NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

[dieselboy]

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

Notes: Young to Titans, Leinart to Oakland, etc.

[sammyc521]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

At least Wright has Seattle taking BPA of a need instead of a luxery.

[dieselboy]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

Seahawks going CB in one, DE in two, sounds likely. (and then hopefully Harrison in the 4th)

[feeq14]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

With Manning looking to be all but signed, im pretty sure that The bears arent going to go DB in the first round.

[ZB9]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

they have some interesting comments about Bush, and whether he should go #1 overall to Houston...

"Have you ever seen a college player or pro prospect with as much hype as Reggie Bush has right now? I'm not sure I have, but quite honestly he deserves it because he is a phenomenal talent and potentially a special player. With that said, I think everyone penciling him in as a lock to go #1 overall in the 2006 NFL Draft had better pull back on the reigns a little bit.

Based on pure talent Bush will most likely be the #1 rated player on everybody's board (including mine), but as every draftnik knows "need" plays almost as big of a role in a teams selection as talent does. If Houston does indeed end up choosing #1 they sure don't need a running back, with Domanick Davis rushing for 1,000+ yards every season of his career and having just signed a brand new $21.1 million contract extension. Could they still take Bush? Absolutely, but if they do it will be simply bowing to public pressure to select the marquee name because regardless of how talented the guy is he simply does not fill a need and choosing him would be a lateral move for the franchise. Heck, he wouldn't even help them as a kick returner because Jerome Mathis has already established himself as one of the best in the league. The smart football move would be to trade down for a package of picks and address their horrendous offensive line, and you can bet that the majority of the teams looking to deal up will be after quarterback Matt Leinart, not Bush. Can you say New York Jets, Tennessee Titans, Arizona Cardinals, Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, Oakland Raiders and Miami Dolphins (just to name a few). In fact, it would appear that Green Bay and San Francisco are the only teams near the top of the draft order who would consider moving up with Bush as their target. Do the math and that's 4-to-1 in favor of the quarterback. The bidding would likely start at what the Giants paid to move up and select Eli Manning in 2004 and it could easily go far beyond that if the top underclassmen quarterbacks decide to return to college, essentially making Leinart the only game in town at the league's most valued position. In other words they can expect a king's ransom should they opt to deal the choice.

Another factor to consider is how much he would help a team even if, in a best-case scenario, he develops into one of the premier players at his position in the NFL. Let's take a look at some of the greatest running backs who have ever played the game and how they did when it comes to the Super Bowls which, after all, is why they play the games. O.J. Simpson never even played in one. Eric Dickerson didn't win one. Negative for Barry Sanders too. Emmitt Smith won a bunch but he also had Troy Aikman. Walter Payton didn't win a Super Bowl until the Bears had one of the best defenses in league history in 1985. Gale Sayers, the guy who Bush is most often compared to, never even played in a playoff game! How about some of the most productive runners from recent years. Curtis Martin? LaDainian Tomlinson? No and No. The bottom line is that even some of the best to ever play the game did not take their team to the Promised Land. However from 1993 to 2001 seven of the nine Super Bowl's were won by teams quarterbacked by former 1st round picks, and that doesn't include Brett Favre who went 33rd overall and was later traded to Green Bay for a #1 pick. With that kind of history I'd stake my claim to Leinart providing I didn't already have a top quarterback because history has shown that even a slightly above average signal caller can take his team to and win the big one.

The 2006 NFL Draft is still months away but if I were a betting man I'd place my money on Matt Leinart being the guy who ultimately goes #1 overall come April 29th and while that might not be the flashiest pick, history tells us it will be the right one."

[coogrfan]

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First, the flashing ad at the top of that page is the single most annoying thing I've ever seen.

I share the writer's view that trading down would be the best move, but that requires someone willing to give up enough to make it worthwhile. To date, no one has come close to making such an offer. It appears the Texans will be staying put.

If the Texans do keep the #1 pick, they must select Bush. The idea that the Texans shouldn't draft Bush because they already have Domanick Davis is hogwash. DD is, at best, an average starting NFL running back. There is absolutely nothing special about his game. Bush, otoh, is a gamebreaker who has the potential to change the outcome of a game every time he touches the ball.

[ZB9]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

imho, if Houston cant get a trade partner, then Mario Williams would be a better pick at #1 overall than Reggie Bush.

[sportsdude]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

Very impressive mock draft, love the guys at nfl draft countdown, they actually do their homework unlike Mel Kiper.

Few thoughts: There's no doubting Jason Allen (CB/S, Tenn.) is a great talent, but after seeing that video where he gets run over like 10 times by RBs (half of them by Ronnie Brown), I find it kind of hard to think of him as anything more than an average safety. I mean, if he's laying down like that in college, who's to say he won't do it in the pros.

Also, Bobby Carpenter to the Panthers, gotta love it. As an OSU fan, getting a chance to see Bobby and Chris Gamble on the same defense would be awesome.

Donte Whitner as a Bengal is a perfect fit. I can't imagine a better team for him to go to.

Ngata on the Browns=scary for opposing offensive lines.

Leinart to the Raiders-interesting. Had not thought about this before, but being able to throw to Randy Moss and Jerry Porter would be a huge boost for him compared to throwing to whoever they have at receiver in Tennesee.

Also like Ernie Sims to the Vikings. They only can hope he falls to them.

Looking at their second round mock, it just reiterates how deep this draft is. Most of those guys would be first rounders any other year.

[Thrasha]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

Leinart to the Raiders-interesting. Had not thought about this before, but being able to throw to Randy Moss and Jerry Porter would be a huge boost for him compared to throwing to whoever they have at receiver in Tennesee.

ML will probably sit for a year, whether its Tenn or Oak. Unless Brooks is a complete bust which might not be much of a stretch...

I'd hate to see the Titans draft Young over Lienart. I can see that being a big bone of contention between Fisher and Reese. Especially if Fisher is leaning heavily towards ML. It could be a situation where Fisher would leave for greener pastures in the off-season to a team that will give him more control over player personnel.

[Karlos05]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

The more mocks I see the more I flip-flop about the Steelers.


If Lendale is there at 32 he would be a steal talent-wise, but I don't know if the Steelers would take him. I think they believe in the Parker/Duce/Haynes trio and I have a hard time accepting they would carry and activate 4 RB's a game. (I still don't think Lendale will fall this far in real life, but in this draft).

My heart says go with the cool Lendale pick, but sometime I think a less "sexy" pick would be better. If a FS fell to us, or a LB, or even help on the DL they could really fit in well.

The closer we get to draft day the more I'm torn.

[sportsdude]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

ML will probably sit for a year, whether its Tenn or Oak. Unless Brooks is a complete bust which might not be much of a stretch...

I'd hate to see the Titans draft Young over Lienart. I can see that being a big bone of contention between Fisher and Reese. Especially if Fisher is leaning heavily towards ML. It could be a situation where Fisher would leave for greener pastures in the off-season to a team that will give him more control over player personnel.

Everything I've read and heard seems to indicate that the coaching staff wants Leinart while the GM wants Vince Young. Very sticky situation. Will be interesting to see the fallout from whoever they pick. Can't imagine Fisher anywhere else, he's one of the most tenured coaches in the NFL, probably second to Cowher.

[coogrfan]

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imho, if Houston cant get a trade partner, then Mario Williams would be a better pick at #1 overall than Reggie Bush.

How do the Texans sell that to their throughly disillusioned fanbase? They're going to have enough trouble with the disgruntled Vince Young fans as it is. Can you imagine what the local reaction will be if they pass on both VY and Reggie Bush in order to select a defensive end?

[Thrasha]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

Everything I've read and heard seems to indicate that the coaching staff wants Leinart while the GM wants Vince Young. Very sticky situation. Will be interesting to see the fallout from whoever they pick. Can't imagine Fisher anywhere else, he's one of the most tenured coaches in the NFL, probably second to Cowher.

Yep, he is right behind Cowher but not by much. Their were rumors he was possibly entertaining offers this off-season but nothing really came of it. Their were some rumors the year before that too.

If their is a big rift between the FO and the CS than I wouldn't be surprised if this was his last year in Tenn unfortunately.

[Dallasin2K3]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

What is so wrong with the Texans having Domanick Davis AND Reggie Bush? Having two RB's is a huge asset. Look at the Steelers, for example, who (had) three (FWP, Duce, Bettis), or the Chiefs, with LJ and Priest. Dolphins with RW and Ronnie Brown caught FIRE at the end of last year. Panthers with Stephen Davis and Deshaun Foster. Falcons with Dunn, Duckett, (and Vick, lol). Broncos with about 8 different guys. Both Davis and Bush are also very good recievers, I see no reason for the Texans to do anything else. You could do so much with two backs that are that versatile. Get them both, keep them both.

[Dallasin2K3]

Re: NFL Draft Countdown Mock - Updated 4/17

The more mocks I see the more I flip-flop about the Steelers.


If Lendale is there at 32 he would be a steal talent-wise, but I don't know if the Steelers would take him. I think they believe in the Parker/Duce/Haynes trio and I have a hard time accepting they would carry and activate 4 RB's a game. (I still don't think Lendale will fall this far in real life, but in this draft).

My heart says go with the cool Lendale pick, but sometime I think a less "sexy" pick would be better. If a FS fell to us, or a LB, or even help on the DL they could really fit in well.

The closer we get to draft day the more I'm torn.

Duce is old, Haynes has been no more than a third down back, and Parker probably can't carry the bulk of the carries. LenDale would bring what Bettis and Duce brought, plus some. I'd pull the trigger if I was Pittsburgh, and he's there.