Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

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If Jim Brown Says that Trent Richardson Is average then who are any of us to question that? Jim Brown is the Greatest back to ever play the game of Football I'm pretty sure he knows what he is talking about regardless of how large his ego is.

[Kanobi]

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AP runs like a new version of Walter Payton which is what made/makes him truly special. Personally, I never got the sense i was watching a truly "special" runner when I watched Richardson at Bama.

[jvalverde88]

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If Jim Brown Says that Trent Richardson Is average then who are any of us to question that? Jim Brown is the Greatest back to ever play the game of Football I'm pretty sure he knows what he is talking about regardless of how large his ego is.

Not all great athletes were good evaluators of talent *cough*Jordan*cough*

So if Jim Brown says Peyton Manning is a below average QB, we're supposed to take his word as gospel?

[DukeC]

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Not all great athletes were good evaluators of talent *cough*Jordan*cough*

So if Jim Brown says Peyton Manning is a below average QB, we're supposed to take his word as gospel?

Unlike Richardson, Peyton has accomplishments that cannot be denied. He's dominated the league for well over a decade in terms of just absolutely destroying defenses when they KNEW the pass was coming.

I'd say his evalution is fine till Richardson proves otherwise.

[azdawgpound]

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why does he keep bringing this back up he said if few months back and now again if thats all he has say maybe he best keep his lips shut if all he can do is repeat the same thing over. lmao @ him saying we shoulda drafted a couple wr's so ok say we draft the wr's? we had no running backs that can carry the load like richardson so wed throw ball and what? punt on 4th down?lol. we finally get a back that we had past up before like peterson and now we have a former back saying hes nothing special?

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

Who the hell cares what Jim Brown thinks. Just because he was a great player doesn't mean he can evaluate talent. We can revist this after Richardsons first season because I'm sure someone will bump this thread just to say I told you so.

[lonewolf371]

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If Jim Brown Says that Trent Richardson Is average then who are any of us to question that? Jim Brown is the Greatest back to ever play the game of Football I'm pretty sure he knows what he is talking about regardless of how large his ego is.

I think many athletes are terrible evaluators of talent. Keep in mind that Jim Brown's career path of choice consisted of him getting his noggin knocked around for nine years.

[wheelman990]

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I'm a Browns fan and respect the hell out of what Brown did for us back in the day.

That being said, he's a bitter old man now, who didn't even acknowledge when his own rushing records fell (first by Payton, then by Emmett)

He's known to just genuinely hate the world. Like the grouchy old man in your neighborhood who cusses at everybody passing by.

So I really don't care what he has to say. He still sounds like the bitter old man who has trouble accepting his time has long passed.

Need I remind everyone he retired in his prime to pursue a movie career? So in actuality, besides being known as one of the greatest RB's in history, he did nothing for Cleveland. (I don't think Richardson has acting in his sights...)

I have a video with Jim Brown talking about how good he thought Barry Sanders was. The words unparalleled were used to describe some of his ability's if I remember correctly.

Maybe he just doesn't like the other backs? Everyones opinions are different.

[Maine6054]

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If Jim Brown Says that Trent Richardson Is average then who are any of us to question that? Jim Brown is the Greatest back to ever play the game of Football I'm pretty sure he knows what he is talking about regardless of how large his ego is.

so your telling me just because someone was a great player that there opinion is just always right?

[wwharton]

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so your telling me just because someone was a great player that there opinion is just always right?

Or (not taking the absolute extreme to make a point) that his experience and access to information are both light years ahead of what any of us here could provide, so without knowing any more than we do right now, we're not really in a place to question his opinion.

[thrust]

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He's the only offensive weapon on that pitiful Browns offense. Squarely put: Trent Richardson is going to HAVE to be special if he intends to succeed. I just can't imagine the guy excelling on a roster completely void of offensive talent, a rookie QB who will be too old before the team is even competitive, and a division that makes its living on stout defense.

Wow!! Enough said!

[mdmgrand]

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If Greg Little can improve his concentration a bit, and with Weeden's stronger, more accurate arm, he will be a weapon. Shurmur just needs to get creative on offense. Cribbs and Benjamin will not produce as normal receivers, they need to get the ball in space, which the Browns seem adamant on turning Cribbs into a legitimate receiver rather than an all purpose weapon.

I want this offensive breakdown for the season:

Carries: Trent Richardson 280, Brandon Jackson 80, Josh Cribbs 35, Montario Hardesty 35, Travis Benjamin 10

Targets: Greg Little 160, Massaquoi 80, Richardson 60, Cribbs 50, Watson 50, Benjamin 45, Norwood 35 Moore/Cameron 30, Jackson 30, Marecic/Smelley 20

This would create diversity, and with a heavy emphasis on getting the ball to Little and Richardson, the rest of the crew will have breathing room to get open. This would also put Weeden at around 35 attempts per game, and the rushing attack at around 27.5 attempts per game. Plays per game were projected based upon last year.

Lets say Trent averaged 4.3 yards per carry and 8.5 yards per reception at a 75% completion rate. He would be at 1,204 rushing yards, 45 receptions for 383 yards. I would love my running back to obtain close to 1,600 yards from scrimmage.

[Tomahawk]

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Jim could really run, but he had so many attempts! he had so many attempts per game meaning he would allot of time's get 35+. even when he had a bad game he would get all those attempts and still get allot of yards and that's because eventually with all those attempts the short yardage would add up. but in todays game no one is gonna Average all those attempts, imagine if Maurice Jones-Drew (who led the league in rushing) had that many attempts. but i still think Jim brown is ONE of the best players in the NFL,

The most carries that Jim Brown averaged per game in any season was just over 24. Also, I can't find game logs for his first three seasons, but in his last six seasons he only had one game where he ran the ball more than 30 times in a game. Real stats don't come anywhere close to justifying your opinion.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...wJi00/gamelog/

[Tomahawk]

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On 283 attempts alabama's Trent richardson Rushed for 1740 yards in the 2011 season along with 21 TD's But When Jim brown was asked about Richardson Brown stated he doesn't think he is all that special Brown said his Speed and Size was ordinary but in Brown's first year at Syracuse he Rushed for 439 Yards, in his second year 666 rushing yards and his last year at Syracuse he had 986 rushing yards with a total of 2091 rushing yards. richardson also played 3 season in college. he rushed for 784 yards as a freshman, 719 yards as a sophomore and 1740 yards in his last year with Alabama and with a total of 3243 yards he had over a thousand more yards than Jim brown in college. so if we judged a player's entire Career of his college statistics then Richardson would be the better player, and thats exactly what jim brown is doing when he says he thinks Richardson is just a ordinary Running back. for example coming out of college Jim brown wasnt the best Rb/Fb what if Hall of fame Running back Harold Edward "Red" Grange said that Brown wouldnt be special? of course The future would prove him wrong but it would be the same situation as brown and richardson but what im saying is that Brown will eat his words just like Harold "Red" Grange would have if he would have made that statement, Richardson was the better College player and i dont see why he wont be just as succesful in the NFL. but what do YOU think?

Syracuse played 25 games during Brown's career and Alabama played 40 games during Richardson's career. Brown averaged 83.64 yards per game that Syracuse played during that time period while Richardson averaged 78.25 yards per game that Alabama played. Comparing their total yards gained isn't exactly a fair comparison. If someone played an extra 15 games then it is pretty easy to see why they had a little over 1,000 more yards.

Also, your numbers according to this site are not correct for Richardson:
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/...hardson-1.html