Thread for NFL players in trouble with the law

[KMRblue1027]

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I think people are too cynical about law enforcement at this point to really even bother. I'm sure everyone would love to see Rice tried.

[wwharton]

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The sad thing to me and the only thing that matters is that he actually wasn't really "in trouble with the law" at least not to the extent he should have been. I don't care about his NFL career, and think it's crazy the public is holding the NFL accountable for punishing him. That's what the law is for and it seems to have failed miserably - THAT is the real problem no?

That's been my issue from the beginning. But even there, I don't think he should be the poster child. The law is a mess when it comes to domestic violence cases... his celebrity didn't get him any more of a break than I would get (no priors, wife doesn't want to press charges, upstanding citizen otherwise, etc, etc). What bothers me about all of this is the focus is on Rice and the NFL which means the small light shined on the issues with domestic violence in society as a whole has already faded.

But as for the Rice case specifically, both the Ravens and NFL did him dirty. I noticed that they just announced that McDonald's suspension (that hasn't happened yet) could be reduced for "good behavior". I'm positive this is a set up for them to do some PR spinning when Rice's is reduced. The McDonald thing doesn't even make sense bc he still maintains that he's completely innocent so either he should get off completely or he's a liar. The league is just digging their hole even deeper.

[NDAlum]

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I think people are too cynical about law enforcement at this point to really even bother. I'm sure everyone would love to see Rice tried.

Could you elaborate on how this is relevant? I'm failing to see the connection here

[kehlis]

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Could you elaborate on how this is relevant? I'm failing to see the connection here

He thinks Rice should be tried.

You disagree???

[KMRblue1027]

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Could you elaborate on how this is relevant? I'm failing to see the connection here

Most people I've talked to would love to see Rice tried, at least force him into a courtroom, but also realize like with any celebrity the chance of that happening is slim to none. Instead, they hope the NFL in trying to safe face at least blacklists him. Not exactly satisfying but its something.

[mestevo]

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Tried or not, I don't expect anyone's opinions to change about Rice or the incident.

[wwharton]

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Most people I've talked to would love to see Rice tried, at least force him into a courtroom, but also realize like with any celebrity the chance of that happening is slim to none. Instead, they hope the NFL in trying to safe face at least blacklists him. Not exactly satisfying but its something.

This has nothing to do with celebrity, you or I wouldn't be tried either. That's why the way all of this is being reported, reinforcing the ignorance out there, is just making everything worse.

The NFL blacklisting him isn't "something" bc in reality, approaching things like that doesn't work. He'll rightfully be reinstated and will (already is) be considered a victim instead of just someone who did something horrible and paid a fair price for it.

In terms of his "crime" he's one of thousands. Blacklisting all of them from significant parts of society, stripping them of their job, etc. is not the answer. Doing that for them and everyone who's committed a crime on a similar level is not a sustainable justice system.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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That's been my issue from the beginning. But even there, I don't think he should be the poster child. The law is a mess when it comes to domestic violence cases... his celebrity didn't get him any more of a break than I would get (no priors, wife doesn't want to press charges, upstanding citizen otherwise, etc, etc). What bothers me about all of this is the focus is on Rice and the NFL which means the small light shined on the issues with domestic violence in society as a whole has already faded.

But as for the Rice case specifically, both the Ravens and NFL did him dirty. I noticed that they just announced that McDonald's suspension (that hasn't happened yet) could be reduced for "good behavior". I'm positive this is a set up for them to do some PR spinning when Rice's is reduced. The McDonald thing doesn't even make sense bc he still maintains that he's completely innocent so either he should get off completely or he's a liar. The league is just digging their hole even deeper.

As expected, which to me is hilarious and sad at the same time.

[NDAlum]

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Most people I've talked to would love to see Rice tried, at least force him into a courtroom, but also realize like with any celebrity the chance of that happening is slim to none. Instead, they hope the NFL in trying to safe face at least blacklists him. Not exactly satisfying but its something.

Oh okay the issue is with the judicial process and not law enforcement. He isn't getting any type of special treatment. First time offenders are given the benefit of the doubt in most cases and given chances to do diversion programs.

[NDAlum]

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Classic ESPN BS headline

Titans' Greene arrested after illegal parking

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11760135/shonn-greene-tennessee-titans-arrested-attempting-evade-ticket-parking-handicap-spot

Why not say he was arrested for breathing?

ESPN comment section hilarious line of the day:

It's official: Shonn Greene can't outrun anybody.

[mestevo]

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DA declines to file charges against 49ers' Ray McDonald

[wwharton]

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DA declines to file charges against 49ers' Ray McDonald

I thought he was already cleared. Was there something new or something I missed from before (about a week ago)?

[mestevo]

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I hadn't really kept up with him or his incident, but that just broke all over Twitter as the DA confirmed they would not be pursing charges. The injuries sustained are consistent with a scuffle, not an attack, and both parties stated Jane Doe struck first.

via https://twitter.com/RapSheet

[NDAlum]

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That's par for the course. It's good that the PC train didn't force him to miss time because of allegations.

[wwharton]

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I hadn't really kept up with him or his incident, but that just broke all over Twitter as the DA confirmed they would not be pursing charges. The injuries sustained are consistent with a scuffle, not an attack, and both parties stated Jane Doe struck first.

via https://twitter.com/RapSheet

Yeah I just found this on yahoo.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/da-wont-file-charges-against-49ers-ray-mcdonald-175421800--nfl.html

I know I keep beating this horse but that's because it's not dead. I'm not one to bash Goodell to death but a simple overreaction to the public has gotten them in all kinds of hot water. I'm not sure how this case is different (to the law) than Rice's case so will he be suspended? Should he? Are we back to it being a video tape that determines length of punishment. Props to the 49ers for staying "professional" with all of this.