Aaron Hernandez Saga

[TheShizNo1]

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Because you showed you clearly didn't get it; but you got it, man.

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[Speedy]

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[fugazi]

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meh...his behavior was not brought about by football. He was more entitled and empowered by football, i would think.

Former player on ESPN Radio couple months ago said it best...CTE is a thing, but it's far from the only thing affecting players' health and well-being after the game

[z Revis]

Aaron Hernandez Saga

At no point did I say that.

Probably getting them the help in which they need before **** like this happens or goes as far as it does.

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I was talking more after the fact, but yeah I agree with that.

Not that I'm saying Hernandez needed help though(as far as having a mental illness or what have you). I could be wrong but wasn't he involved in this type of shady gang activity back in college? I thought I remember reading that. Seems like he was just always around the wrong crowd from a young age and got caught up in it.


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[ODogg]

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Then he should care less. I couldn’t care less about a gang banging murder looking to pin his faults on the occupation he chose willingly.

100% AGREE!! Couldn't have said it better myself bro!

[ProfessaPackMan]

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BOSTON — Aaron Hernandez suffered the most severe case of chronic traumatic encephalopathy ever discovered in a person his age, damage that would have significantly affected his decision-making, judgment and cognition, researchers at Boston University revealed at a medical conference Thursday.

Dr. Ann McKee, the head of BU’s CTE Center, which has studied the disease caused by repeated brain injury for more than decade, called Hernandez’s brain “one of the most significant contributions to our work” because of the brain’s pristine condition and the opportunity to study the disease in a 27-year-old brain.

Hernandez, a former New England Patriots tight end, committed suicide in April in a Massachusetts prison while serving a life sentence for the murder of his friend Odin Lloyd in 2013. Hernandez hanged himself with a bedsheet.

Doctors diagnosed Hernandez with Stage 3 CTE, which researchers had never seen in a brain younger than 46 years old, McKee said. His brain had significant damage to the front lobe, which impacts a person’s ability to make decisions and moderate behavior.

At the conference Thursday, McKee flipped through slides comparing sections of Hernandez’s brain to a sample without CTE. Hernandez’s brain had dark spots associated with tau protein and shrunken, withered areas, compared to pristine white of the sample. As some new slides appeared on the projectors, some physicians and conference attendees gasped.

“We can’t take the pathology and explain the behavior,” McKee said. “But we can say collectively, in our collective experience, that individuals with CTE, and CTE of this severity, have difficulty with impulse control, decision-making, inhibition of impulses for aggression, emotional volatility, rage behaviors. We know that collectively.”

[NFL says it will ‘vigorously’ fight CTE lawsuit filed by Aaron Hernandez’s family]

Boston University has received few brains to study from people Hernandez’s age, so McKee could not say whether Hernandez’s brain was representative of a 27-year-old who had played football as much as Hernandez, a high school star in Connecticut and a collegiate standout at Florida. But she found the advanced stage of CTE in Hernandez’s brain alarming.

“In this age group, he’s clearly at the severe end of the spectrum,” McKee said. “There is a concern that we’re seeing accelerated disease in young athletes. Whether or not that’s because they’re playing more aggressively or if they’re starting at younger ages, we don’t know. But we are seeing ravages of this disease, in this specific example, of a young person.”

McKee said Hernandez had a genetic marker that makes people vulnerable to certain brain diseases.

“We know that that’s a risk factor for neurogenerative disease,” McKee said. “Whether or not that contributed in this case is speculative. It may explain some of his susceptibility to this disease.”

BU researchers say they have discovered CTE in more than 100 former NFL players, a handful of whom have committed suicide.

The findings represent another marker in the football’s ongoing concussion crisis, as the NFL is also trying to untangle strife in the wake of players protesting during the national anthem, which has drawn the ire of President Donald Trump and potentially rattled the status of Commissioner Roger Goodell.

Researchers had previously disclosed severe signs of CTE in Hernandez’s brain, indicating his brain had degenerated to a degree typically associated with a person in his late 60s. Jose Baez, a lawyer for Hernandez’s family, said it was “the most severe case they had ever seen in someone of Aaron’s age.”

Hernandez’s estate filed a federal lawsuit against the Patriots in September, alleging the Patriots knew hits to the head could lead to brain and failed to protect him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/aaron-hernandez-suffered-from-most-severe-cte-ever-found-in-a-person-his-age/2017/11/09/fa7cd204-c57b-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.400f933111fe

[ODogg]

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.400f933111fe

*shrug* that's why they make the big bucks.

[ImTellinTim]

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What a ****ty thing to say.

[ODogg]

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What a ****ty thing to say.

No it's not, that is reality. Those guys play an insanely violent game where you can be crippled for life in any one play. They know, or should know, it's high risk and high reward. That is why they get paid huge amounts of money to do so. So no, I don't think it's *****ty at all to say that, it's called knowing risks and accepting them.

It reminds me of the stupidity around smoking..omg you mean if I smoke I might get lung cancer?? WHAT?? Of course these guys know they can get head trauma!!!!

Now maybe, just maybe guys who played in the 70's or 80's, a little more sympathy there perhaps but anyone playing now knows damned well what they are signing up for. That's why some guys have even simply retired for it.

So don't come at me like I'm being unsympathetic, those guys are getting their rewards and taking that chance, that is on them 100% and anyone that doesn't like it can always retire and do like the rest of us and go to work where we make every day man money.

[Jr.]

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No it's not, that is reality. Those guys play an insanely violent game where you can be crippled for life in any one play. They know, or should know, it's high risk and high reward. That is why they get paid huge amounts of money to do so. So no, I don't think it's *****ty at all to say that, it's called knowing risks and accepting them.

It reminds me of the stupidity around smoking..omg you mean if I smoke I might get lung cancer?? WHAT?? Of course these guys know they can get head trauma!!!!

Now maybe, just maybe guys who played in the 70's or 80's, a little more sympathy there perhaps but anyone playing now knows damned well what they are signing up for. That's why some guys have even simply retired for it.

So don't come at me like I'm being unsympathetic, those guys are getting their rewards and taking that chance, that is on them 100% and anyone that doesn't like it can always retire and do like the rest of us and go to work where we make every day man money.

Hernandez was out of the league before this much was truly known about the damage of repeated subconcussive hits. I think you're forgetting how recent all of this stuff is and how long ago Hernandez played.

[redsox4evur]

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Hernandez was out of the league before this much was truly known about the damage of repeated subconcussive hits. I think you're forgetting how recent all of this stuff is and how long ago Hernandez played.

Exactly this concussion stuff has been a thing for the last 3/4 years, maybe 5 years max. And Hernandez was out of the league right before the whole concussion education really started to takeoff.


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[Scott812313]

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No it's not, that is reality. Those guys play an insanely violent game where you can be crippled for life in any one play. They know, or should know, it's high risk and high reward. That is why they get paid huge amounts of money to do so. So no, I don't think it's *****ty at all to say that, it's called knowing risks and accepting them.

It reminds me of the stupidity around smoking..omg you mean if I smoke I might get lung cancer?? WHAT?? Of course these guys know they can get head trauma!!!!

Now maybe, just maybe guys who played in the 70's or 80's, a little more sympathy there perhaps but anyone playing now knows damned well what they are signing up for. That's why some guys have even simply retired for it.

So don't come at me like I'm being unsympathetic, those guys are getting their rewards and taking that chance, that is on them 100% and anyone that doesn't like it can always retire and do like the rest of us and go to work where we make every day man money.

They get paid huge amounts of money because they generate enormous amounts of money for their teams and the league itself and the fact that they have a skill that is very uncommon. Risk of injury would be extremely low on the scale of why they make the money they do.

[dickey1331]

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It would be interesting to know if any of this has to do with some of his actions. I don’t know much about Hernandez but I don’t believe he was a saint in college either. Either way I’m sure if affected him somewhat.


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[p_rushing]

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It would be interesting to know if any of this has to do with some of his actions. I don’t know much about Hernandez but I don’t believe he was a saint in college either. Either way I’m sure if affected him somewhat.


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The CTE didn't have any impact on him unless you believe he already had it as a teenager. There also is no before image to see what his drain looked like. He was already in a gang and there are rumors of him being involved with violent crimes then.

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[ggsimmonds]

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No it's not, that is reality. Those guys play an insanely violent game where you can be crippled for life in any one play. They know, or should know, it's high risk and high reward. That is why they get paid huge amounts of money to do so. So no, I don't think it's *****ty at all to say that, it's called knowing risks and accepting them.

It reminds me of the stupidity around smoking..omg you mean if I smoke I might get lung cancer?? WHAT?? Of course these guys know they can get head trauma!!!!

Now maybe, just maybe guys who played in the 70's or 80's, a little more sympathy there perhaps but anyone playing now knows damned well what they are signing up for. That's why some guys have even simply retired for it.

So don't come at me like I'm being unsympathetic, those guys are getting their rewards and taking that chance, that is on them 100% and anyone that doesn't like it can always retire and do like the rest of us and go to work where we make every day man money.

But you are absolutely being unsympathetic, you are just justifying your lack of sympathy.

And as another pointed out, this is unquestionably not why he got paid "the big bucks." NFL players get paid the money they do because they have a very rare skill set that is in high demand. Its supply and demand, not risk factor. Otherwise soldiers would be billionaires and policemen millionaires.

That being said the lawsuit vs the Patriots is laughable. How long was he in the NFL? Now how much football did he play prior to entering the league?

Why is it the NFL the one always getting sued?

Finally though I am not doubting that football has serious long term health effects, I do think people need to slow down on the CTE scare. Its still not fully understood and all this talk about X percentage of player brains testing positive for it seem to forget that they are only testing brains that they suspect at the start.