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[mestevo]

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Job security, contract escalators?

[TheShizNo1]

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Job security, contract escalators?

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[coogrfan]

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That sounds like pure robbery. Once I player catches onto the whole superbowls <<< making money while you can, why would they waste games of their career getting paid nothing?

Any player who thinks that way isn't worth having on a roster in the first place.

[mestevo]

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You're right, why would anyone want to play in the playoffs. It doesn't make any sense.

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[dsallupinyaarea]

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Any player who thinks that way isn't worth having on a roster in the first place.

This is based on nothing but pure speculation:

But I think we'd be surprised by how many players view this as just a job. We, and the media, add all the story telling and extra meaning.

[kingkilla56]

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Any player who thinks that way isn't worth having on a roster in the first place.

LOLno. Id bet most players are interested in performing for their contract situations waaaaaaay more than winning your favorite team a championship. Playing to win is a nice way of masking the real goal though for sure.

You're right, why would anyone want to play in the playoffs. It doesn't make any sense.

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Guys making 15+mil per year, cashing hundreds of thousands dollar game checks only getting paid a fraction of their value because playoffs is lol worthy, thats robbery. The broke players have more to play for for sure.

[TheShizNo1]

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Didn't Curtis Martin, the HOF RB, say he viewed it as just a job?

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[kehlis]

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LOLno. Id bet most players are interested in performing for their contract situations waaaaaaay more than winning your favorite team a championship. Playing to win is a nice way of masking the real goal though for sure.

Most of the players who impact the games have contracts that give them nice kickers for winning Super Bowls.

[kingkilla56]

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Most of the players who impact the games have contracts that give them nice kickers for winning Super Bowls.

Sucks for the guys who dont win the SB then.

Btw I dont mean to say that the players couldnt care less about winning in general. Im just saying they are getting robbed for each playoff game they play for a small fraction of their actual value, while their team is making bank for the same work.

How can I get paid a million bucks per game for 16 weeks, then 22k for the same (if not more stressful) work in the playoffs? But if I get to and win the SB, I'll get a cute bonus, which only a couple of us on the team will get. Idk man sounds messed up lol.

[kehlis]

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Yea I don't disagree. I think players should get the same game check in the playoffs that they get in the season.

But there is plenty of motivation to win in the playoffs. There are more kickers than just winning the Super Bowl but to your larger point that's still not the same for everyone.

[ImTellinTim]

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These guys don't go into a contract negotiation saying I want X per game. They negotiate a season's salary knowing full well that it could include anywhere from 20 to 24 games (including preseason). They also know that their yearly salary will likely be split into 17 weekly checks (I don't know if the CBA allows leeway on how a team splits the yearly salary). If a player is smart with how they invest, they should want their yearly salary as early as possible. I don't see what the big deal is.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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If you had given 21/22 year old me 7 figures in a lump sum, I'd have been out the league before week 10.

[mestevo]

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Base salary is split into 17 game checks, bonuses (signing, roster, etc) are paid when negotiated/due, playoffs are just more game checks with terms dictated by CBA.

For anyone it's important to they could dictate bonuses to compensate for 'low' playoff pay in their contracts. Average salary as of a couple of years ago was $1.9m including the top half of the roster making much more than that, so the chance at a wildcard through super bowl berth equating to playing under a ~900k contract isn't as bad as it may seem.

The 'bank' teams make otherwise is split with the players also, about half of every dollar in revenue is what goes back into the salary cap.

[Bmore Irish]

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This is based on nothing but pure speculation:

But I think we'd be surprised by how many players view this as just a job. We, and the media, add all the story telling and extra meaning.

I wouldn't be surprised at all. How many times do we see a guy have his best season in years during a contract year? I find the idea of a hometown discount to be pretty fake too, these guys have extremely short-lived careers, gotta make the most while you can.

I'm sure there are dudes who love football and love playing it, but I'd imagine even the greats aren't doing it for team success per se, but for their legacy. I think the guys who put in all the extra work and grind more than everyone else are doing it because they want to one day be known as the best to play the game.

[mestevo]

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I wouldn't be surprised at all. How many times do we see a guy have his best season in years during a contract year? I find the idea of a hometown discount to be pretty fake too, these guys have extremely short-lived careers, gotta make the most while you can.

I'm sure there are dudes who love football and love playing it, but I'd imagine even the greats aren't doing it for team success per se, but for their legacy. I think the guys who put in all the extra work and grind more than everyone else are doing it because they want to one day be known as the best to play the game.

Yeah, I'm not sure many would disagree with that. I said 'job security, escalators' with the intention of suggesting that if you help a team be successful you're more likely to be retained, the team is less likely to implode, your life will be easier because you don't have new coordinators every other year, etc. if you're going through the motions that only matters so long anyways because those guys are gone within a few years unless they're very talented. Escalators was then hit on by others, as if this is an important point then it will be negotiated in their contract.