Aaron Hernandez Saga

[turty11]

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so i guess hernandez has been MIA for over 24 hours now, thats not what an innocent man does

[BigDofBA]

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so i guess hernandez has been MIA for over 24 hours now, thats not what an innocent man does

Where did you get that info?

There are too many things that point to Hernandez' involvement to warrant probable cause for.

1) He destroyed his phone
2) He destroyed his surveillance footage
3) He hired a cred to clean up his house
4) A rental car of his was found near the murder
5) The body was found a mile from his house
6) The body was an associate of Hernandez

I understand innocent until proven guilty but I don't see how anyone can honestly think that he is not involved in some way.

At the very least, destroying evidence and obstructing evidence is a felony. He obviously has something to hide.

I can't believe we continue to see these athletes that have it all get involved in things like this. It's so stupid.

[turty11]

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Where did you get that info?

There are too many things that point to Hernandez' involvement to warrant probable cause for.

1) He destroyed his phone
2) He destroyed his surveillance footage
3) He hired a cred to clean up his house
4) A rental car of his was found near the murder
5) The body was found a mile from his house
6) The body was an associate of Hernandez

I understand innocent until proven guilty but I don't see how anyone can honestly think that he is not involved in some way.

At the very least, destroying evidence and obstructing evidence is a felony. He obviously has something to hide.

I can't believe we continue to see these athletes that have it all get involved in things like this. It's so stupid.

family from the mass/conn area said he hasnt been seen in over 24 hours , must be on the local news out there, it would also explain why no arrest has been made since the ABC report of the warrant to be issued

--muscle milk just dropped him as an endorsee

[NDAlum]

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Where did you get that info?

There are too many things that point to Hernandez' involvement to warrant probable cause for.

1) He destroyed his phone
2) He destroyed his surveillance footage
3) He hired a cred to clean up his house
4) A rental car of his was found near the murder
5) The body was found a mile from his house
6) The body was an associate of Hernandez

I understand innocent until proven guilty but I don't see how anyone can honestly think that he is not involved in some way.

At the very least, destroying evidence and obstructing evidence is a felony. He obviously has something to hide.

I can't believe we continue to see these athletes that have it all get involved in things like this. It's so stupid.

PC for what specific crime?

I don't know MA law too well. Obstructing evidence is a felony?

The standard for PC is rather low so obtaining warrants based on the given information should not be a difficult task (unless of course we are missing something).

I can believe that these athletes are acting idiotic. They grew up in this mess and all the money does is give them easier access to what they think is a way of life. Almost guarantee the associates have been there with him from his pre-Florida days.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

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/sarcasm What good does destroying the phone do?The police should just call the NSA. And really, who still uses public warrants when super secret warrants are all the rage? /endsarcasm

It doesn't look good based on the media. I really hate this type of media storm. It makes getting a fair trial so much more difficult. You basically have to find a juror who was living under a ******* rock.

The shame is that our society still lets its youth fall into this cycle of thug life. It is a shame somebody who is given the world can still manage to throw it away. It is a shame one young man has lost his life, and another will probably be there soon (metaphorically rather than literally).

Somebody posted how hard it is to follow the law. to answer that, nearly impossible. According to some law professors, every single person living in American could be brought up on federal charges for something they have done in their everyday lives.

Somebody posted how hard it is to put criminal away (theoretically) with our adversarial system. I'd rather let 15 guilty men go free, than 1 innocent man put away. There is no justification for the state taking a person's freedom if he did not do something to warrant it. I hope the police do their job on this one by the books, because heaven knows Hernandez will have the best attorney money can buy.

[SPTO]

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The odds of a guilty man going free are FAR GREATER than an innocent man being found guilty.

At least karma saw to it that he's rotting in jail right now.

[NDAlum]

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Somebody posted how hard it is to put criminal away (theoretically) with our adversarial system. I'd rather let 15 guilty men go free, than 1 innocent man put away. There is no justification for the state taking a person's freedom if he did not do something to warrant it. I hope the police do their job on this one by the books, because heaven knows Hernandez will have the best attorney money can buy.

My observations are based upon personal experience (5+ years in a related field) and you have nothing to worry about with that 15:1 ratio. (Even though I know you were just throwing out a number I can tell you the odds of an innocent man getting locked up for a crime they did not commit is very, very low)

Attorneys aren't there to help the innocent. They are there to find a 4th or 6th amendment right error that dismisses the case.

*Those are the two most common*

4th = unreasonable search or seizure
6th = due process under law

[skywalkah]

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[Kaiser Wilhelm]

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My observations are based upon personal experience (5+ years in a related field) and you have nothing to worry about with that 15:1 ratio. (Even though I know you were just throwing out a number I can tell you the odds of an innocent man getting locked up for a crime they did not commit is very, very low)

Attorneys aren't there to help the innocent. They are there to find a 4th or 6th amendment right error that dismisses the case.

*Those are the two most common*

4th = unreasonable search or seizure
6th = due process under law

Yeah, I posted the number, which I even found to be low. As they should be. Nothing disgusts me greater than government, or deputized government employees abusing their power. Sadly, the Federal Government has all but shattered the Bill of Rights (as was the joke in the sarcasm piece).

[skywalkah]

family from the mass/conn area said he hasnt been seen in over 24 hours , must be on the local news out there, it would also explain why no arrest has been made since the ABC report of the warrant to be issued

--muscle milk just dropped him as an endorsee

Apparently, he returned to his home this afternoon with a lawyer. Haven't heard he's missing..

And the word is this may be a "paper warrant;" an initial attempt to further encourage cooperation.

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[RandyBass]

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I don't know all that much about Hernandez. I don't know all that much about this case, but from what I've read it sounds like the young man is about to be humbled real quick, with a force that will easily snap his soul in two and leave him shattered broke and broken.

Don't mess with the spirit world kids; it's a battle you won't win. Start on the ground, stay on the ground, and you'll know where to go from there. These are truths you just don't want to test.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

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Apparently, he returned to his home this afternoon with a lawyer. Haven't heard he's missing..

And the word is this may be a "paper warrant;" an initial attempt to further encourage cooperation.

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Ah, nothing like good ole government bullying.

[Sublime12089]

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Even if he didn't kill anyone, destroying evidence is still pretty bad IMO as it shows he's covering up for someone else.

I don't necessarily think he's guilty but based on what we've heard so far I wouldn't be surprised if he is.

Didn't work out too badly for Ray Lewis.

[The JareBear]

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Where there is smoke, there is fire. He is guilty, at the very least of obstruction of justice. He will be lucky if that ends up being all it is.

This whole situation is truly bizarre. I doubt we will ever know the full truth behind what really happened that night.

For the life of me, I will never understand the mindset of the Star Athlete. Is it some sort of sense of entitlement that gets seeded at early age, like when they are the only player on their Pop Warner team to touch the ball kinda deal, that creates this false sense of invincibility? I find the epidemic (that being the spread of apathy amongst professional athletes in regards to decency) quite fascinating.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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*sigh*

I really hope this doesn't start a "pro athlete entitlement" media storm. Pro athletes have a much lower arrest rate than the rest of society. Not sure why we expect them to be "better" than us. They're just normal people with a good *** job.