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  • Freelance
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    • Jul 2002
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    #31
    Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K seri

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    Mot said:
    Hey Erod, you will make the same type of dribble about Quincy.



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    I have absolutely no idea what that means, even if you did spell drivel correctly.

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    • muggins
      It is now the SW Era
      • May 2003
      • 5379

      #32
      Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

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      Erod said:
      Well, crap.
      I, too, have discovered what looks like some absolutely awful AI in the defensive backfield.

      Two problems exist. First, there are animations that DBs get stuck in that are especially troublesome in goal line situations. They make slants almost automatic. And second, the out routes are so automatic that the computer simply has no chance to stop you, and IT NEVER LEARNS!

      Looks like another year of exclusive NCAA action for me, just like last year.

      Back to the drawing board, Sega. How can you do so much so well, yet fail so miserably in such an important AI area?

      I'll wait for the "magical sliders" if they are hidden in the depths of this game, but I'm not feeling confident about that. I've never liked having to "trick up" a game to make it play a good game of football anyway.

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      Did I predict this ? I think I did. There was no way Erod was going to like this game, it would've had to have given him a kiss to make him like it.

      You complain about the db ai yet you play NCAA Lobtheball 2004? Give me a break man. And about sliders- NCAA is the exact same way, you have to sliderf*** the hell out of it to get the computer to run, or your players to catch, etc.

      I haven't seen any complaints about DB ai. Then again the game's only been out 2 days. Anyway, predictable post. Did you write this in May?
      Proud member of the OS Bills Backers.

      BAD BOYS BAD BOYS

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      • muggins
        It is now the SW Era
        • May 2003
        • 5379

        #33
        Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
        Erod said:
        Well, crap.
        I, too, have discovered what looks like some absolutely awful AI in the defensive backfield.

        Two problems exist. First, there are animations that DBs get stuck in that are especially troublesome in goal line situations. They make slants almost automatic. And second, the out routes are so automatic that the computer simply has no chance to stop you, and IT NEVER LEARNS!

        Looks like another year of exclusive NCAA action for me, just like last year.

        Back to the drawing board, Sega. How can you do so much so well, yet fail so miserably in such an important AI area?

        I'll wait for the "magical sliders" if they are hidden in the depths of this game, but I'm not feeling confident about that. I've never liked having to "trick up" a game to make it play a good game of football anyway.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        Did I predict this ? I think I did. There was no way Erod was going to like this game, it would've had to have given him a kiss to make him like it.

        You complain about the db ai yet you play NCAA Lobtheball 2004? Give me a break man. And about sliders- NCAA is the exact same way, you have to sliderf*** the hell out of it to get the computer to run, or your players to catch, etc.

        I haven't seen any complaints about DB ai. Then again the game's only been out 2 days. Anyway, predictable post. Did you write this in May?
        Proud member of the OS Bills Backers.

        BAD BOYS BAD BOYS

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        • muggins
          It is now the SW Era
          • May 2003
          • 5379

          #34
          Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          Erod said:
          Well, crap.
          I, too, have discovered what looks like some absolutely awful AI in the defensive backfield.

          Two problems exist. First, there are animations that DBs get stuck in that are especially troublesome in goal line situations. They make slants almost automatic. And second, the out routes are so automatic that the computer simply has no chance to stop you, and IT NEVER LEARNS!

          Looks like another year of exclusive NCAA action for me, just like last year.

          Back to the drawing board, Sega. How can you do so much so well, yet fail so miserably in such an important AI area?

          I'll wait for the "magical sliders" if they are hidden in the depths of this game, but I'm not feeling confident about that. I've never liked having to "trick up" a game to make it play a good game of football anyway.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          Did I predict this ? I think I did. There was no way Erod was going to like this game, it would've had to have given him a kiss to make him like it.

          You complain about the db ai yet you play NCAA Lobtheball 2004? Give me a break man. And about sliders- NCAA is the exact same way, you have to sliderf*** the hell out of it to get the computer to run, or your players to catch, etc.

          I haven't seen any complaints about DB ai. Then again the game's only been out 2 days. Anyway, predictable post. Did you write this in May?
          Proud member of the OS Bills Backers.

          BAD BOYS BAD BOYS

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          • Freelance
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 7021

            #35
            Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            mugginns said:
            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            Erod said:
            Well, crap.
            I, too, have discovered what looks like some absolutely awful AI in the defensive backfield.

            Two problems exist. First, there are animations that DBs get stuck in that are especially troublesome in goal line situations. They make slants almost automatic. And second, the out routes are so automatic that the computer simply has no chance to stop you, and IT NEVER LEARNS!

            Looks like another year of exclusive NCAA action for me, just like last year.

            Back to the drawing board, Sega. How can you do so much so well, yet fail so miserably in such an important AI area?

            I'll wait for the "magical sliders" if they are hidden in the depths of this game, but I'm not feeling confident about that. I've never liked having to "trick up" a game to make it play a good game of football anyway.

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            Did I predict this ? I think I did. There was no way Erod was going to like this game, it would've had to have given him a kiss to make him like it.

            You complain about the db ai yet you play NCAA Lobtheball 2004? Give me a break man. And about sliders- NCAA is the exact same way, you have to sliderf*** the hell out of it to get the computer to run, or your players to catch, etc.

            I haven't seen any complaints about DB ai. Then again the game's only been out 2 days. Anyway, predictable post. Did you write this in May?

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            Uh, look again. Complaints are rampant.

            I ran out routes up and down the field on legend with no resistance from the CPU whatsoever. It never learns.

            I'm not wasting my time here. You won't acknowledge this serious flaw anyway.

            NCAA gives it up, too, but not like ESPN.

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            • Freelance
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 7021

              #36
              Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              mugginns said:
              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              Erod said:
              Well, crap.
              I, too, have discovered what looks like some absolutely awful AI in the defensive backfield.

              Two problems exist. First, there are animations that DBs get stuck in that are especially troublesome in goal line situations. They make slants almost automatic. And second, the out routes are so automatic that the computer simply has no chance to stop you, and IT NEVER LEARNS!

              Looks like another year of exclusive NCAA action for me, just like last year.

              Back to the drawing board, Sega. How can you do so much so well, yet fail so miserably in such an important AI area?

              I'll wait for the "magical sliders" if they are hidden in the depths of this game, but I'm not feeling confident about that. I've never liked having to "trick up" a game to make it play a good game of football anyway.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Did I predict this ? I think I did. There was no way Erod was going to like this game, it would've had to have given him a kiss to make him like it.

              You complain about the db ai yet you play NCAA Lobtheball 2004? Give me a break man. And about sliders- NCAA is the exact same way, you have to sliderf*** the hell out of it to get the computer to run, or your players to catch, etc.

              I haven't seen any complaints about DB ai. Then again the game's only been out 2 days. Anyway, predictable post. Did you write this in May?

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Uh, look again. Complaints are rampant.

              I ran out routes up and down the field on legend with no resistance from the CPU whatsoever. It never learns.

              I'm not wasting my time here. You won't acknowledge this serious flaw anyway.

              NCAA gives it up, too, but not like ESPN.

              Comment

              • Freelance
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 7021

                #37
                Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                mugginns said:
                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                Erod said:
                Well, crap.
                I, too, have discovered what looks like some absolutely awful AI in the defensive backfield.

                Two problems exist. First, there are animations that DBs get stuck in that are especially troublesome in goal line situations. They make slants almost automatic. And second, the out routes are so automatic that the computer simply has no chance to stop you, and IT NEVER LEARNS!

                Looks like another year of exclusive NCAA action for me, just like last year.

                Back to the drawing board, Sega. How can you do so much so well, yet fail so miserably in such an important AI area?

                I'll wait for the "magical sliders" if they are hidden in the depths of this game, but I'm not feeling confident about that. I've never liked having to "trick up" a game to make it play a good game of football anyway.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Did I predict this ? I think I did. There was no way Erod was going to like this game, it would've had to have given him a kiss to make him like it.

                You complain about the db ai yet you play NCAA Lobtheball 2004? Give me a break man. And about sliders- NCAA is the exact same way, you have to sliderf*** the hell out of it to get the computer to run, or your players to catch, etc.

                I haven't seen any complaints about DB ai. Then again the game's only been out 2 days. Anyway, predictable post. Did you write this in May?

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Uh, look again. Complaints are rampant.

                I ran out routes up and down the field on legend with no resistance from the CPU whatsoever. It never learns.

                I'm not wasting my time here. You won't acknowledge this serious flaw anyway.

                NCAA gives it up, too, but not like ESPN.

                Comment

                • Radja
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 1972

                  #38
                  Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                  out of curiosity, what level are you playing at?

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                  • Radja
                    MVP
                    • May 2003
                    • 1972

                    #39
                    Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                    out of curiosity, what level are you playing at?

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                    • Radja
                      MVP
                      • May 2003
                      • 1972

                      #40
                      Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                      out of curiosity, what level are you playing at?

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                      • indeed
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 91

                        #41
                        Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                        About those sacks...YES there are all kinds of sacks the QB doesn't magically pass the ball, in fact sometimes you will see them freak out and scramble for their lives hell they even brace themselves to protect the ball...

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                        • indeed
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 91

                          #42
                          Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                          About those sacks...YES there are all kinds of sacks the QB doesn't magically pass the ball, in fact sometimes you will see them freak out and scramble for their lives hell they even brace themselves to protect the ball...

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                          • indeed
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 91

                            #43
                            Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                            About those sacks...YES there are all kinds of sacks the QB doesn't magically pass the ball, in fact sometimes you will see them freak out and scramble for their lives hell they even brace themselves to protect the ball...

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                            • Radja
                              MVP
                              • May 2003
                              • 1972

                              #44
                              Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                              one more thing erod, try the game for a franchise or season. one thing sega has always had is the cpu will take the outs and favorite plays away in time. it is susceptible to the flag and corner patterns, but those are the hardest to defend in real life.

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                              • Radja
                                MVP
                                • May 2003
                                • 1972

                                #45
                                Re: Scattershooting observations from a longtime critic of the 2K series

                                one more thing erod, try the game for a franchise or season. one thing sega has always had is the cpu will take the outs and favorite plays away in time. it is susceptible to the flag and corner patterns, but those are the hardest to defend in real life.

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