To me what it means to be an arcade game would specifically relate to unrealistic statistics. In Tecmo Super Bowl you could throw for 100 yard bombs, rush for 300 yards, and get 10 sacks in one game. It was so competitive and fun but definitely not a simulation. I hope 2K takes the NES Tecmo Super Bowl engine and updates it in the best ways possible. I would be first in line to play this competivley online. Please 2K make it happen. What do you think makes a game arcade versus simulation.
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I think you nailed it. Based on something real, but obviously not an accurate representation.
I'd argue Madden is arcade after a guy won the Madden Bowl without throwing a pass.
.. I think NBA Jam is the mother of sports arcade games. If 2k can manage to roll out something like that, I'd be beyond thrilled. Not sure how to make that work though? 7-on-7? No RB? I can't see the licensing agreement allowing them to produce anything close to what Tecmo is/was.You want free speech?
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It most certainly is an arcade game and the best ever doing it for the NFL.
I consider RBI Baseball 3 (NES) and Baseball Stars (NES) the best arcade versions for baseball.
What all these games had was amazingly addictive gameplay (I still play these titles from time to time on my original NES) but also season mode with statistics to go over and have fun with. Baseball Stars was ahead of it’s time for sure.
If 2K can make and NFL game like Tecmo Super Bowl I will be thrilled.
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Re: Is Tecmo Super Bowl not considered arcade?
I agree with all of you, and I'll be the hockey voice in the room to say NHL Hitz Pro is the greatest arcade hockey game of all-time, and the series as a whole is the greatest NHL arcade series of all-time.
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Also, how does the NFL allow 'Retro Bowl' on iOS? It is 11-11 with real teams, and semi-realistic player abilities!Comment
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Re: Is Tecmo Super Bowl not considered arcade?
I personally would consider Tecmo Super Bowl an arcade game, evaluated by its exaggerated 2D art style and its extremely streamlined football gameplay mechanics (everything from how to throw passes to the extremely limited scope of the playbooks), especially when compared to games we would widely agree are more ********* of the "simulation" label such as Madden, NFL 2K, NFL Gameday, or NFL Quarterback Club.
It is worth noting, however, that my opinion means literally squat as to whether any component of Tecmo Super Bowl fails the criteria for "non-simulation" as defined in the contracts between 2K and the NFL / NFLPA, lol.
Retro Bowl doesn't license the intellectual property of the NFL or NFLPA, nor does it directly infringe on the IP rights held by the NFL or NFLPA. Retro Bowl doesn't contain any NFL team IP (specifically it doesn't contain verbatim registered trademarks such as "Dallas Cowboys", nor does it contain any team logos or word marks; meanwhile, city names and color combinations are generally not protected as IP), and all the player names are randomly generated. As long as the developers of Retro Bowl do not violate the IP rights of the NFL or NFLPA, they can do whatever they want.
As a side note: I'm not a lawyer so please don't take this as gospel, but my current understanding of name-image-likeness intellectual law is that a video game can include publicly available data about a player such as his name / height / weight / stats without a license as long as the game makes no attempt is made to represent said player's likeness. There were a few lawsuits involving fantasy football and fantasy baseball web sites about this matter.Last edited by Hooe; 08-02-2020, 09:17 PM.Comment
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Re: Is Tecmo Super Bowl not considered arcade?
Retro bowl is a mobile game and EAs exclusive doesn’t cover mobiles. I always thought 2k might someday take advantage of this by releasing a NFL2k on mobile. But they never did.
“The exclusivity in EA’s agreements applies only to simulation titles; the contract language says that “arcade-style games, youth games, and casual/mobile games” are open to anyone. “
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Interesting point. I could see NFL2k using the Tecmo Bowl engine, expanding the number of players on the field to 11 on 11, increasing the size of the field scale-wise, and having sacks per game along with the yards per play in the passing game more in line to what you see in real life football. The graphics could all be updated. The question would be if the appearance of the players themselves make the game be considered non-simulation?Comment
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Tecmo Bowl and Super Tecmo Bowl are arcade games, but when you have a games like these that stand this test of time and can be held beside the Maddens of this console generaton ... then that speaks for itself. Video games are suppose to be 'FUN' and not give you a headache or upset playing them...EA somehow does both of those and playing Tecmo Bowl doesnt...Comment
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Nothing til this day matches the fun and competitiveness I get when playing Tecmo Super Bowl against another human opponent. I agree about standing the test of time! Imagine this game with updated graphics and animations, I would be in football gaming heaven.Comment
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