Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

[z Revis]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

I don't believe that players take it to another level or 'elevate their game' under pressure/clutch situations. They don't suddenly become better football players or throw more accurate passes. They play at the level they usually play at and what they're capable of playing at. I just don't think they(clutch players) get rattled by the pressure which allows them to maintain focus and make accurate reads. Typically when a player "chokes" they force the issue. They get rattled, make a poor read, and force the ball. Players that are "clutch" are able to stay calm and play like it's the 1st quarter. In my opinion at least.

[jeremym480]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

I don't believe that players take it to another level or 'elevate their game' under pressure/clutch situations. They don't suddenly become better football players or throw more accurate passes. They play at the level they usually play at and what they're capable of playing at. I just don't think they(clutch players) get rattled by the pressure which allows them to maintain focus and make accurate reads. Typically when a player "chokes" they force the issue. They get rattled, make a poor read, and force the ball. Players that are "clutch" are able to stay calm and play like it's the 1st quarter. In my opinion at least.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[mattsb84]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

Clutch!

Are we counting rape accusations for stats? I think Big Ben (and little ben) have a fairly good lead on the other two mentioned here and it's not fair for us to discount that.

But really, I'd take Manning with Brady a close second. Manning is just ridiculous. The way he commands his offense is a thing of beauty. I wouldn't put Big Ben in a conversation with either of these two yet.

[kingkilla56]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

Clutch!

Are we counting rape accusations for stats? I think Big Ben (and little ben) have a fairly good lead on the other two mentioned here and it's not fair for us to discount that.

But really, I'd take Manning with Brady a close second. Manning is just ridiculous. The way he commands his offense is a thing of beauty. I wouldn't put Big Ben in a conversation with either of these two yet.

Its getting tired.

[kingkilla56]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

McNabb is the king of coming up short.

I guess you're memory is pretty selective then. Like most philly people.

[HesTheCoach]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

I don't believe that players take it to another level or 'elevate their game' under pressure/clutch situations. They don't suddenly become better football players or throw more accurate passes. They play at the level they usually play at and what they're capable of playing at. I just don't think they(clutch players) get rattled by the pressure which allows them to maintain focus and make accurate reads. Typically when a player "chokes" they force the issue. They get rattled, make a poor read, and force the ball. Players that are "clutch" are able to stay calm and play like it's the 1st quarter. In my opinion at least.

That's probably the most accurate way to sum it up. Well done.

[Dog]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

I guess you're memory is pretty selective then. Like most philly people.

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[pittsburgher86]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

Ben makes the line look worse than it is.

How do you figure that? I'm a Steeler fan to the end. I watch every game. Sure Ben holds on to the ball a little to long sometimes. But a lot of the time the O-Line just misses blocks.

[Palo20]

How do you figure that? I'm a Steeler fan to the end. I watch every game. Sure Ben holds on to the ball a little to long sometimes. But a lot of the time the O-Line just misses blocks.

I watch the Steelers quite a bit as well. Ben holding onto the ball makes the line look worse. He takes more sacks and always seems to be under pressure. Brady and Manning get rid of the ball quicker. I just don't think the Steelers line is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I'm talking the last few years here too.

[lonewolf371]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

I watch the Steelers quite a bit as well. Ben holding onto the ball makes the line look worse. He takes more sacks and always seems to be under pressure. Brady and Manning get rid of the ball quicker. I just don't think the Steelers line is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I'm talking the last few years here too.

He makes them look awful. With a faster release they'd just look bad.

[z Revis]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

I watch the Steelers quite a bit as well. Ben holding onto the ball makes the line look worse. He takes more sacks and always seems to be under pressure. Brady and Manning get rid of the ball quicker. I just don't think the Steelers line is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I'm talking the last few years here too.

I also think playcalling has a bit to do with it. It seems like the Steelers call more intermediate/deep passing plays than a lot of teams which obviously takes longer to develop and could result in him being sacked. I could be off on that, but that's what it seems like. That could also explain why he has such a big yards per completion average(more than Brady and Manning).

Manning and Brady's ability to get rid of the ball so fast is a combination of the fact that they have amazing pocket awareness and they can read defenses and audible to another play so well. And, if what I said above is true, their offensive coordinator isn't an idiot like Bruce Arians.

[Chrisksaint]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

Yeah it seems like the Steelers call more long developing plays and pretty much rely on Big Ben buying time to make a deep throw, which is why imo his YPA is so high. Manning and Brady will get rid of the ball quickly when they see something, to avoid a sack,etc.

[Palo20]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

I also think playcalling has a bit to do with it. It seems like the Steelers call more intermediate/deep passing plays than a lot of teams which obviously takes longer to develop and could result in him being sacked. I could be off on that, but that's what it seems like. That could also explain why he has such a big yards per completion average(more than Brady and Manning).

Manning and Brady's ability to get rid of the ball so fast is a combination of the fact that they have amazing pocket awareness and they can read defenses and audible to another play so well. And, if what I said above is true, their offensive coordinator isn't an idiot like Bruce Arians.

Absolutely, that's a huge part of it too. Same thing happened with the Eagles this year. After years of 3 and 5 step drops, they completely changed what they did with Vick. They let him take a 7 step drop, drift around and find open WRs. Obviously this is much more difficult on the OLineman to have to block that long. The Steelers do very much the same thing.

[carnalnirvana]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

after this SB performance today, pleace dont mention Ben in the same sentence as brady or manning.

again

[Dog]

Re: Brady, P.Manning or Roethlisberger?

after this SB performance today, pleace dont mention Ben in the same sentence as brady or manning.

again

After one half? Overreaction Sports at its finest