Re: NFL Off Topic
I don't disagree with you, I was basically just steering my own conversation about the intrinsic and extrinsic motivations of playing, despite the conversation having moved on about the playoff pay.
So let me take this time to again manipulate the conversation into what I like talking about.
You mentioned job security and the team being less likely to implode; I wonder how much of the "playing for the guy beside you" or your coach is genuine. I don't find it that hard to believe.
Look at Rex Ryan, and how it's always said how his players love playing for him. It could be dismissed as media/fan talk or whatever, but these guys are human, and if you like someone, or maybe even if you don't, you don't wanna see them lose their job. I'm sure some of these guys at least feel somewhat responsible when their play on the field is part of the problem.
I remember that video of the Jets locker room going nuts at the end of last season when they found out Ryan was gonna be back. Or the run the Ravens made in 2012 in Ray Lewis's last season.
Basically, to contradict myself a bit from my last post, I believe there has to be some level of playing for more than just yourself (e.g. a paycheck or legacy/reputation). There's a stark difference between guys like Mike Wallace and Dez Bryant.
I don't disagree with you, I was basically just steering my own conversation about the intrinsic and extrinsic motivations of playing, despite the conversation having moved on about the playoff pay.
So let me take this time to again manipulate the conversation into what I like talking about.
You mentioned job security and the team being less likely to implode; I wonder how much of the "playing for the guy beside you" or your coach is genuine. I don't find it that hard to believe.
Look at Rex Ryan, and how it's always said how his players love playing for him. It could be dismissed as media/fan talk or whatever, but these guys are human, and if you like someone, or maybe even if you don't, you don't wanna see them lose their job. I'm sure some of these guys at least feel somewhat responsible when their play on the field is part of the problem.
I remember that video of the Jets locker room going nuts at the end of last season when they found out Ryan was gonna be back. Or the run the Ravens made in 2012 in Ray Lewis's last season.
Basically, to contradict myself a bit from my last post, I believe there has to be some level of playing for more than just yourself (e.g. a paycheck or legacy/reputation). There's a stark difference between guys like Mike Wallace and Dez Bryant.
It's like telling a joke and receiving silence from your crowd, then you have to explain the joke and by that point you're done.
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