Week 2: Dallas Cowboys (1-0) @ Seattle Seahawks (0-1)

[Hassan Darkside]

Re: Week 2: Dallas Cowboys (1-0) @ Seattle Seahawks (0-1)

It's the 'ahh, typical Cowboys' that pisses some of us off. We keep waiting for some kind of turnaround and beating the defending Superbowl champs was a start, but the next week we get taken to the shed by the Seahawks? I don't see why that shouldn't make a fan angry.

[cjonesfan921]

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It's the 'ahh, typical Cowboys' that pisses some of us off. We keep waiting for some kind of turnaround and beating the defending Superbowl champs was a start, but the next week we get taken to the shed by the Seahawks? I don't see why that shouldn't make a fan angry.

To be honest, my reaction isn't that bad because I think the start of the game took a lot out of the guys. Felix Jones shouldn't be on this team anymore he really is out there trotting. If I see the same type of effort against TB, then I get angry.

It probably also helps that I didn't watch the game.

[Lieutenant Dan]

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A picture of that Golden Tate hit on Lee:

IMO, that's a clean de-cleater. Hit him square in the front, not the head, not a cut block, not from behind, not from the side. If that had happened to a 'hawk, I say the same thing. Even if Ward delivered it (and I hate him).

Tate could have been flagged for excessive celebration after the hit, though. And the call on that play was bogus for shoving Wilson.

But the hit itself? Lee got jacked up.

If the NFL fines or penalizes over that kind of block, just strip off the pads and strap on the flags. Jeez.

[cjonesfan921]

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IMO, that's a clean de-cleater. Hit him square in the front, not the head, not a cut block, not from behind, not from the side. If that had happened to a 'hawk, I say the same thing. Even if Ward delivered it (and I hate him).

Tate could have been flagged for excessive celebration after the hit, though. And the call on that play was bogus for shoving Wilson.

But the hit itself? Lee got jacked up.

If the NFL fines or penalizes over that kind of block, just strip off the pads and strap on the flags. Jeez.

The problem is, it is dangerous. Rivers lost a whole year and maybe more off a hit just like that.

I don't think Tate had any malicious intent, it just happened. I think he will be fined.

[kingkilla56]

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Isnt there a rule against hitting defenseless defenders like this?

[thaima1shu]

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Pretty sure he's going to get fined. Regardless, I still loved it. It was perfect because it pretty much summed up exactly what the Seahawks did to the Cowboys yesterday: just smacked them around all day.

[Lieutenant Dan]

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The problem is, it is dangerous. Rivers lost a whole year and maybe more off a hit just like that.

I don't think Tate had any malicious intent, it just happened. I think he will be fined.

I agree that Tate had no malicious intent, and it just happened. I also agree there is a chance he gets fined based on how the league is dealing with player safety issues.

But...I think Lee had some tunnel vision on Wilson, even though Tate was in his periphery and then mostly in front of him. That was not an out-of-nowhere decapitation hit.

Tate's a 5'10" 202 lb WR, and Lee is a stout 6'2" 245 lb LB and Lee bounced back from it apparently just fine. I'm just disappointed that the block itself is even newsworthy in a negative light as it was a rousing, old-school football play.

To the game itself, I had a good feeling we'd pull this one off, but more like a 24-21 kinda thing. Dallas looked really disconnected out there. Romo was working hard, but didn't see a lot of effort anywhere else. My two friends here at work who are 'boys fans want to cut F. Jones today and are tired of the coaching.

For my 'hawks, great game, guys! Wilson is making progress, and our WR corps was more active yesterday. Props to Omiyale for keeping Ware in check

[thaima1shu]

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For my 'hawks, great game, guys! Wilson is making progress, and our WR corps was more active yesterday. Props to Omiyale for keeping Ware in check

This is what shocked me. Ware didn't really have much of an impact at all, and of all the people it was Omiyale that held his own? What?!

Overall a great game all around for the Seahawks.

[coogrfan]

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Pretty sure he's going to get fined. Regardless, I still loved it. It was perfect because it pretty much summed up exactly what the Seahawks did to the Cowboys yesterday: just smacked them around all day.

Would you have "loved it" if the play had been officiated correctly and as a result your Hawks had been looking at 2nd and 20+ from around their own 10 yard line?

It was an idiotic play by Tate, one that could concievably have sparked a Dallas comeback.

[thaima1shu]

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Would you have "loved it" if the play had been officiated correctly and as a result your Hawks had been looking at 2nd and 20+ from around their own 10 yard line?

It was an idiotic play by Tate, one that could concievably have sparked a Dallas comeback.

Just because I think he WILL get fined, doesn't mean I think he SHOULD. It looked like a great block to me. Therefore, loved it.

[coogrfan]

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Just because I think he WILL get fined, doesn't mean I think he SHOULD. It looked like a great block to me. Therefore, loved it.

Translation: "I, thaima1shu, don't actually know the rules of the sport I profess to love. Therefore, loved it."

[thaima1shu]

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Translation: "I, thaima1shu, don't actually know the rules of the sport I profess to love. Therefore, loved it."

Haha, if that comforts you to think that, sure thing. Legal or illegal, I loved it. It wasn't done with malicious intent, and Lee wasn't hurt. Didn't know I couldn't enjoy a big block from a small WR on a much larger opposing LB. So I'm sorry for deriving satisfaction out of it?

[Lieutenant Dan]

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Isnt there a rule against hitting defenseless defenders like this?

There is a difference between "defenseless" and "not paying attention."

[cjonesfan921]

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There is a difference between "defenseless" and "not paying attention."

Again, I don't think there was intent, but you realize that Lee is considered, by NFL rules, defenseless the way that play unfolded?

[snepp]

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Doesn't it fall under this?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/nfl-expands-defenseless-player-rule-to-crackback-blocks/