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[dubcity]

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Eli is completing 62% of his passes with a 14/7 TD to INT ratio on an awful team. Every time I watch the Giants he is getting planted on his backside due to the awful offensive line and he has some guys off the street playing WR. Sure, the Giants should maybe move on for their own future, but Eli Manning isn't the reason the Giants suck. IMO, he's been one of their better performers this year.

First Tyrod Taylor and now this. Damn.

[Blzer]

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Yea my guess is Denver or Jacksonville.

I personally thought of Arizona, though he doesn't really fit a west coast offense style.

Any chance he stays in New York (Jets or Bills)?

[bigeastbumrush]

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I personally thought of Arizona, though he doesn't really fit a west coast offense style.

Any chance he stays in New York (Jets or Bills)?

No way.

My best guess would be in Jacksonville.

[ggsimmonds]

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That must have been one HELLUVA training camp. Which would be all the more bizarre because Savage was benched 30 minutes into the season.

There aren't many ways to analyze this and have O'Brien come out looking competent.

I know the job of HC isn't easy but we can acknowledge that and still be critical when they look clueless.

Regardless of who looked better when, pulling your starter in the first game of the regular season is never a good look, so on that O'Brien looked clueless.

But on the broader topic of him ever thinking Savage was the better option than Watson I'm willing to give him a pass.

[TracerBullet]

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Eli is completing 62% of his passes with a 14/7 TD to INT ratio on an awful team. Every time I watch the Giants he is getting planted on his backside due to the awful offensive line and he has some guys off the street playing WR. Sure, the Giants should maybe move on for their own future, but Eli Manning isn't the reason the Giants suck. IMO, he's been one of their better performers this year.

Eli has completed 57% of his passes in games without Beckham. Take out the Niners game and that goes down to 52.5%. The only thing he's improved on since that game is lowering the amount of interceptions. Not saying he's the only cause for their woes, but he's not helping. Being the best of a bunch of bad players doesn't make you good. Might as well see what you got, because he's likely not in New York's future plans regardless of what happens to McAdoo and Reese. It's absolutely the right call to bench him in this case. I'd still go with Webb though.

I personally thought of Arizona, though he doesn't really fit a west coast offense style.

Any chance he stays in New York (Jets or Bills)?

I believe that Tyrod Taylor would be a target for Arizona, contingent on him being a free agent after this year of course.

[SPTO]

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I don't think Eli is completely the problem in NY but it's a combination of some decline, tons of injuries to the skill players and a coach who is clearly in over his head. (Ray Handley 2.0 anyone?) This is definitely not the way Eli would want his career with the Giants to end but sometimes you can't get a happy ending.

It's even money that he goes to Denver or JAX and I'd probably lean toward JAX simply because of the Coughlin factor and an offense that would fit his game more.

[areobee401]

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You are correct, but at if the top WR felt the same way and made the same observations, then maybe O'Brien is not clueless and Savage's play in training camp was superior to Watson's.

What the top WR said publicly (whether we should put any stock in public depth chart talk made by a player is up for debate) does nothing to absolve O’Brien of the choice made at QB and how things unfolded from there. One is paid to evaluate talent, while the other for catching passes.

[steelerfan]

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What about Eli to Cleveland with his brother as part of the ownership group. [emoji16][emoji6]

Regardless of who looked better when, pulling your starter in the first game of the regular season is never a good look, so on that O'Brien looked clueless.

But on the broader topic of him ever thinking Savage was the better option than Watson I'm willing to give him a pass.

I give BOB a bit of a pass because I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he probably didn't want to start a rookie on opening day. I'm guessing he wanted to bring him along at a slower pace but Savage was so awful he had to speed it up. I seriously doubt that BOB thought Savage would be the guy all year. Most everyone here in Houston believed Watson would be starting before midseason.

[mestevo]

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@NFLfootballinfo
Appeals officer Derrick Brooks reduced suspension of Michael Crabtree from 2 games to 1 game. Appeals officer James Thrash reduced suspension of Aqib Talib from 2 games to 1 game. Brooks & Thrash jointly appointed by NFL &NFLPA

[slickdtc]

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I don't think Eli is completely the problem in NY but it's a combination of some decline, tons of injuries to the skill players and a coach who is clearly in over his head. (Ray Handley 2.0 anyone?) This is definitely not the way Eli would want his career with the Giants to end but sometimes you can't get a happy ending.

Well said. I was surprised to see so many guys mad that Eli got benched, but this is one of those classic “it’s a business” moves. But somehow they bungled it by going to Geno and not the young QB Webb. They’re clearly half in on this rebuild thing they got going on.

Anyway, I like that prediction of Denver as his next landing spot. Let me throw out a wild one: he stays in New York. The owners fire the **** out of McAdoo and probssibly Reese, make amends with Eli and go all in on a Super Bowl run spending money they probably don’t have on free agents. Does it work? Hell no but it was a heck of a run...

[ggsimmonds]

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@NFLfootballinfo
Appeals officer Derrick Brooks reduced suspension of Michael Crabtree from 2 games to 1 game. Appeals officer James Thrash reduced suspension of Aqib Talib from 2 games to 1 game. Brooks & Thrash jointly appointed by NFL &NFLPA

Does anyone else find it shady that suspensions are handed down with the apparent intent to reduce them upon appeal?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Well, they’re being handled by Independent Review with people being paid by the league and the players as well.

It’s certainly better than the alternative in letting Goodell handle these as well, especially with the awesome job he’s been doing in that regard.


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[SPTO]

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@NFLfootballinfo
Appeals officer Derrick Brooks reduced suspension of Michael Crabtree from 2 games to 1 game. Appeals officer James Thrash reduced suspension of Aqib Talib from 2 games to 1 game. Brooks & Thrash jointly appointed by NFL &NFLPA

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The Pontiac Silverdome is finally coming down this Sunday.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/former-nfl-stadium-pontiac-silverdome-implosion-set-for-sunday-morning

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[TracerBullet]

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The Pontiac Silverdome is finally coming down this Sunday.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/former-nfl-stadium-pontiac-silverdome-implosion-set-for-sunday-morning

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