us a great game presentation and gameplay wise in 'two years', then the game will never get better and go in the direction us consumers want it to go. I used to be like you jp, I really did. I gave everyone a chance, and I had a massive amount of optimism with everything. Unfortunately, none of that means zilch when everyone else makes everything hell on a platter. This is what EA Tiburon has been doing to us for years. I guess you'll get it eventually......

[wordtobigbird]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

In the videos from the brief angles available. The DL and OL interactions look much improved. In the 2 MNF videos we've seen Lamar Miller and Trent Richardson cut outside on their TD runs. But because of the angles they are presented at, we can not see why they are bouncing the run to the outside. If they can take the knowledge from a former pro lineman to enhance that area of the game. I will say there is so hope. If they can't take his information and create functioning realistic interactions in the trenches then expect to see the same 6.5,7/10 game that has been produced this generations.

Could you point out what's much improved?

I agree with you that there is hope if madden can improve the AI. The biggest issue to me personally is the AI. I enjoyed M13 and M25 at times with their wack animations. But what KILLS the game for me is the AI of the players. So, I'm with you, if they can transfer knowledge from former players into AI, there is some hope. I don't have any faith in them doing that though based off what the devs have said. They say it takes so long to even add in presentation/graphical/accessory changes, I can't imagine they would revamp the AI in that same cycle. They JUST started getting lead blockers to stop running past the 1st and 2nd defender.. I don't expect them to add in gap assignments or true blocking schemes. I would LOVE to have to call out the Mike in order to pick up the blitz.. Doubt I ever will.

[bestout51683]

This looks like the first madden that came out on the xbox 360 SMH. River's pads look to big and so do Luck's. Look at how Trent Richardson is running. That is horrible. The worst part about it is these may even be cut scenes so could you imagine actual gameplay. SMH EA. I can't stand madden every year but I always buy it SMH.

[guaps]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

This is what we want!!!

It's a real shame that we are comparing next-gen Madden with a six year old game, but they were doing things that Madden still can't...

After seeing the last couple of videos from EA, I don't expect next-gen Madden sidelines to look nearly as good at this.

[wyoming]

I can't believe EA put this crap out for us to see. Because of that video i will not be purchasing either the XBOX1 or the PS4. Next Gen. my ***. Cut it out with the silly marketing tactics SONY/MICROSOFT. looking at the videos looks just like what we the gamers are playing now on the Xbox/ PS3 consoles. You guys are selling gimmics with things like(watching another gamer playing a game). If I turn on my console I don't want to see other gamers play hell I want play my damn self.

[wordtobigbird]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

It's a real shame that we are comparing next-gen Madden with a six year old game, but they were doing things that Madden still can't...

Thank you for this. Madden advertising interactive sidelines for next-gen. As somoone who didn't play APF (I need my NFL teams lol) If I don't see THIS then they were just lying to us. No excuses.

[COACH WEBB]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

SMH. The running animations are still bad. Man I thought we would see leaps and bounds from one generation to the next with this franchise. I guess not. Or do we have to wait for the dreaded 3 year process? Need to see more gameplay and play before I make a final decision, but I'm really "meh" at this point.