2022 Offseason Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I’d wager a lot of money that them AFC West division matchups all gonna be on National TV next season.

[cima]

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AFC is a ****ing gauntlet of QBs, reminds me of when LeBron was in the east and the WC was stacked.

AFC:
- Mahomes
- Allen
- Burrow
- Herbert
- Wilson
- Jackson (people get mad if I leave him off even though he's a RB, lmao jk)

NFC:
- Rodgers
- Stafford
...

[ggsimmonds]

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I'm waiting to hear what ransom Denver had to pay.

I'd be hesitant to break the story if I didn't know what the core package being traded away was

[illwill10]

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I'm waiting to hear what ransom Denver had to pay.

I'd be hesitant to break the story if I didn't know what the core package being traded away was

"
Trade package:

Seattle gets QB Drew Lock, TE Noah Fant, DL Shelby Harris, two first-round picks, two second-round picks and a fifth-round pick.

Denver gets Russell Wilson and a fourth-round pick."

[ggsimmonds]

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"
Trade package:

Seattle gets QB Drew Lock, TE Noah Fant, DL Shelby Harris, two first-round picks, two second-round picks and a fifth-round pick.

Denver gets Russell Wilson and a fourth-round pick."

Just saw the tweet myself. Thats quite a haul

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Still got them other weapons on Offense and Defense too.

Bronco Fans, what y’all think about this?

[ggsimmonds]

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I'm curious to see if Denver fans had a preference for giving up additional picks or the players that were involved.

I'd value Fant as a 1st, not sure on Harris after reading up on him.

[Jr.]

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Not a Denver fan but living in the area, I think Denver fans will be more than happy with the players that were traded. Fant has been a disappointment, Harris is a good but not great player, and Lock was never going to be the QB in Denver.

The picks are a lot, but I'm sure they're expecting to compete for AFC titles so those should be late 1sts and 2nds

I think Denver fans are going to be really happy they didn't have to give up Surtain, or one of the WRs

[Majingir]

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What a crazy day.

Wilson to Broncos, Rodgers staying long term in GB.

I wonder what that means for Jordan Love. A Jimmy G situation where he's just never gonna start so they'll move him?

[ggsimmonds]

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Not a Denver fan but living in the area, I think Denver fans will be more than happy with the players that were traded. Fant has been a disappointment, Harris is a good but not great player, and Lock was never going to be the QB in Denver.

The picks are a lot, but I'm sure they're expecting to compete for AFC titles so those should be late 1sts and 2nds

I think Denver fans are going to be really happy they didn't have to give up Surtain, or one of the WRs

Thats why I'm curious though because I've seen Denver fans praise Fant and claim he is underrated and that his numbers aren't as good because of the QB situation.

[mestevo]

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I think there's a lot to be happy about, absolutely. Just a lot to give up to compete in a stacked division, let alone the state of the AFC.

Any given Sunday though, and they've certainly gotten a lot better on the eve of the franchise changing hands.

AFC West plays the NFC West this year, and the Broncos will be playing in Seattle.

[kehlis]

2022 Offseason Thread

Thats why I'm curious though because I've seen Denver fans praise Fant and claim he is underrated and that his numbers aren't as good because of the QB situation.

Fant is very overrated unless you like a TE who does nothing but catch short passes and then take the quickest route OB because he’s afraid of contact.

He’s been a disappointed (granted who knows what he could have done with different QB’s).

I’ll miss Harris the most, he was loved by the entire team and the community (silly reason, I know).

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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AFC is a ****ing gauntlet of QBs, reminds me of when LeBron was in the east and the WC was stacked.
..
NFC:
- Rodgers
- Stafford
...

Dak and Kyler would be competing for 3rd best in the NFC. But yeah, jeez imagine if Mac Jones or Trevor Lawrence take the leap.

I'd value Fant as a 1st

Why? He's alright, but he's never really been a standout among the AFC's tight ends, and you only get two cost-controlled years.

[Jr.]

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Thats why I'm curious though because I've seen Denver fans praise Fant and claim he is underrated and that his numbers aren't as good because of the QB situation.

Fant is very overrated unless you like a TE who does nothing but catch short passes and then take the quickest route OB because he’s afraid of contact.

He’s been a disappointed (granted who knows what he could have done with different QB’s).

I’ll miss Harris the most, he was loved by the entire team and the community (silly reason, I know).

What Kehlis said. He's injury prone, on top of that. He might blow up with a better QB or a different offense because of his athleticism, but he's been underwhelming as a 1st round pick.


I wonder if Seattle gives Lock the keys this year or if they look at a QB in the draft. Maybe another trade back from 9 for more picks

[ggsimmonds]

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Fant is very overrated unless you like a TE who does nothing but catch short passes and then take the quickest route OB because he’s afraid of contact.

He’s been a disappointed (granted who knows what he could have done with different QB’s).

I’ll miss Harris the most, he was loved by the entire team and the community (silly reason, I know).

I always believed that TEs suffer less from poor QBs than outside WRs. TE is that safe security blanket. Don't get me wrong, Andrews is an elite TE, but he also benefited from the team's passing struggles, especially after Lamar went down.

I don't think its a silly reason. You were a fan of the guy and not just the production.

Dak and Kyler would be competing for 3rd best in the NFC. But yeah, jeez imagine if Mac Jones or Trevor Lawrence take the leap.





Why? He's alright, but he's never really been a standout among the AFC's tight ends, and you only get two cost-controlled years.

I think people overvalue 1st round picks. He's an above average starter and though still young has shown some consistency putting up numbers in a offense thats not pass heavy. He was top 10 in receiving yards by a tight end and only 24. I think thats good enough to argue he is worth a late 1st to late 2nd. I imagine part of the negotiations involved Denver saying his value is that of a 1st and Seattle saying its a 2nd. Whats the old saying, a bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush? Or something like that lol