Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

[wwharton]

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I'm not seeing what Jim Brown's career has to do with his comments anyway. I don't get when people try to discredit Dilfer based on his career. Analyzing these players is a completely different job. You can disagree with what he's saying, but your opinion isn't more or less valid based on what the man did on the field in the 60's. Maybe if we looked at the results of other players he's evaluated. He's been pretty high on Peterson from the start. I personally don't have any other examples, but if we're going to criticize him, that's the direction we should be going with it.

[AUChase]

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We haven't seen Richardson play yet, but as far as running backs go and evaluating them, while coming from the college game, Richardson is about as good as it gets. He's a power runner with great field vision.. + AP plays for the Vikings. I wonder how he would have felt from the start, if he was drafted by the Browns..

I think that's why most people think Brown's ego has gotten in the way with these comments. If Richardson comes out and has a great rookie season and Brown gives the guy credit and says he was wrong, then will we even be having this conversation anymore ? It's just one man's opinion..

[Cusefan]

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As a Syracuse fan, I am supposed to like Jim Brown but he certainly does not make it easy. That being said, Jim Brown put up ridiculous numbers while only playing 9 games a season and he probably had the biggest bullseye on his jersey that anyone has ever had.

I personally don't think Jim Brown was the best Football player ever, but I will award him as the best Lacrosse player ever.

[TheShizNo1]

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Yeah Warner was also 28 when he got his first full season as a starter.

I agree, Richardson is the best back to come out since Peterson, hope he can live up to the hype and help put the Browns on the map, its been a pretty miserable existence as a Browns fan since their return in 1999 with only two semi decent seasons.

Warner also spent time before that on an NFL roster, in the AFL, and NFL Europe. Not tearing up Big Twelve kids where defense is optional.

I'm the only one that somewhat agrees w/ Brown? This best RB prospect since AP, well aside from the 2008 draft, there just haven't been that many top RB prospects to begin with. The guy is good damn good, but I just don't see what everyone else sees. Ingram put up numbers, and the guy behind Richardson looked nice when he got touches. Saban appears to have a mini Shanahan system over there.

[da ThRONe]

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Warner also spent time before that on an NFL roster, in the AFL, and NFL Europe. Not tearing up Big Twelve kids where defense is optional.

I'm the only one that somewhat agrees w/ Brown? This best RB prospect since AP, well aside from the 2008 draft, there just haven't been that many top RB prospects to begin with. The guy is good damn good, but I just don't see what everyone else sees. Ingram put up numbers, and the guy behind Richardson looked nice when he got touches. Saban appears to have a mini Shanahan system over there.

Stats in college are pretty useless when your're evaluting talent. His skill set is far beyond that of an Ingram or Lacy.

[TheShizNo1]

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Stats in college are pretty useless when your're evaluting talent. His skill set is far beyond that of an Ingram or Lacy.

Seriously? I know that. The offense still produced w/ the guy before him and will produce w/ the guy after him. I remember watching AP, like "WOW!" at Oklahoma. Watching Richardson, was more like "That was pretty sweet". Now, I'm saying he's still good, I just don't get the magnitude of the hype he's gotten.

[da ThRONe]

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Seriously? I know that. The offense still produced w/ the guy before him and will produce w/ the guy after him. I remember watching AP, like "WOW!" at Oklahoma. Watching Richardson, was more like "That was pretty sweet". Now, I'm saying he's still good, I just don't get the magnitude of the hype he's gotten.

Fair enough. I thought you were attempting to minimize Richardson's skill based on Ingram's and Lacy's success. If Trent doesn't WOW you then I can understand your position.

[jth1331]

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Seriously? I know that. The offense still produced w/ the guy before him and will produce w/ the guy after him. I remember watching AP, like "WOW!" at Oklahoma. Watching Richardson, was more like "That was pretty sweet". Now, I'm saying he's still good, I just don't get the magnitude of the hype he's gotten.

First off, OP is downgrading Brown a lot in this thread. lol at the mention Brown just got his yards from all the rushing attempts. Whatever.

Now, this statement, you are comparing one of the best RB prospects of this generation in Adrian Peterson. I'm an OU Alumn, and watched Peterson play, and was in shock and awe at what he could do.
Richardson I'm iffy about to be honest because of how RB's are these days. Drafting one high means he has to be a stud, top 5 RB in the NFL.

[TheShizNo1]

First off, OP is downgrading Brown a lot in this thread. lol at the mention Brown just got his yards from all the rushing attempts. Whatever.

Now, this statement, you are comparing one of the best RB prospects of this generation in Adrian Peterson. I'm an OU Alumn, and watched Peterson play, and was in shock and awe at what he could do.
Richardson I'm iffy about to be honest because of how RB's are these days. Drafting one high means he has to be a stud, top 5 RB in the NFL.

I'm comparing him to AP b/c that is the bar it seems everyone else has set for him. Best RB prospect since AP. And that's what I'm saying, you knew AP was going to be the man. He looked absolutely like a man amongst boys. Richardson, I don't get that.

[OSUFan_88]

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Wait, Richardson didn't look like a man among boys in College?

[TheShizNo1]

Wait, Richardson didn't look like a man among boys in College?

Not in a way that makes me put him on the same level of AP coming out.

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

Richardson looked like he was toying with people in college

[TheShizNo1]

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I'm NOT saying he isn't good. Just saying there's a difference.

[slickdtc]

He wasn't like AP on college, but he is the best RB prospect SINCE. Besides, though we all agree AP has had a great career so far, even he has room for improvement. I think Richardson does everything so well, including AP's weakness of ball security, which is why I believe he's about as surefire of a pick as they come. Only injuries will derail him.

[SuperChargers]

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Brown also said he wasn’t impressed with Mark Ingram, the Saints’ first-round draft pick last year, and he suggested that if Richardson couldn’t start ahead of Ingram when they both played at Alabama, that means Richardson can’t be better than Ingram.

Well Brown's analysis seems off if he thinks Richardson can't be better just because he sat behind a guy in college for a year.

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