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[slickdtc]

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Minnesota awarded Super Bowl LII 2018.

[Bellsprout]

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If you can't ever win it ever not even once, host it I guess.

[TripleCrown9]

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If you can't ever win it ever not even once, host it I guess.

Detroit has no idea what you're talking about.

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And technically Minnesota's been there, done that.

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And I believe San Diego has hosted the most Super Bowls without the city having it's own champion. Then Atlanta.

[areobee401]

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More than 600 retired NFL players -- including Ricky Watters and Roger Craig -- have teamed up to sue NFL Films ... claiming they're sick of watching the company exploit old NFL footage without paying the players a cent.
TMZ Sports has obtained the lawsuit filed in Pennsylvania ... in which the ex-NFL players (and estates of some deceased players) claim they never agreed to allow NFL Films to use footage featuring their images for free forever.

In fact, the players -- which also includes Raghib "The Rocket" Ismail and Kyle Brady -- argue their names and images have extremely high value and they should be compensated if NFL Films decides to use footage in commercials, TV shows and other programming.

But NFL Films has fired back -- arguing that the players signed away the rights to use their names and images in the footage shot during their playing days when they signed their NFL contracts.

NFL Films is asking the judge to throw out the case -- and demanding the players fork over the dough for attorneys' fees.

The matter is slated to go before a judge in the near future.

Sounds like a giant waste of time.

[wwharton]

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Sounds like a giant waste of time.

I think it is, only because I'm pretty sure NFL Films is right. There were similar cases with players releasing their names for video games (like Madden). If I remember correctly, Lavar Arrington was one who didn't have his name in the game his rookie year because of a dispute somewhat related to this. At the end of the day, once the players sign over their name the NFL can use it whenever/wherever they see fit.

[Jr.]

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NFL may be in some trouble over this. NFL illegally supplying pain meds to players. Now some of this is the players doing it themselves, but some is definitely the team members supplying the drugs. I'm not sure what will come of this. The teams/NFL could have to pay, but the players are admitting that they committed crimes also.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...rs-allege-suit

Man, if this has merit, that's a(nother) huge black eye for the NFL

[TheTruth437]

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Then Atlanta.

Speaking of Atlanta, recent history suggests that Atlanta will host Super Bowl Llll in 2019. NFL owners seem to like awarding cities and teams that build new stadiums that are first-year eligible in the Super Bowl selection process.

[SPTO]

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NFL may be in some trouble over this. NFL illegally supplying pain meds to players. Now some of this is the players doing it themselves, but some is definitely the team members supplying the drugs. I'm not sure what will come of this. The teams/NFL could have to pay, but the players are admitting that they committed crimes also.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...rs-allege-suit

Damn,

This just shows how much of a toll football takes on guys and the fact that the league takes such a cavalier attitude about it is just disgusting. If there's smoke where there's fire here than the NFL is looking at a HUGE black eye in prestige and just in how they treat the players that this game is built on.

[slickdtc]

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Damn,

This just shows how much of a toll football takes on guys and the fact that the league takes such a cavalier attitude about it is just disgusting. If there's smoke where there's fire here than the NFL is looking at a HUGE black eye in prestige and just in how they treat the players that this game is built on.

Yeah, I think this is a HUGE deal. These type of drugs are extremely addictive and extremely harmful. This is like steroids... on steroids.

Maybe not as much nowadays, but I know I've read stories where players say the training staffs handed painkillers out like candy.

The NFL Films stuff is ridiculous. I get it, it's your property/name... But that's taking it too far. You were compensated. Stop trying to make even more money off this.

[kingkilla56]

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Pro Football Focus' top 101 players list. Some interesting rankings, seeing some guys over others I wouldnt have expected. Like TY Hilton over AJ Green
The full list

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10-1

1. J.J. Watt
2. Robert Quinn
3. Peyton Manning
4. Gerald McCoy
5. Lavonte David
6. Richard Sherman
7. Evan Mathis
8. Lesean McCoy
9. Andrew Whitworth
10. Marshawn Lynch

20–11

11. Jamaal Charles
12. Joe Thomas
13. Jimmy Graham
14. Robert Mathis
15. Trent Williams
16. Michael Bennett
17. Ndamukong Suh
18. Darrelle Revis
19. Calais Campbell
20. Earl Thomas

30–21

21. Justin Houston
22. Devin McCourty
23. Brent Grimes
24. Patrick Willis
25. Josh Sitton
26. Kyle D. Williams
27. Jurrell Casey
28. Kam Chancellor
29. Marcell Dareus
30. Dontari Poe

40–31

31. NaVorro Bowman
32. Brandon Marshall
33. Antonio Brown
34. Jason Peters
35. Calvin Johnson
36. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
37. Eric Berry
38. Adrian L. Peterson
39. Jordy Nelson
40. Cameron Jordan

50–41

41. Greg Hardy
42. Jordan Gross
43. Philip Rivers
44. Tyron Smith
45. Louis Vasquez
46. Cameron Wake
47. Anquan Boldin
48. Russell Wilson
49. Keenan Lewis
50. Terrance Knighton

60–51

51. Andre Johnson
52. Thomas Davis
53. DeMaryius Thomas
54. Joe Staley
55. Randy Starks
56. Brandon Mebane
57. Tamba Hali
58. Patrick Peterson
59. Karlos Dansby
60. Drew Brees

70–61

61. Donte Whitner
62. Stephen Tulloch
63. Keenan Allen
64. Chris Harris Jr.
65. Aldon Smith
66. Jason Hatcher
67. Larry Warford
68. Von Miller
69. Elvis Dumervil
70. Eddie Lacy

80-71

71. Nate Solder
72. Derrick O. Johnson
73. Alshon Jeffery
74. Josh Gordon
75. Joe Haden
76. DeMarco Murray
77. Brian Orakpo
78. Jason Kelce
79. Desmond Trufant
80. Luke Kuechly

90–81

81. Sheldon Richardson
82. Alex Mack
83. Michael D. Johnson
84. Tyrann Mathieu
85. Vontaze Burfict
86. Will Hill
87. John Sullivan
88. Trent Cole
89. DeSean Jackson
90. Tom Brady

101–91

91. Damon Harrison
92. T.Y. Hilton
93. Alterraun Verner
94. Cliff Avril
95. Troy Polamalu
96. Eric Weddle
97. A.J. Green
98. Phil Loadholt
99. Jake Long
100. T.J. Ward
101. Marques Colston

[coogrfan]

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Aaron Rodgers isn't one of the top 101 players in the league? Russell "game manager" Wilson is a better qb than Drew Brees or Tom Brady? Seriously?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Aaron Rodgers isn't one of the top 101 players in the league? Russell "game manager" Wilson is a better qb than Drew Brees or Tom Brady? Seriously?

I think it's based on last season only, not overall.

[coogrfan]

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I think it's based on last season only, not overall.

I get that, and I don't care. This list is complete and utter nonsense.

I used to wonder if the metric-obsessed folks at PFF ever sat down and actually watched a game. Based on this, it's clear that they haven't.

[slickdtc]

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A lot of QB's seemed to be missing from the list, or maybe I skipped over them. I gave the list a quick glance up and down.

It seemed ... off. I get that it's based on advanced metrics, which I'm not sure what a bunch even mean. But it's almost like they wanted this list to shock with some players over others.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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I'm pretty sure the first post in the series notes that they weren't going to be making any adjustments for positional value.

The list is surprising. The problem is a lot of the stats/formulas are behind a pay wall so people see the list and go "OMG... metrics are stupid" because PFF doesn't really explain anything. They just go "trust us" and that's more of a problem than the metrics themselves. Metrics need transparency.

I get that, and I don't care. This list is complete and utter nonsense.

I used to wonder if the metric-obsessed folks at PFF ever sat down and actually watched a game. Based on this, it's clear that they haven't.

I'm willing to bet a lot of money that they watch more game tape than you. And actual game tape, not the TV broadcast that only shows where the ball goes.