Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

I do feel it is enough. I believe focus is the main attribute that expresses how well that player plays his position.

Im very cool with that,and if the programers did a good job with that rating then everything will be fine.

We shall find out for sure come June 1st

[LingeringRegime]

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There is also a listing for gold players as you can see in this video. Not sure exactly how that is derived. Perhaps a total culmination of the the four ratings, like 325+ points out of 400 is a gold player.

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[spacehopper]

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yeah,Wagoner is definitely more accurate.

Its interesting you say this! I had it confirmed that they are the only 4 attributes in the game none are hidden.!

[foolish813]

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Hitting power should correspond more to weight and agility. Players agility should let them make better hits with less weight cause they can throw their body better. Strength is geared more towards wrap up tackles and blocking.

The only reason I don't like position based attributes is cause what if u have a guy like T.O. who is probably stronger than most of your LBs. Then the ratings would make that kinda hard to translate. When most recievers wouldn't be.

[beastwork]

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Hopefully there are more ratings in the full version. i think madden has definitely gone overboard with the ratings, but I'm not so sure that the minimalist approach is best either. I started making a list of the most basic ratings that determine what a good football player is at each position, and I easily got up to about 20.




I'm not sure if I like the position specific strength ratings. What does this tell me about how my RB should interact with linemen. Who wins the strength battle between a 95 RB and a 70 DT? Perhaps a hint of smoke and mirrors? If this is true it means they have capped the attributes of certain positions. In his younger years Javon Kearse supposedly could run a 4.4/4.5 40 yard dash. Is it possible to make a DE with this kind of speed in Back Breaker? Or how about the freakishly strong RBs in the league? Is RB strength capped?

[spacehopper]

Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

Hopefully there are more ratings in the full version. i think madden has definitely gone overboard with the ratings, but I'm not so sure that the minimalist approach is best either. I started making a list of the most basic ratings that determine what a good football player is at each position, and I easily got up to about 20.




I'm not sure if I like the position specific strength ratings. What does this tell me about how my RB should interact with linemen. Who wins the strength battle between a 95 RB and a 70 DT? Perhaps a hint of smoke and mirrors? If this is true it means they have capped the attributes of certain positions. In his younger years Javon Kearse supposedly could run a 4.4/4.5 40 yard dash. Is it possible to make a DE with this kind of speed in Back Breaker? Or how about the freakishly strong RBs in the league? Is RB strength capped?

As I said there are only 4 rating in the game (yes the full version).

Strength, Speed and Agility are the same for all except qb's. look at the speed of the lineman it gives it away!

Also no one really knows what the worlf focus actually is!

[granddogg]

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there ratings go hand and hand with there engine..its not just sitting on top but the rating are the engine...

[spacehopper]

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there ratings go hand and hand with there engine..its not just sitting on top but the rating are the engine...

Good way of putting it! Still it does not take away the lack of depth!

[seriousluboy83]

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nope

[beastwork]

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Strength, Speed and Agility are the same for all except qb's. look at the speed of the lineman it gives it away!

hmm...what's the point in making the ratings different for the QB's? Maybe i should reserve comment until the PS3 demo comes out. I just have a lot of questions about how this game was built

[mgoblue678]

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As I said there are only 4 rating in the game (yes the full version).

Strength, Speed and Agility are the same for all except qb's. look at the speed of the lineman it gives it away!

Also no one really knows what the worlf focus actually is!

May, I ask how do you know there are only 4 in the final game? You say you had it confirmed, what exactly does that mean? Did you speak to a dev or something?

Excuse me if I am a little skeptical of someone with 3 posts who claims they had something confirmed without explaining how.

[Exonerated]

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There are actually 5 for each player. 4 of the are the same for every player. The 5th is player specific.

As I'm led to believe . . . . .

[spacehopper]

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May, I ask how do you know there are only 4 in the final game? You say you had it confirmed, what exactly does that mean? Did you speak to a dev or something?

Excuse me if I am a little skeptical of someone with 3 posts who claims they had something confirmed without explaining how.

PMed a dev, simple as -he said he thinks there 4 - which basically means there is- if you know what im saying!

[gr18]

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If the game we have June 1st is the same as the demo I believe that if the defensive front 7's strength ratings were all around 10 points lower than they are we would see;

the o-line give up less sacks to the overpowering d-line

the running games get better,less run stuffs

the qb's get a little more time in the pocket resulting in less computer qb ints.

The int. problem may need a little more help with qb's rated a little higher or db's focus a little lower as long as it doesn't dumb them down too much.

[Lisa_Bonami]

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Also besides just Player Ratings and Attributes, Are there different behaviors or tendencies that differentiate the players?