report: Giants should have had another play

[Brandwin]

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Yes, games should NOT be decided by the refs, but you know that it happens all the time. Seriously, how does attention get deflected from the giants kicking game, to the referees? If you acknowledge that the giants did not deserve the win, then why worry about all of this news??? Hell, I was mad at some of the calls made in overtime last week vs the giants, but I knew it was the EAGLES that f'd things up. I can complain all I want, but that's just ignoring the real problems and reasons for losing...ultimately, it's not going to make things better, or make you feel any better. Let it go...


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^ yep

[NYJets]

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I'm just saying this cuz they blew a rule. In that Jets game they didn't blow a rule, they just made a bad call. I can understand blowing a judgement call, but to not have an understanding of the rules? Rediculous for a referee. Bring a rulebook on to the field, and read it if you have too, there is no excuse to blow a call because you didn't know the rule.

[bkrich83]

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good point Jets, but again they didnt call PI, so technically they got the rule right, now how you couldnt call a PI on that play is beyond me. I havent read the article yet, but am about too.

[TombSong]

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IllWill, I am glad the giants lost. I get to tease all the giants fans at my job that teased me about the cowboys losing to them. Yall seem to only be concerned about how sloppy the giants played. Yes they did, but at the moment of truth in the game....the deciding play....the refs took the game out of their hands and the 49ers hands. Yes it happens but that dont make it right. Yes its a part of sports and we are gonna all have to live with it but it really sux.

[iLLWiLL]

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I think you're splitting hairs when talking about which is worse, a bad judgement call or a blown rule. Pick your poison, they are both just BAD. Refs blow all the time, and that doesn't make it acceptable by any means, but it happens. Again, I hate to see things end on any bad or missed call, and I'll be damned if the Eagles season ends with a win or loss resulting from bad refs.....but you can't do anything about it. ASK THE RAIDERS...

[NYJets]

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Yea I realize that, that is one reason I protest has no chance of working, but if they had gotten the rule correct on the field, they almost definetly would have thrown the flag for pass interference, as it was obvious. That can't be proven, so technically it was a judgement call, but we all no that wasn't really the case

[bkrich83]

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This just goes to what I have been saying for the last 4 or 5 years. Officiating in the NFL has been atrocious.

[EaglesFan]

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Quit whining, they weren't good enough, this play shouldn't have meant a thing.

[NYJets]

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I don't know who that is directed at, but your wrong. Sure the Giants should have been blowing them out still, but they had a chance to win the game anyway, but the refs took that away.

You can't just excuse bad officiating because the game shouldn't have come down to it.

[iLLWiLL]

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but at the moment of truth in the game....the deciding play....the refs took the game out of their hands and the 49ers hands.

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To me, if a flag was thrown for PI, then the refs would have been deciding the game anyways. If the guy wasn't an eligible receiver to start with, why should PI be called? The giants SCREWED THEMSELVES on that final play, and the refs would be bailing out the giants if PI was called and the giants were given another play. Ok, I'm getting redundant, but the refs would've been taking the game out of the hands of the 9ers at this point.

I mean, it didn't happen to MY team ** KNOCK ON WOOD ** .......in fact, it happened to the GIANTS, so in essence, I can give a damn!

[Toss2Moss]

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"Quit whining, they weren't good enough, this play shouldn't have meant a thing. "

You know if the same thing happened to your team you'd be pissed off and saying the same. Anybody would, the game wasn't fair and by the rules. I bring up the fact the officials gave the Vikes/Pack game in Lambeau to the Pack and I'm a whining complaining puss. After the fact the league admitted 9 blown calls.

[NYJets]

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But what the NFL is saying I think, is that the guy who almost caught the ball was elidgable. A different player was inelledgable. (excuse my spelling)

So both penalties should have still been called.

[EaglesFan]

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But what the NFL is saying I think, is that the guy who almost caught the ball was elidgable. A different player was inelledgable. (excuse my spelling)

So both penalties should have still been called.

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Correct

[iLLWiLL]

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"Quit whining, they weren't good enough, this play shouldn't have meant a thing. "

You know if the same thing happened to your team you'd be pissed off and saying the same.

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I know this was directed at EaglesFan.....but I'll reply.

If that was the MY EAGLES THAT BLEW IT ON THE LAST PLAY OF THE GAME at Candlestick yesterday.......I would not be complaining. I mentioned this in another thread, back in '97 it was the EAGLES that fuct things up on a botched snap in Dallas, and lost the game in the final seconds. And back then, I didn't turn to the refs looking for some penalty. They fuct up, period. Like I said, yesterday the talk was about the giants "choking". Now, because of ESPN and the associated press, attention has turned to the refs! Giants blew it...and now some people are just looking for a scapegoat.

David Akers could've beat the giants a week before, but he BLEW a fg. EAGLES DEFENSE got ran over by the giants last week. And the Eagles got TWO bad calls in overtime, and eventually LOST. WE blew it, and there were no excuses from me last week, no excuses now.........

[PittDawg21]

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Here it is, in black and white.......

A videotape review by NFL Director of Officiating Mike Pereira of the final play -- the Giants' 41-yard field goal attempt with six seconds remaining -- determined the following:

Tam Hopkins, No. 65, of the Giants lined up as the left guard and was illegally downfield on the pass attempt. The three flags thrown on this play were for this penalty.
Guard Rich Seubert, No. 69, was an eligible receiver on Giants field-goal attempts. This was reported to the officiating crew prior to the game as is routinely done before every game.
49ers defensive end Chike Okeafor interfered with Seubert downfield when he was attempting to catch Giants holder Matt Allen's pass. This defensive pass-interference penalty against the 49ers was not called.
If defensive pass interference had been called, there would have been offsetting penalties (ineligible receiver against the Giants and pass interference against the 49ers) with the down replayed at the original line of scrimmage, the San Francisco 23-yard line. Although time had expired, a game cannot end with offsetting penalties. Thus, the game would have been extended by one untimed down.