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  • LambertandHam
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    • Jul 2010
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    #20236
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
    “Everybody wins in this deal,’’ Dolphins owner Stephen M. Ross said to reporters while leaving the meeting. ‘‘What about the fans of St. Louis?’’ he was asked. ‘‘Well, somebody has to lose,’’ Ross said.
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    • TheShizNo1
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      • Mar 2007
      • 26341

      #20237
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      So when this CTE stuff started coming out, I was in the "it's football crowd". Now after a year or two and seeing the guy from the Giants that didn't even have a long career end up like that I'm thinking; at what point doea football go away? It has to, right? There's no way to prevent hitting in the game so I don't see how else this issue gets taken care of

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      • ProfessaPackMan
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        • Mar 2008
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        #20238
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by TheShizNo1
        So when this CTE stuff started coming out, I was in the "it's football crowd". Now after a year or two and seeing the guy from the Giants that didn't even have a long career end up like that I'm thinking; at what point doea football go away? It has to, right? There's no way to prevent hitting in the game so I don't see how else this issue gets taken care of

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        At least 20 years away and even still, I don't think it's likely it goes away.

        Was watching "Friday Night Tykes" the other day and I seen Coaches there telling the kids "Go out there and knock their ***es out" and said to myself "Yeah, this ain't going nowhere no time soon".
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        • wwharton
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          • Aug 2002
          • 26949

          #20239
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by TheShizNo1
          So when this CTE stuff started coming out, I was in the "it's football crowd". Now after a year or two and seeing the guy from the Giants that didn't even have a long career end up like that I'm thinking; at what point doea football go away? It has to, right? There's no way to prevent hitting in the game so I don't see how else this issue gets taken care of

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          It's a fun discussion about football, but there was no misconception with boxing and IF we are going to say that's going away, it's only because of the popularity of a more violent sport in MMA. If you really look into the things people do to make money, you'll agree that the NFL isn't going anywhere for a very long time.

          It's a crime how uninformed players have been, and I'm glad we're getting more information. We may see more bow out of the league at an early age... maybe staggering numbers how many more we see do that. But that doesn't mean kids won't want to play.

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          • Jr.
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            • Feb 2003
            • 19171

            #20240
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by wwharton
            It's a fun discussion about football, but there was no misconception with boxing and IF we are going to say that's going away, it's only because of the popularity of a more violent sport in MMA. If you really look into the things people do to make money, you'll agree that the NFL isn't going anywhere for a very long time.

            It's a crime how uninformed players have been, and I'm glad we're getting more information. We may see more bow out of the league at an early age... maybe staggering numbers how many more we see do that. But that doesn't mean kids won't want to play.
            The real question is if it can remain as popular as it is currently. Will the most talented players decide to play football, or will they go to a much less physically debilitating game like basketball or baseball?

            Football may stick around, but I think the quality of athlete will start following a downward trend and the popularity will drop as a result. I also still believe lacrosse will supplant football eventually. It still has the physicality and athleticism, but overall is safer.
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            • TheShizNo1
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              • Mar 2007
              • 26341

              #20241
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              I disagree on MMA, though. You go though a 15-25 minute fight in which you get a concussion, and then you're suspended from competing for months. Football, you're getting that action everyday.

              I agree it doesn't happen anytime soon, but I feel like eventually you have to get rid of the game. Listening to Bomani Jones (someone get him to unblock me) about this topic and I was just thinking that you can't rid the game of this. You just can't. How many of these issues start in little league? Middle school? High school? Something has to change eventually. Do they get rid of football at the little league level? I just don't know what changes can be made to make that aspect of the game safer without changing it so much that it isn't football anymore.

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              • ggsimmonds
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                • Jan 2009
                • 11235

                #20242
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by Jr.
                The real question is if it can remain as popular as it is currently. Will the most talented players decide to play football, or will they go to a much less physically debilitating game like basketball or baseball?

                Football may stick around, but I think the quality of athlete will start following a downward trend and the popularity will drop as a result. I also still believe lacrosse will supplant football eventually. It still has the physicality and athleticism, but overall is safer.
                That is what I think may happen as well. Parents will keep their children away from football.

                Those children will play other sports as a result. Then follow the chain until it results in the NFL losing popularity. Would it ever completely go away? Perhaps, but I think that would be far down the road.

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                • Jr.
                  Playgirl Coverboy
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19171

                  #20243
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                  I disagree on MMA, though. You go though a 15-25 minute fight in which you get a concussion, and then you're suspended from competing for months. Football, you're getting that action everyday.

                  I agree it doesn't happen anytime soon, but I feel like eventually you have to get rid of the game. Listening to Bomani Jones (someone get him to unblock me) about this topic and I was just thinking that you can't rid the game of this. You just can't. How many of these issues start in little league? Middle school? High school? Something has to change eventually. Do they get rid of football at the little league level? I just don't know what changes can be made to make that aspect of the game safer without changing it so much that it isn't football anymore.

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                  There's a very little bit about this in an article on CTE from ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...tic-change-nfl

                  That's why dramatic change is needed from the lowest participation level on up in order to save football from itself. To reduce the number of blows absorbed by developing brains, a reasonable plan enacted by reasonable guardians would go something like this:
                  Outlaw tackling through eighth grade coast to coast. (Plenty of boys can have plenty of fun learning the game through the rules of flag football.) Spend freshman year in high school in full pads for practice-only drilling on the fundamentals of blocking and tackling conducted by coaches with proper training. Spend sophomore through senior years in full-contact junior varsity and varsity games and practices, giving players three years to attract interest from college programs if they so desire.
                  It's good in theory, but you need people teaching proper tackling technique and coaches that are good enough to communicate it. That's hard to find at that youth level sometimes.
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                  • PeoplesChampGB
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                    • May 2012
                    • 6003

                    #20244
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by Jr.
                    There's a very little bit about this in an article on CTE from ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...tic-change-nfl



                    It's good in theory, but you need people teaching proper tackling technique and coaches that are good enough to communicate it. That's hard to find at that youth level sometimes.
                    Sounds crazy, but I always thought having the safeties play so many yards to the line before the snap or even coning the top of the helmets would drastically reduce these hits.
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                    • ProfessaPackMan
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #20245
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      For those saying, they'll just go play other sports, remember that doesn't mean they appeal to other groups.

                      By that I mean Lacrosse isn't necessarily going to be for everybody just like Baseball isn't and just like Hockey isn't, etc, etc.

                      The only sports I can see that MAYBE has a chance of surpassing Football is Baseball(1st) and Basketball and we already see how it's a struggle to be successful(meaning having a long, productive career)in those sports. We already see guys that are 1st rd picks in the NBA and then 3 years later are out of the league playing overseas or whatever.
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                      • areobee401
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                        • Apr 2006
                        • 16771

                        #20246
                        NFL Off Topic

                        I could see soccer in the United States benefiting greatly from kids looking for a sport other than football to play.
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                        • TheShizNo1
                          Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 26341

                          #20247
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          For those saying, they'll just go play other sports, remember that doesn't mean they appeal to other groups.

                          By that I mean Lacrosse isn't necessarily going to be for everybody just like Baseball isn't and just like Hockey isn't, etc, etc.

                          The only sports I can see that MAYBE has a chance of surpassing Football is Baseball(1st) and Basketball and we already see how it's a struggle to be successful(meaning having a long, productive career)in those sports. We already see guys that are 1st rd picks in the NBA and then 3 years later are out of the league playing overseas or whatever.
                          I think you'd be surprised how much LaCrosse is growing for the youth. Idk if it'll overtake football, but I think it'll definitely blow up in youth sports sometime soon.

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                          • Jr.
                            Playgirl Coverboy
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 19171

                            #20248
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                            I think you'd be surprised how much LaCrosse is growing for the youth. Idk if it'll overtake football, but I think it'll definitely blow up in youth sports sometime soon.

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                            It's exploded out here. With the success that DU has had and having two pro teams in Denver, it's closing in on football in terms of popularity locally, and potentially throughout the state.
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                            • areobee401
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                              • Apr 2006
                              • 16771

                              #20249
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Problem is lacrosse can be expensive to play.
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                              • jb12780
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                                • Oct 2008
                                • 10665

                                #20250
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Rugby is another contact sport that is growing here in the States.

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