Aaron Hernandez Saga

[Blzer]

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That being said the lawsuit vs the Patriots is laughable. How long was he in the NFL? Now how much football did he play prior to entering the league?

Why is it the NFL the one always getting sued?

Just because they're the only one currently under a lawsuit doesn't mean they will be the only one. You can bet the family will go after the NCAA next, then the high school. They're just doing it one at a time.

[ODogg]

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Hernandez was out of the league before this much was truly known about the damage of repeated subconcussive hits. I think you're forgetting how recent all of this stuff is and how long ago Hernandez played.

Exactly this concussion stuff has been a thing for the last 3/4 years, maybe 5 years max. And Hernandez was out of the league right before the whole concussion education really started to takeoff.


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Sure that specific type of information is relatively new but it's always been known that playing football is extremely dangerous and can result in long term physical and mental damage. Head injuries aren't new.

[ODogg]

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It would be interesting to know if any of this has to do with some of his actions. I don’t know much about Hernandez but I don’t believe he was a saint in college either. Either way I’m sure if affected him somewhat.


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Exactly, if CTE caused any of his actions then how do you explain all of the other 98 million football players who have lived good, productive lives after football. These guys know the risks going in, so this idea that we should feel sorry for them, that they're not responsible for their actions or that they're being taken advantage of is laughable.

[ODogg]

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But you are absolutely being unsympathetic, you are just justifying your lack of sympathy.

And as another pointed out, this is unquestionably not why he got paid "the big bucks." NFL players get paid the money they do because they have a very rare skill set that is in high demand. Its supply and demand, not risk factor. Otherwise soldiers would be billionaires and policemen millionaires.

I'm not sympathetic to people who get paid millions and have fame because they might get hurt. Again, they know that going in. If they so choose they can do like some have and not do so, get their college degree and go do something with us and make a living like the rest of us.

The simple fact is most of them prefer the money and the fame and they don't care about, or downplay the risks to get it. That is why many of these guys don't even complete their college educations at all and just go straight to the NFL.

Sorry, no sympathy here, they're adults and they have their right to make that choice. On the flip side you will find no jealousy from me either of the guys making huge money, getting tons of women and being super famous from doing what they do. They deserve it all.

In fact, I'm the first guy at a party when I hear someone comment "Well you know who doesn't deserve 82 million dollars are those NFL players, God those guys are SO overpaid!!!" or such. Uh yeah, they definitely do deserve making that huge money considering their high level of talen and what they risk every single time they go on to the field.

So let's be real here, these guys are highly paid for what they do and what they risk, they don't deserve our scorn for making such ridiculous money, nor do they deserve our sympathy when they are injured either.

[kehlis]

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I'm not sympathetic to people who get paid millions and have fame because they might get hurt.

I'm jealous of their wealth and fame too but I'm not out here saying "oh well" if someone ends up with a terrible brain disease.

You're basically saying brain damage and a career ending ACL tear are one and the same.

[z Revis]

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I hear what you’re saying ODogg but you’re taking it a step too far. They don’t deserve our sympathy? It’d be like hearing a story of a police officer or US soldier getting severely hurt or killed and just passing it off as “oh well they knew the risks before getting into that profession, should’ve gotten a desk job if they didn’t want to die.” That’s just a terrible attitude.


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[legendkiller5]

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I hear what you’re saying ODogg but you’re taking it a step too far. They don’t deserve our sympathy? It’d be like hearing a story of a police officer or US soldier getting severely hurt or killed and just passing it off as “oh well they knew the risks before getting into that profession, should’ve gotten a desk job if they didn’t want to die.” That’s just a terrible attitude.


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I doubt he would ever say that about a solider or police officer, because they don't make millions, live lavish lifestyles and get all the women.

I think that's what it boils down to. The lifestyle they live and others can't.

[ODogg]

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I hear what you’re saying ODogg but you’re taking it a step too far. They don’t deserve our sympathy? It’d be like hearing a story of a police officer or US soldier getting severely hurt or killed and just passing it off as “oh well they knew the risks before getting into that profession, should’ve gotten a desk job if they didn’t want to die.” That’s just a terrible attitude.


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Maybe you're a bit right, let me rephrase it, I don't have any sympathy at all for Aaron Hernandez and I quite honestly think that with our without football he would have ended up being the same criminal he turned out to be.

But in general no I do not ever want to see anyone get hurt, but it is what it is and I would hope those guys really know going in that it's a high possibility...even more so now that these studies are out and it's plain and clear what it likely will do to you if you play football..

[ODogg]

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I'm jealous of their wealth and fame too but I'm not out here saying "oh well" if someone ends up with a terrible brain disease.

You're basically saying brain damage and a career ending ACL tear are one and the same.

As I said above, I am not jealous, nor do I begrudge them for earning millions for playing a game either.

[ODogg]

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I doubt he would ever say that about a solider or police officer, because they don't make millions, live lavish lifestyles and get all the women.

I think that's what it boils down to. The lifestyle they live and others can't.

Quite different, those guys are doing a job that is a public service. But yes money does play a role, not in the jealousy or envy aspect but because it is definitely more sympathetic when someone does something noble like serve their community or their country for low pay and then gets seriously injured. Money also plays a role because police officers and soldiers sometimes don't have the means to make their lives whole again. That certainly isn't the case for NFL players.

I look at it more practical than I think some of you do. I really do think the NFL players 100% deserve the money they get and I understand why they get paid that much, they have unique talent, they risk their mental and physical well being but more importantly they generate huge revenue.

But you cannot take that position without on the flip side realizing that they are adults and have to weigh into their decision to play knowing the risks of paralysis, loss of limb (Zach Miller) and possible early loss of their minds.

It's really a lot less about sympathy, jealousy or any other emotion, I just look at it in practical terms, playing in the NFL has its pros and cons and they are both huge upsides and huge downsides.

Also note - I don't envy their lifestyle at all, in fact I live a great life. I make six figures and live in a huge house. You don't know me well enough to make those assumptions

[TripleCrown9]

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Quite different, those guys are doing a job that is a public service. But yes money does play a role, not in the jealousy or envy aspect but because it is definitely more sympathetic when someone does something noble like serve their community or their country for low pay and then gets seriously injured. Money also plays a role because police officers and soldiers sometimes don't have the means to make their lives whole again. That certainly isn't the case for NFL players.

I look at it more practical than I think some of you do. I really do think the NFL players 100% deserve the money they get and I understand why they get paid that much, they have unique talent, they risk their mental and physical well being but more importantly they generate huge revenue.

But you cannot take that position without on the flip side realizing that they are adults and have to weigh into their decision to play knowing the risks of paralysis, loss of limb (Zach Miller) and possible early loss of their minds.

It's really a lot less about sympathy, jealousy or any other emotion, I just look at it in practical terms, playing in the NFL has its pros and cons and they are both huge upsides and huge downsides.

Also note - I don't envy their lifestyle at all, in fact I live a great life. I make six figures and live in a huge house. You don't know me well enough to make those assumptions

[bkrich83]

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Also note - I don't envy their lifestyle at all, in fact I live a great life. I make six figures and live in a huge house. You don't know me well enough to make those assumptions

Houses are essentially free in Ohio. Not really something to brag about.

As far as 6 figures, not really a big deal, nor is it really that much money, especially when compared to people with true wealth, like many of those in the league.

[legendkiller5]

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Quite different, those guys are doing a job that is a public service. But yes money does play a role, not in the jealousy or envy aspect but because it is definitely more sympathetic when someone does something noble like serve their community or their country for low pay and then gets seriously injured. Money also plays a role because police officers and soldiers sometimes don't have the means to make their lives whole again. That certainly isn't the case for NFL players.

I look at it more practical than I think some of you do. I really do think the NFL players 100% deserve the money they get and I understand why they get paid that much, they have unique talent, they risk their mental and physical well being but more importantly they generate huge revenue.

But you cannot take that position without on the flip side realizing that they are adults and have to weigh into their decision to play knowing the risks of paralysis, loss of limb (Zach Miller) and possible early loss of their minds.

It's really a lot less about sympathy, jealousy or any other emotion, I just look at it in practical terms, playing in the NFL has its pros and cons and they are both huge upsides and huge downsides.

Also note - I don't envy their lifestyle at all, in fact I live a great life. I make six figures and live in a huge house. You don't know me well enough to make those assumptions

Nice backpedal from your initial post on this revisited topic.

You can say or claim you aren't jealous and you live a great life, or whatever. Fact is their lifestyle and income is a factor in your "*shrug* that's why they make the big bucks." attitude.

And your callous, non-chalant and insensitive response to CTE, the players it affects and their loved ones (which you obviously haven't taken into account) is the issue.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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The CTE didn't have any impact on him unless you believe he already had it as a teenager. There also is no before image to see what his drain looked like. He was already in a gang and there are rumors of him being involved with violent crimes then.

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This statement is way too definitive given the information available to us.

[TheShizNo1]

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Houses are essentially free in Ohio. Not really something to brag about.

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