Anthony Chau of 2K sports interview more or less confirms a 2K Football game in 2007!

[DaveDQ]

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I just want official word from 2K Sports, so we can move onto the debates about what custom features NEED to be included and how it will NEVER match the hype and expectations, etc.

That's a whole other layer to this would be game that I think will be great for discussion. It's probably why OS is so great.

When this game is announced, we can then go from speculation to wondering exactly what this game will do. Nevertheless, the folks at 2K are going to be probed when this game comes out.

Like Spank mentioned, it's a shame people are excited because the game will sort of poke Madden and get their development team in gear. However, that just shows us that many feel 2K is superior. People weren't expecting Blitz: The League to keep Madden on their toes, were they?

For obvious reason, 2K will be expected to deliver something special, and that's mainly because they have a history of doing so.

[Steve_OS]

Re: Anthony Chau of 2K sports interview more or less confirms a 2K Football game in 2

When did Chau get so chatty? lol

From what I remember, it was almost like pulling teeth to get him to say something that wasn't already in some generic feature list or an upcoming "Football Friday". He's a good guy, but this is clearly a strategic interview by the VC camp. That pretty much means what was already said... if OS interviewed AC they'd get the same answers. It also means what I'm sure some of us already knew... they are working on a football game.

Most importantly it also says something else that most of us already knew... we have no idea when it will be coming out.

Exactly. I talk to Chau pretty often, he's not giving me any info. But I should see a beta next month. I keed, I keed.

[faster]

Re: Anthony Chau of 2K sports interview more or less confirms a 2K Football game in 2

Exactly. I talk to Chau pretty often, he's not giving me any info. But I should see a beta next month. I keed, I keed.

You realize that there are people that will go out and drink just because you mentioned that jokingly, right?

[jrivera34]

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it will NEVER match the hype and expectations, etc.

2K really needs to be careful here because I think you hit the nail on the head. We are all expecting the impossible. A glitch free, totally customizable game, that is close to perfect.

[VCdolphin]

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2K really needs to be careful here because I think you hit the nail on the head. We are all expecting the impossible. A glitch free, totally customizable game, that is close to perfect.

Oh, there will be much complaining and carrying on. I'd rather HAVE a game to complain about, then complain about NOT having a game at all.

Other than Winning Eleven, I think 2K Sports/VC is breaking new ground here with a customizable game. There are bound to be some things left out that will irritate some. Hopefully just detail stuff, like no giant ketchup bottle in Pittsburgh, versus serious gameplay issues.

They need to get the gameplay down first, then worry about adding various custom features. I could live with generic stadiums, coaches, even without a franchise mode and such. Just let me customize player faces, equipment, names, numbers and adjust stats. Let me choose a league size (anywhere from 8 to 40 team leagues for example) choose the cities/location for each team, team colors/uniforms (plus alternates), and a team name.

Gameplay issues like choosing a defense type (4-3 or 3-4?) playbook and a basic offensive style (running team, short passing, deep passing, balanced) playbook are important.

Online play, with custom leagues. Madden has never, ever come close to what 2K5 did for online play.

If they can squeeze in things like the VIP and custom sound clips from 2K5 that would be great.

Things like choosing rule options (pro versus college for example) given how much testing would need to be done to get it right, I won't expect at all, not for the first version of Legends anyway.

If successful, then 2K can add more custom options for the next version of the game (new version every TWO years) and gamers will have a long, long list of things I'm sure.

I love the idea of them being able to add things the NFL would NEVER allow, like the throat slash, late hits, and player drug/steriod use. Draft that stud WR that tested positive for weed? Sign that free agent OLB who just served a 4 game suspension last year for steroids?

I'm not sure you could create a game that'll do more for sports forums! Just debating player ratings (Staubach or Bradshaw?) would go on for months, if not years.

It won't be a perfect game, but it could be filled with great, new experiences for football gamers.

[DaveDQ]

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I think something to remember is that it's not like when EA got the NFL license, they also got 2K's development rights. They have a pretty solid game in 2K5 to work with and then what they've done with the NBA side of things also shows us they can deliver.

I'm pretty excited to see what this game will be like. For one thing, we know it'll be running at 60fps, that's a plus in itself.

[Blzer]

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For one thing, we know it'll be running at 60fps, that's a plus in itself.

You're sure about that?

I mean, I've seen games played before, and I remember always hearing that people don't have a problem or see a game when it's running at 30 FPS, or that they believe it's 60 FPS, etc. For example, take a look at ESPN Major League Baseball... that's 60 FPS. Then play MLB 2K5... that might be around 24 FPS to be honest with you. It's very noticeable to me, and I just don't know where you heard that we are guaranteed something like that.

[spankdatazz22]

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It won't be a perfect game, but it could be filled with great, new experiences for football gamers.

Very true. I've wondered how people feel about implementing too much reality into the game like steroids, drugs/alcohol, etc. Personally I'd leave that to Blitz. If it were implemented in a way that wasn't unseemly then I'd welcome it, but think it'd be difficult to do. Also doubt NFL greats would want themselves associated with stuff like that. I think you're right about a dynamic where you had a great talent but adding him could be detrimental to the team (or perhaps improve it, based on different factors), that would be a cool addition. Would have to be done carefully so it doesn't stray too far into Blitz the League's realm

[spankdatazz22]

Re: Anthony Chau of 2K sports interview more or less confirms a 2K Football game in 2

You're sure about that?

I mean, I've seen games played before, and I remember always hearing that people don't have a problem or see a game when it's running at 30 FPS, or that they believe it's 60 FPS, etc. For example, take a look at ESPN Major League Baseball... that's 60 FPS. Then play MLB 2K5... that might be around 24 FPS to be honest with you. It's very noticeable to me, and I just don't know where you heard that we are guaranteed something like that.

If you play them side by side it's easily noticeable. And one of the big knocks against Madden next gen is that it isn't 60fps. It makes their already stiff/uncool looking graphics look even more stiff. I thought the NBA2K dev (forget his name) made a gentle dig at EA when he was asked what frame rate the game ran at and he said something like "all our games [will] run at 60fps". Can't remember the exact quote. But that's obviously something VC shoots for.

NBA07 (989 game) for the PS3 doesn't look/play all that well, but it benefits from running at 60fps (can see it in the PS3 commercials)

[2krules]

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I love the idea of them being able to add things the NFL would NEVER allow, like the throat slash, late hits, and player drug/steriod use. Draft that stud WR that tested positive for weed? Sign that free agent OLB who just served a 4 game suspension last year for steroids?

I hope they don't add that stuff. I wouldn't mind playing as the St. Louis Lambs or the Dallas Cryboys, but I do want gameplay realism, and unpenalized late hits and throat slashes just aren't realistic. If I wanted those things, I'd buy Blitz.

[jmood88]

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I hope they don't add that stuff. I wouldn't mind playing as the St. Louis Lambs or the Dallas Cryboys, but I do want gameplay realism, and unpenalized late hits and throat slashes just aren't realistic. If I wanted those things, I'd buy Blitz.

How is a throat slash or unpenalized hit unrealistic?

[DaveDQ]

Re: Anthony Chau of 2K sports interview more or less confirms a 2K Football game in 2

Alright, I had to...

[VCdolphin]

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I hope they don't add that stuff. I wouldn't mind playing as the St. Louis Lambs or the Dallas Cryboys, but I do want gameplay realism, and unpenalized late hits and throat slashes just aren't realistic. If I wanted those things, I'd buy Blitz.

LOL! Okay, let me be clear. The throat slash gesture was used by DT Tim Bowens for years, until the NFL banned it. No actual throats were slashed, okay?

By late hits I mean the option to take a cheap shot, but probably penalized as a personal foul (maybe you get away with it one out of ten times). Or even better an ANGER rating for a player that shows how they can "lose it" during a game and fight. See the recent Chargers-Broncos game for details.

These things happen, at times, in games. Don't take them anywhere near the Blitz level, but don't give me the NFL sanitized version either.

BTW, nice work dQbell!!

[thejackal25]

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Very true. I've wondered how people feel about implementing too much reality into the game like steroids, drugs/alcohol, etc. Personally I'd leave that to Blitz. If it were implemented in a way that wasn't unseemly then I'd welcome it, but think it'd be difficult to do. Also doubt NFL greats would want themselves associated with stuff like that. I think you're right about a dynamic where you had a great talent but adding him could be detrimental to the team (or perhaps improve it, based on different factors), that would be a cool addition. Would have to be done carefully so it doesn't stray too far into Blitz the League's realm

Do you remember when 2k held a contest in which fans submitted game feature ideas and the winner got 2k games and a tour of 2k headquarters...I think it was either before 2k4 or 2k5...anyway, my point is that I submitted having an "Ego" attribute to the game that would determine how players played on the field, got along w/ teammates, and behaved off the field. I really throught it would be cool to have an attribute that determined whether an aging player accepted a new draft pick as an understudy or tried to fight for the starting job. Or how a WR might respond if his catching average isn't as high as he thinks it should be, taking its toll on team morale. But anyway, to my surprise I got an email back from someone at 2k and they said they loved the idea but couldn't implement that kind of stuff due to NFL restrictions, and possible backlash from some players. Well hopefully they add something like that, cuz it would be fun to explore that dynamic and make teams more balanced as it would be harder to stockpile on good players.

Does anyone else remember that contest? I bet they've had ideas about things they'd like to implement for years but couldn't due to the No Fun League but now they can. Did anyone else submit anything that year?

[DaveDQ]

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Does anyone else remember that contest? I bet they've had ideas about things they'd like to implement for years but couldn't due to the No Fun League but now they can. Did anyone else submit anything that year?

I remember it, I'm almost sure it was inbetween 2K4 and 2K5. I submitted something along the same lines of making the game with a role-playing feature. I have a feeling EA bought the rights to email, interecpeted what we sent out and thus, created Superstar mode.