Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

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  • kjcheezhead
    MVP
    • May 2009
    • 3118

    #376
    Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

    Originally posted by mestevo
    Good bit of info in one of his replies:

    Damon Grow: we have nearly 3500 fan permutations in v.1 procedurally generated per game and weather conditions

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    3500 would be about 60 different hat/shirt/gender/hair/face/skin texture/color combinations.
    Not sure where you get the 60 from. 3500 would be the total number of different combinations I think. But it depends on what differences you count. Madden 25 claims 40,000 variations, but to get to that number you would have to count every team variation of the different combos as a unique character so it can be misleading.

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    • mestevo
      Gooney Goo Goo
      • Apr 2010
      • 19556

      #377
      Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

      Number of possibilities × number of possibilities = # of permutations. So square root of 3500 is 59.blah. That's where my about 60 came from.

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      • kjcheezhead
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 3118

        #378
        Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

        Originally posted by mestevo
        Number of possibilities × number of possibilities = # of permutations. So square root of 3500 is 59.blah. That's where my about 60 came from.
        So using that formula you get 200 different variations in madden. But still difficult to picture or compare because people have pointed out multiple times that no women or children attend madden games, and Madden is probably counting the same guy in a different team color as unique.

        I think number does point to a console/cpu game because either way, it's a ton of detail to put into the stadium crowd in a mobile game.

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        • kcsam
          Pro
          • Feb 2011
          • 676

          #379
          Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

          Originally posted by Bull_Dozer
          I tend to agree. Would be way too much effort and detail for a tablet based game. This has got to be a console and/or PC game.
          I agree. I just don't understand why they won't come out and say it's a console or PC game. What does it matter if the public knows what platform the game will play on?

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          • kcsam
            Pro
            • Feb 2011
            • 676

            #380
            Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

            Originally posted by kjcheezhead
            So using that formula you get 200 different variations in madden. But still difficult to picture or compare because people have pointed out multiple times that no women or children attend madden games, and Madden is probably counting the same guy in a different team color as unique.

            I think number does point to a console/cpu game because either way, it's a ton of detail to put into the stadium crowd in a mobile game.
            I just hope the attention to detail in regards to something like crowd variations doesn't take away from the actual game play or sim engine. Kind of like when Madden went out of their way a few years back to talk about the amount of time and detail that went into 1 single blade of grass. Who cares?! The game itself lacked (and continues to lack) in so many areas. Give me better AI, penalties, sliders that work and stuff that actually happens in NFL games on Sunday.

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            • mestevo
              Gooney Goo Goo
              • Apr 2010
              • 19556

              #381
              Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

              Originally posted by kcsam
              I agree. I just don't understand why they won't come out and say it's a console or PC game. What does it matter if the public knows what platform the game will play on?
              It absolutely matters if it is potentially off-putting, PC and tablets for example. Many will immediately tune out if it is mobile/PC.

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              • Aggies67
                Banned
                • Jun 2011
                • 918

                #382
                Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                Originally posted by mestevo
                It absolutely matters if it is potentially off-putting, PC and tablets for example. Many will immediately tune out if it is mobile/PC.
                Well, if it's a mobile game, they'll have to announce it's a mobile game at some point, and then people will tune out anyway, so I don't understand the need to delay it.
                Last edited by Aggies67; 02-05-2015, 05:57 PM.

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                • Segagendude
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 7940

                  #383
                  Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                  Originally posted by mestevo
                  It absolutely matters if it is potentially off-putting, PC and tablets for example. Many will immediately tune out if it is mobile/PC.
                  I'll tune out if it's mobile.

                  I'll celebrate New Years Eve style times ten if it's PC.

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                  • Big FN Deal
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 5993

                    #384
                    Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                    Originally posted by Segagendude
                    I'll tune out if it's mobile.

                    I'll celebrate New Years Eve style times ten if it's PC.
                    Exactly and it seems to make the most sense for it to be PC based, at least initially, considering there is no football video game currently available for PC. What better way to initially compete in the football video game genre than on PC where there is no competition. Add to that Grow stating JM16 won't be PC only, it seems likely they will be trying to capitalize on that voided market.

                    I think that is a wise choice, given the full modding potential possible with a PC game. Like I stated before, if talented PC modders could get their hands on a football game with depth and structure to recreate the NFL, that goes viral and has the masses feening for a console version.

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                    • Gman 18
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2902

                      #385
                      Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                      Originally posted by Segagendude
                      I'll tune out if it's mobile.

                      I'll celebrate New Years Eve style times ten if it's PC.
                      At this point its almost guaranteed that this will be a console game. The amount of feedback Damon has had with the community and the tweets about having no involvement with EA and " not just another roster update " leads me to believe that it will be on PS4, Xbox one, and possibly PC. Damon doesn't seem like the type of dev that would get everybody's hopes up about this game and then let some people down because the game won't be for the PS4 and Xbox one. Hopefully this game will force EA to step their game up with madden 16

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                      • kjcheezhead
                        MVP
                        • May 2009
                        • 3118

                        #386
                        Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                        Originally posted by Gman 18
                        At this point its almost guaranteed that this will be a console game. The amount of feedback Damon has had with the community and the tweets about having no involvement with EA and " not just another roster update " leads me to believe that it will be on PS4, Xbox one, and possibly PC. Damon doesn't seem like the type of dev that would get everybody's hopes up about this game and then let some people down because the game won't be for the PS4 and Xbox one. Hopefully this game will force EA to step their game up with madden 16

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                        He posted a tweet last night saying that they will have forums up soon. Does any mobile game have its own forum?

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                        • kcsam
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 676

                          #387
                          Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                          Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                          He posted a tweet last night saying that they will have forums up soon. Does any mobile game have its own forum?
                          Good point. This has to be a console/PC game. Bring on the forum!

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                          • burnt_secondary
                            Rookie
                            • May 2003
                            • 184

                            #388
                            Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                            On the first try . . . candy crush has a forum . . . it appears active. Hell has frozen over.

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                            • Segagendude
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 7940

                              #389
                              Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                              Originally posted by burnt_secondary
                              On the first try . . . candy crush has a forum . . . it appears active. Hell has frozen over.

                              https://forums.king.com/en/forum/candy-crush-saga
                              To be fair, that's just a "how do I get ______" and bugs and glitches. Nothing about development.

                              I still have hope this game not a mobile app.

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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #390
                                Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

                                Just looking at the New + Updated list on Google Play and randomly googling a few of them over 2 minutes:

                                Summoner's War: http://forum.com2us.com/forum/main-forum/summoner-s-war

                                Blood Brothers 2: http://forums.dena.com/forumdisplay....ood-Brothers-2

                                Honorbound: http://forum.juiceboxmobile.com/foru...mes/honorbound

                                Not sure forums are a barometer for anything really either way.

                                Hope they're more productive than the Backbreaker forums.

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