NFC Wild Card Games Discussion Thread

[SPTO]

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He has shown that he can make throws, but he also locks in on his first read way too much instead of reading the defense pre-snap. I want to see that improve next season.

At one point in the game Collinsworth said that once Trubisky gets off his first read his numbers go down significantly. I think it's actually understandable why he locks on so much. He hasn't played much QB relatively speaking. It's a habit that can be taught out of him if he dedicates himself in the film room and with the right QB coach.

[KG]

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2 quick points:



1) If I'm a Bears fan, I'm highly impressed by Trubisky's night. In his first playoff game, he looked like he belonged with huge throws. After a horrible rookie season, man has he looked good this season. I hope it continues into next season.



2) Whomever the WR coach is for the Bears, can they teach these guys how to run after the catch?



1 question:



Why was Al Michaels saying "...he hit the crossbar again!" I didn't catch the end of the game.

His jump from Year 1 to Year 2 was good but he was pretty suspect all day today. He’s good for like 2-3 late throws a game and all three really bad throws today should have been picked. I also thought Nagy put him in bad spots. How does Cohen only get 4 touches? That 2pt conversion jet sweep to Gabriel was the 3rd time he ran some form of a jet to Gabriel.

Credit to the Eagles though, big game players.


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[seasprite]

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Hats off to Trubisky, I honestly didn’t think he would play that well and he has an excellent game.


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[SPTO]

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Hats off to Trubisky, I honestly didn’t think he would play that well and he has an excellent game.


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I think he's going to reach higher potential next season. The Bears may have a QB they can really depend on for the first time in YEARS.

[phenom1990]

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Am I the only Eagles fan who thought the refs made the right call on the 2 point conversion?

[seasprite]

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Am I the only Eagles fan who thought the refs made the right call on the 2 point conversion?

It was the correct call


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[areobee401]

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So I saw the idea that the kick may have been tipped by Hester. Anybody with good eye sight able to confirm that?

https://mobile.twitter.com/scottgustin/status/1082095504970919936

Hester said he got a price of it.

[roadman]

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Bears fans, great season, nothing to be ashamed of, entertaining game to watch.

ITT nailed it, the Bears are on the rise at the moment.

[Speedy]

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https://mobile.twitter.com/scottgust...95504970919936

Hester said he got a price of it.

I'm not seeing it.

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[Jr.]

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I'm not seeing it.

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I can maybe kind of see his fingers flap back, but it's so grainy it's impossible to say for sure

[p_rushing]

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I'm not seeing it.

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I can maybe kind of see his fingers flap back, but it's so grainy it's impossible to say for sure

If he did touch it, he didn't change the rotation of the ball

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[rkwittem]

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Several observations from Bears game:

Parkey blew it, but he wasn't the first one to blow the game for the Bears.

Josh Bellamy fell down on a long pass that would have been a TD had he kept his footing.

Jordan Howard tripped on a run in the 3rd quarter that would have gone for a lot more yards, maybe a TD.

Anthony Miller dropped that deflected INT in the EZ that would've also been a TD.

The last FG should have been 5 yards closer because Michael Bennett was deliberately getting in Trubisky's and Whitehair's way when they were trying to spike it. The umpire was right there. The ref was looking right at Trubisky. Considering DeMarcus Lawrence got a delay of game penalty vs the Bucs for pointing at a Bucs' OL when they flinched, and Bennett got off scot-free, I have no idea what to make of that, other than Bennett is a colossal tool, which is already widely known anyway.

I am sick of QBs tossing up junk and getting bailed out by ticky-tack calls or dumb luck. I wish the refs rewarded skill more often.

Oh, and with all of these rules experts in the booths getting reviews and calls wrong, the only real takeaway that the NFL needs to realize is that their rulebook is idiotically and needlessly complex. If those guys can't get it right with all of the advantages they have- no pressure to perform, access to multiple monitors, etc, how the hell can the NFL expect their guys on the field to get it right?
I don't remember ever having to split hairs like this back in the 80s, 90s, or early 2000s. When did this league get so damn litigious about calls? It suggests that the rules are vague by design, so they can influence outcomes. I don't know if I want to (or do) believe this, but it raises a little suspicion in me.

I'm probably in the minority, but I want replay eliminated. It bogs the games down, they can't get it right half the time anyway it seems, and they (the refs) don't know how to use it less. They're addicted to it. If you can't figure it out in 30 seconds, play stands, move along. Now they have to review every play it seems. I know this is totally off-topic but I kept thinking about this during the WC round.

[mestevo]

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Several observations from Bears game:

Parkey blew it, but he wasn't the first one to blow the game for the Bears.

Josh Bellamy fell down on a long pass that would have been a TD had he kept his footing.

Jordan Howard tripped on a run in the 3rd quarter that would have gone for a lot more yards, maybe a TD.

Anthony Miller dropped that deflected INT in the EZ that would've also been a TD.

The last FG should have been 5 yards closer because Michael Bennett was deliberately getting in Trubisky's and Whitehair's way when they were trying to spike it. The umpire was right there. The ref was looking right at Trubisky. Considering DeMarcus Lawrence got a delay of game penalty vs the Bucs for pointing at a Bucs' OL when they flinched, and Bennett got off scot-free, I have no idea what to make of that, other than Bennett is a colossal tool, which is already widely known anyway.

I am sick of QBs tossing up junk and getting bailed out by ticky-tack calls or dumb luck. I wish the refs rewarded skill more often.

Oh, and with all of these rules experts in the booths getting reviews and calls wrong, the only real takeaway that the NFL needs to realize is that their rulebook is idiotically and needlessly complex. If those guys can't get it right with all of the advantages they have- no pressure to perform, access to multiple monitors, etc, how the hell can the NFL expect their guys on the field to get it right?
I don't remember ever having to split hairs like this back in the 80s, 90s, or early 2000s. When did this league get so damn litigious about calls? It suggests that the rules are vague by design, so they can influence outcomes. I don't know if I want to (or do) believe this, but it raises a little suspicion in me.

I'm probably in the minority, but I want replay eliminated. It bogs the games down, they can't get it right half the time anyway it seems, and they (the refs) don't know how to use it less. They're addicted to it. If you can't figure it out in 30 seconds, play stands, move along. Now they have to review every play it seems. I know this is totally off-topic but I kept thinking about this during the WC round.

80's, 90's and 2000's didn't have 4k or social media. It's always fun to rail against the abstract, but what rules do you want actually changed other than removing replay after clearly stating refs make mistakes -- you seem to not want the correct call to prevail when they do. You don't think that would make the situations you describe even worse?

[Jr.]

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If he did touch it, he didn't change the rotation of the ball

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Well just by physics he had to have changed it some. You can't touch something that's moving and not change it to some degree. Maybe someone really good at math can figure out how much the deflection affected the ball.

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[itsmb8]

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80's, 90's and 2000's didn't have 4k or social media. It's always fun to rail against the abstract, but what rules do you want actually changed other than removing replay after clearly stating refs make mistakes -- you seem to not want the correct call to prevail when they do. You don't think that would make the situations you describe even worse?

Several observations from Bears game:

Parkey blew it, but he wasn't the first one to blow the game for the Bears.

Josh Bellamy fell down on a long pass that would have been a TD had he kept his footing.

Jordan Howard tripped on a run in the 3rd quarter that would have gone for a lot more yards, maybe a TD.

Anthony Miller dropped that deflected INT in the EZ that would've also been a TD.

The last FG should have been 5 yards closer because Michael Bennett was deliberately getting in Trubisky's and Whitehair's way when they were trying to spike it. The umpire was right there. The ref was looking right at Trubisky. Considering DeMarcus Lawrence got a delay of game penalty vs the Bucs for pointing at a Bucs' OL when they flinched, and Bennett got off scot-free, I have no idea what to make of that, other than Bennett is a colossal tool, which is already widely known anyway.

I am sick of QBs tossing up junk and getting bailed out by ticky-tack calls or dumb luck. I wish the refs rewarded skill more often.

Oh, and with all of these rules experts in the booths getting reviews and calls wrong, the only real takeaway that the NFL needs to realize is that their rulebook is idiotically and needlessly complex. If those guys can't get it right with all of the advantages they have- no pressure to perform, access to multiple monitors, etc, how the hell can the NFL expect their guys on the field to get it right?
I don't remember ever having to split hairs like this back in the 80s, 90s, or early 2000s. When did this league get so damn litigious about calls? It suggests that the rules are vague by design, so they can influence outcomes. I don't know if I want to (or do) believe this, but it raises a little suspicion in me.

I'm probably in the minority, but I want replay eliminated. It bogs the games down, they can't get it right half the time anyway it seems, and they (the refs) don't know how to use it less. They're addicted to it. If you can't figure it out in 30 seconds, play stands, move along. Now they have to review every play it seems. I know this is totally off-topic but I kept thinking about this during the WC round.

If they use replay and end up getting the correct call, fine. But most of the time they still get the call wrong. I mean, we have 2 prime examples just from today! 1) Derek Watt caught that TD and rolled into the endzone but the refs said, after replay, that the ball didnt cross the plane when it clearly did. But then after that, they spot the ball at the 1 yd line instead of the 1 ft line which leads to the Gordon TD on the next play that was a TD and shouldve been a TD because of the play before. And then 2) Miller caught the ball, fumbled, and the play was ruled dead before someone recovered. If you call it dead, fine (even though they should really let every play go until its forsure dead), but why is it incomplete? He caught the ball, just because you call it dead doesnt mean it should be incomplete to be "fair" or some ****. From the NFL rulebook directly: If the ball is a loose ball resulting from a fumble, backward pass, or illegal forward pass, the team
last in possession may elect to put the ball in play at the spot where possession was lost or to
replay the down. Therefore, Chicago, the team last in possession, shouldve had the option to take the ball where possession was lost AFTER THE CATCH or replay the down. The problem everyone has with the NFL and its referees is the rulebook is so complex that 2+ rules are viable for seemingly every situation with multiple outcomes and that it looks like the refs are making it up as they go every time a questionable play goes to replay.