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  • Primo80
    Rookie
    • Aug 2014
    • 105

    #106
    Re: This game is still unreal!

    The customer is missing out on great gameplay. Madden took on the role of the all encompassing football title, now it has to be everything for everyone. If 2k could still exist, the customer's choice would be over a game's strengths. The two games wouldn't be expected to provide every experience fans want, or every mode.

    Madden has MUT and Superstar. Gauntlet this year. 2k may have chosen to develop similar modes. Or, maybe they would have refined franchise mode. Maybe they would have transitioned gameplay to reflect how players in NBA 2k behave: contextually. They would coexist because of different strengths.

    Personally, I'd be on the 2k train until EA showed better A.I. reactions and awareness. The Madden animation is so damn poor, even compared to 2k8's system.

    Separately, EA has flat out has awful priorities when it comes to dev cycles. They added a game prep function to CFM before adding a practice squad/waivers, contract incentives, pup list, hold outs, conditional draft picks in trades, etc. While there are actual rules written for these items and language/definitions that exist in the NFL-NFLPA agreements -- that front offices need to be very familiar with -- "game prep" confidence and xp are hypothetical values. There is absolutely a place for the game prep function in a video game. But to add it -- and controlling the price of merchandise, for that matter -- before replicating front office personnel rules and procedures, is out of order.

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    • elgreazy1
      MVP
      • Apr 2007
      • 2996

      #107
      Re: This game is still unreal!

      Originally posted by KDayisBack
      when are you going to be back on XBL?
      I'm doing the Bret Favre retirement tour right now.

      Just a factor of things: new job, started waking up crazy early to exercise (5:30am), I was spending more time waiting to get a game in than actually playing, and finally my XBL connection with APF has been really shaky.
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      • ajk49er
        Pro
        • Sep 2011
        • 715

        #108
        Re: This game is still unreal!

        I still refuse to buy an XB1 because all I would need it for is Madden, and I just can't play it due to the 1000 reasons anyone on here knows. and more than anything, even the sim is broken. so all the talk of "only if APF had a franchise mode"...I mean, what good is franchise if progression is broken, if you can't check your player card in most screens, if your gameplay still sucks because penalties don't work and the game is sooo easy and arcade like and worst of all they still haven't fixed legacy issues, and SIM STATS. so what is the point of even using that mode? its broken


        so I still play APF, have over 100 uniform codes that I have saved and probably another 100 plus that I haven't used yet from 09 uniforms to 2014 elite uniforms to movie uniforms to nba uniforms to throwbacks on about half the teams. I love the star system, you actually fear players, avoid great corners, refuse to run at reggie white. the playbooks are great, so easy to work and a lot of fun. I even enjoy choosing my type of generics. no team is really OP, there is a plus and a minus for every lineup. its just a fantastic game


        this game is still far and away gameplay wise the best football game ever. the blocking is unreal, the realism on pass defense is just amazing. the penalties, that every yard is a huge deal as you constantly find yourself challenging the spot in a key situation. the rare events like a snap over the punters head that has happened maybe once and it was epic. all of that stuff factors in and makes it an unbelievable game.


        I wish more played it, I still have to just play offline and am just now looking into doing that editing stuff, I hear its easy but its tough without anyone online to play with the teams anyway. hit me up if you still play 360 APF 2k8 and love to just play sim and try different teams. I enjoy taking a 2000 Rams Team, or making the REAL replacements roster from the movie, I will torch you with shane falco! but seriously, let me know.


        or if you want all those codes in one spot, I am working on that now, testing every code to make sure they are all legit. I expect it to be the largest collection of codes taken from every OS post in archives and 2k sports post in archives. should easily be the largest collection of codes for APF on the net, likely 200-300 working
        Last edited by ajk49er; 09-01-2014, 03:33 PM.
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        • FaceMask
          Banned
          • Oct 2013
          • 847

          #109
          Re: This game is still unreal!

          Originally posted by ajk49er
          I still refuse to buy an XB1 because all I would need it for is Madden, and I just can't play it due to the 1000 reasons anyone on here knows.
          There are probably 10,000 reasons not to buy an XB1. Microsoft really blew it this time, and this is coming from a guy who was a diehard XBOX player from day one. I feel really bad watching people try to defend it.

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          • GiantBlue76
            Banned
            • Jun 2007
            • 3287

            #110
            Re: This game is still unreal!

            Originally posted by Primo80
            The customer is missing out on great gameplay. Madden took on the role of the all encompassing football title, now it has to be everything for everyone. If 2k could still exist, the customer's choice would be over a game's strengths. The two games wouldn't be expected to provide every experience fans want, or every mode.

            Madden has MUT and Superstar. Gauntlet this year. 2k may have chosen to develop similar modes. Or, maybe they would have refined franchise mode. Maybe they would have transitioned gameplay to reflect how players in NBA 2k behave: contextually. They would coexist because of different strengths.

            Personally, I'd be on the 2k train until EA showed better A.I. reactions and awareness. The Madden animation is so damn poor, even compared to 2k8's system.

            Separately, EA has flat out has awful priorities when it comes to dev cycles. They added a game prep function to CFM before adding a practice squad/waivers, contract incentives, pup list, hold outs, conditional draft picks in trades, etc. While there are actual rules written for these items and language/definitions that exist in the NFL-NFLPA agreements -- that front offices need to be very familiar with -- "game prep" confidence and xp are hypothetical values. There is absolutely a place for the game prep function in a video game. But to add it -- and controlling the price of merchandise, for that matter -- before replicating front office personnel rules and procedures, is out of order.
            You, my friend, absolutely "Get it". Glad to see that some of us call it like it really it is. Great post.

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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12172

              #111
              Re: This game is still unreal!

              Originally posted by ajk49er
              I still refuse to buy an XB1 because all I would need it for is Madden, and I just can't play it due to the 1000 reasons anyone on here knows. and more than anything, even the sim is broken. so all the talk of "only if APF had a franchise mode"...I mean, what good is franchise if progression is broken, if you can't check your player card in most screens, if your gameplay still sucks because penalties don't work and the game is sooo easy and arcade like and worst of all they still haven't fixed legacy issues, and SIM STATS. so what is the point of even using that mode? its broken

              While I agree with what was said - I'm a franchise type of player in sports games.

              I enjoy taking teams 10+ years ahead, watching them grow and develop (or fail to do so), taking part in drafts, trades, free agency, coaching, etc.

              That's why I want a franchise mode in games. Madden's franchise isn't great by any means, but, I did get to watch my Raiders in M13 (8 years) and my Bucs in M12 (13 years) evolve, decide what to do with new talents coming from the draft, etc.

              So, yes, I will still say "what if APK had a franchise mode" because that's just the kind of player I am. I don't play single-seasons in sports games. MLBTS, OOTP, FBPro, Madden, doesn't matter.
              "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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              • Bruce1975
                Rookie
                • Sep 2014
                • 102

                #112
                Re: This game is still unreal!

                I think I logged close to 200 online game with this. By far the most time I have ever spent online.

                The way they made the actual stars actually play and feel different was amazing. Controlling Barry Sanders was so different than Natrone Means.

                Having a gold CB be able to lock down a WR 1 on 1 actually let you get more creative with blitzes.

                And the line play....DE's actually getting up field....Having to step up in the pocket with a QB.

                It truly was an amazing game.

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                • tjspeaks
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 407

                  #113
                  Re: This game is still unreal!


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                  • tril
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 2914

                    #114
                    Re: This game is still unreal!

                    each time I watch the twitch feed it makes me want to invest in an XBOX. the XBOX version looks better than the PS3 version, plus I can import all NFL teams
                    good job on the play by play.

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                    • kubankaos
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 255

                      #115
                      Re: This game is still unreal!

                      Originally posted by tril
                      each time I watch the twitch feed it makes me want to invest in an XBOX. the XBOX version looks better than the PS3 version, plus I can import all NFL teams
                      good job on the play by play.
                      Same here. I have everything unlocked for the XBOX version as well. But it's been dead for years and have switched to the PS3/PS4. It's always irritating when I make a gold player and can't give 5 attributes.

                      Plus as you have said.

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                      • noshun
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1150

                        #116
                        Re: This game is still unreal!

                        Originally posted by kubankaos
                        Same here. I have everything unlocked for the XBOX version as well. But it's been dead for years and have switched to the PS3/PS4. It's always irritating when I make a gold player and can't give 5 attributes.

                        Plus as you have said.

                        Theres a PS3 save file with everything unlocked floating around the net.
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                        • Hammertime80
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 96

                          #117
                          Re: This game is still unreal!

                          Does this game still work online for 360?

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                          • elgreazy1
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2996

                            #118
                            Re: This game is still unreal!

                            Originally posted by Hammertime80
                            Does this game still work online for 360?
                            Yep, just not the lobbies. You can challenge people from your Friend's List or go into Custom Match.
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