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  • CQI
    Rookie
    • Mar 2007
    • 146

    #346
    Re: Early Copy...

    I only got them to punt once into the endzone, but it happened (starting at the goal line). Hopefully it was a random occurrence. I will have to do more tests when I get off work. And yes, it was on the full game, not demo.

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    • ezio
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 2853

      #347
      Re: Early Copy...

      Are there in-game saves? I know it is a long shot but thought I would ask.

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      • SHO-OFF
        Rookie
        • Apr 2010
        • 15

        #348
        Re: Early Copy...

        any early places in manhattan n.y. have it, if so let me know please

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        • murry
          Banned
          • Jan 2006
          • 185

          #349
          Re: Early Copy...

          Originally posted by SIM RULES
          I also recall 2K5 having this same QB issue, yet many still regard it as the best game ever made. The other game had this same issue, and they corrected it with ROBO QB. It looks like AI issues plague all sports games. Every sports game I ever played has AI issues, some are just more glaring than others. That is why I prefer to play human opponents. I look forward to playing online, and seeing what this game really has to offer.

          Although I believe that these issues should have been caught before release. It is difficult for me to expect a brand new dev. team, with it's first game, to be perfect. I do believe these issues need to be pointed out, and complained about. I am more curious to see how they respond. Will they address the issues, or pretend that they don't exist.

          For people that prefer human versus computer games, it looks like a patch is needed. I believe that every sports game over the past few years, has needed a patch to fix some issue. It appears to be an unfortunate trend.
          Great point. I am looking forward to purchasing the game, and formulating my own opinion. Very good post, it puts AI issues back into perspective. I enjoy reading unbiased opinions.

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          • dman08
            Pro
            • Jan 2008
            • 754

            #350
            Re: Early Copy...

            I can't see the stream right now but I think what would help is to see either guy play against Indy, who supposedly has the best qb on the game. Or Philly, who has the best offense on the game at 80. If u u could play either of those teams on the hardest difficulty and have the form equal for u and the cpu, that would tell us alot about the competition the cpu will put up. I've already preordered this game myself and i can overlook alot with this being NM first try but the cpu AI has to be at least challenging for me to enjoy this game. I love the physics, I'm excited about the camera honestly but I have to be challenged to really enjoy this game. I dont mean to the point where I feel cheated. Just wanna be able to tell the difference btween average teams and good teams on the game. It would be much appreciated.
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            • alliance4g63
              Rookie
              • Jun 2007
              • 331

              #351
              Re: Early Copy...

              This is the thing, I have played the demo quite a bit and have read the majority of the impressions. From what I can gather, the inconsistences in difficulty as well as turnovers is mainly because the euphoria engine is untamed. Alot of picks come from deflected passes. What happens when you get a deflection and your DB's dont catch the pass? That happened a ton in APF and made playing defense almost useless.

              I personally would rather have too many turnovers than calling a great defense and putting players in position to make plays and getting little to no turnovers. Madden has Robo Qb, BB has ball hawk defenders, pick your fancy.

              Like many have said, the foundation put down should be worthy of a purchase. I still have insane fun with the demo just taking everything in that is happening around. Again they have a real solid engine, it just needs tweaking. If any of you gave Madden 06/09 a buy, there is no way you shouldn't give BB a try as well. Give your 50 to ensure we keep competition in football gaming atleast.
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              • Methlab
                MVP
                • Oct 2003
                • 2384

                #352
                Re: Early Copy...

                I also do not mind the TO's. I think it will make online games more fun. Imagine throwing for 3 TDs and no INTs in an online game. It will feel like a beastly accomplishment. I can do that all day in most other football games and it is not a huge deal.

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                • sleepyeagle
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 213

                  #353
                  Re: Early Copy...

                  Also I'm trying to remember that this is the future...nobody knows what kind of powers our brains will have developed by then

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                  • mgoblue678
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3371

                    #354
                    Re: Early Copy...

                    Originally posted by alliance4g63
                    This is the thing, I have played the demo quite a bit and have read the majority of the impressions. From what I can gather, the inconsistences in difficulty as well as turnovers is mainly because the euphoria engine is untamed. Alot of picks come from deflected passes. What happens when you get a deflection and your DB's dont catch the pass? That happened a ton in APF and made playing defense almost useless.

                    I personally would rather have too many turnovers than calling a great defense and putting players in position to make plays and getting little to no turnovers. Madden has Robo Qb, BB has ball hawk defenders, pick your fancy.

                    Like many have said, the foundation put down should be worthy of a purchase. I still have insane fun with the demo just taking everything in that is happening around. Again they have a real solid engine, it just needs tweaking. If any of you gave Madden 06/09 a buy, there is no way you shouldn't give BB a try as well. Give your 50 to ensure we keep competition in football gaming atleast.
                    The problem isn't simple that the defenders catch everything, that is part of the problem, but the the other half is the CPU QB making too many dumb throws into coverage.

                    If the CPU is not challenging there is no point in playing the two franchise modes at least to me. Playing exhibition online games wouldn't be enough for me if that was the case.

                    I am cutting them some slack on some other things because it is a first effort, but I can't cut them slack if the CPU is too brain dead to give me a challenge. That would make the game get old really fast.

                    And I was as jacked up as anybody before yesterday about picking it up day one.
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                    • adamgod8
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 449

                      #355
                      Re: Early Copy...

                      Originally posted by mgoblue678
                      The problem isn't simple that the defenders catch everything, that is part of the problem, but the the other half is the CPU QB making too many dumb throws into coverage.

                      If the CPU is not challenging there is no point in playing the two franchise modes at least to me. Playing exhibition online games wouldn't be enough for me if that was the case.

                      I am cutting them some slack on some other things because it is a first effort, but I can't cut them slack if the CPU is too brain dead to give me a challenge. That would make the game get old really fast.

                      And I was as jacked up as anybody before yesterday about picking it up day one.
                      Has anyone played the CPU on Hard with the CPU form all the way up and the Human form all the way down??

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                      • stiffarmleft
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1986

                        #356
                        Re: Early Copy...

                        Originally posted by adamgod8
                        Has anyone played the CPU on Hard with the CPU form all the way up and the Human form all the way down??
                        I could not find a way to change form for the CPU in exhibition, only for the user controlled team.

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                        • linkboy
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 113

                          #357
                          Re: Early Copy...

                          Check your local Gamestops. My two Gamestops are going to sell the game early tomorrow.

                          I've got it preordered at my local Play N Trade and they're calling around to try to sell it early, so I might get it tomorrow.

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                          • hatisback
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 1013

                            #358
                            Re: Early Copy...

                            Originally posted by stiffarmleft
                            I could not find a way to change form for the CPU in exhibition, only for the user controlled team.
                            Then try to play on hard and set your form to the lowest and see what happens.

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