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[cjonesfan921]

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The structure of the contract doesn’t make much sense. Most of these large deals have very little as salary in year 1.


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[slickdtc]

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@JeffDarlington

I'm told NFL is appealing for an indefinite suspension that would be a minimum of one year. But perhaps more significant given the structure of Watson's contract, source tells me the NFL's appeal will also include a monetary fine. Money is now a significant part of the equation.

I just read that the NFL will be appealing the suspension to... themselves. They’re not going to arbitration with a third party. The league, specifically Goodell, will decide if they want to make it a longer suspension and I guess impose a monetary fine as well.

So what was the point of an independent judge issuing a ruling if the plaintiff (NFL) can appeal and issue their own judgement?

Sounds like it can then be fought over in court, but the CBA language says the NFL’s rulings are full, final and complete. And by the time it’s sorted out, the season could be over. I’m sure Watson would go to the exempt list while it’s being dragged out — effectively being sidelined for the year, which is what the NFL is pushing for anyway. Plus if they don’t consider time he’s sat out in the meantime as time served.

If this is really how it goes down, I echo CM Hooe’s sentiments that it appeared nice the NFLPA had some form of say in protecting its members from the NFL’s broad power of determining fines and suspension. Now it appears it was just window dressing. The NFL will bring the hammer down once it gauges how well the terms were accepted by the league, players, media, and public. House wins.

[steelerfan]

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I just read that the NFL will be appealing the suspension to... themselves. They’re not going to arbitration with a third party. The league, specifically Goodell, will decide if they want to make it a longer suspension and I guess impose a monetary fine as well.

So what was the point of an independent judge issuing a ruling if the plaintiff (NFL) can appeal and issue their own judgement?

Sounds like it can then be fought over in court, but the CBA language says the NFL’s rulings are full, final and complete. And by the time it’s sorted out, the season could be over. I’m sure Watson would go to the exempt list while it’s being dragged out — effectively being sidelined for the year, which is what the NFL is pushing for anyway. Plus if they don’t consider time he’s sat out in the meantime as time served.

If this is really how it goes down, I echo CM Hooe’s sentiments that it appeared nice the NFLPA had some form of say in protecting its members from the NFL’s broad power of determining fines and suspension. Now it appears it was just window dressing. The NFL will bring the hammer down once it gauges how well the terms were accepted by the league, players, media, and public. House wins.

If Watson appeals Goodell's ruling, an injunction will likely be placed on the suspension meaning Watson can play until it plays itself out in court.

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[slickdtc]

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Yeah, I forgot there was drama between Houston and Watson before all the allegations hit. I was thinking they had him sit out to avoid the distraction of the allegations. I imagine CLE considered a scenario like this and determined it was worth the media frenzy with no added drama between team and player like there was in Houston.

[dubcity]

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I'm rooting for worst case for Cleveland, because why not?

[slickdtc]

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Goodell appointed a separate entity to hear the NFL’s appeal. Former AG of NJ, he’s worked closely with the league and is currently on the league’s diversity advisory committee. I’m glad they didn’t decide to hear their own appeal, though you could say there’s pretty obvious conflicts of interest with the person they picked. Makes me think the suspension will be increased, but not to the “indefinite” limit the league allegedly was pushing for.

In other news, there’s live football tonight...

[zello144]

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I'm rooting for worst case for Cleveland, because why not?

The Baker Mayfield curse

Should have never traded him

[kehlis]

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The Baker Mayfield curse

Should have never traded him

He wasn't going to play for them again and he made no secret of that. What other choice did they have?

[p_rushing]

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The structure of the contract doesn’t make much sense. Most of these large deals have very little as salary in year 1.


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His contract was structured very wisely to try and avoid the suspension he knew he was going to get. He is losing very little this year, even if he is suspended for the whole season. Basically the deal was written as this year he would be suspended and he didn't want to lose any salary.

Makes me think the suspension will be increased, but not to the “indefinite” limit the league allegedly was pushing for.

In other news, there’s live football tonight...

The indefinite suspension is just a 1 year suspension in the NFL. I think there are some rules about going beyond 1 year. The indefinite part just means you have to apply for reinstatement into the league again. If you don't apply, then your suspension continues indefinitely. His contract would stay on the books but not be paid until he was granted reinstatement.

The Jags have 1 or 2 players that are still technically suspended (unless the league has removed/retired them) but they don't owe them anything and contract was frozen.

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[Jr.]

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His contract was structured very wisely to try and avoid the suspension he knew he was going to get. He is losing very little this year, even if he is suspended for the whole season. Basically the deal was written as this year he would be suspended and he didn't want to lose any salary.

It would be pretty funny if this goes to court, Watson plays out this year, then it's ruled he's suspended for a year starting in 2023 and he loses his yearly salary next year instead of whatever it would've been this year.

[The Chef]

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His contract was structured very wisely to try and avoid the suspension he knew he was going to get. He is losing very little this year, even if he is suspended for the whole season. Basically the deal was written as this year he would be suspended and he didn't want to lose any salary.



The indefinite suspension is just a 1 year suspension in the NFL. I think there are some rules about going beyond 1 year. The indefinite part just means you have to apply for reinstatement into the league again. If you don't apply, then your suspension continues indefinitely. His contract would stay on the books but not be paid until he was granted reinstatement.

The Jags have 1 or 2 players that are still technically suspended (unless the league has removed/retired them) but they don't owe them anything and contract was frozen.

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I had read that if he was suspended for the season he lost a year of service time and in effect his contract didn't start until he came back where as if he was only suspended for part of the season, ie. 6 games, then the contract would start this upcoming season so they've been pushing to keep it to under a full season for that reason. Naturally I can't find the article that mentioned it but I know I read it awhile back

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[zello144]

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Annual Massage therapist conference is being held in Cleveland this year

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/cleveland_hosting_annual_massage_conference_amid_deshaun_watson_controversy/s1_13132_37743289

Bro...

[bigbob]

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Annual Massage therapist conference is being held in Cleveland this year

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/cleveland_hosting_annual_massage_conference_amid_deshaun_watson_controversy/s1_13132_37743289

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New resident of Cleveland WeShaun Datson at the Conference.

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[Madden08PCgmr]

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New resident of Cleveland WeShaun Datson at the Conference.

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Channeling his Ron Mexico.

Well played.

[Jeevan Pacheco]

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Hahahah...it is really funny)))