2022 Offseason Thread

[georgiafan]

Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

Atlanta trading for Watson would be beyond crazy and the new GM would soon be out of a job. You can't just overlook the off the field concerns that stuff matters. You also may already have burnt the bridge with your starting QB arguable the best player in franchise history.

Atlanta currently has no cap space the weapons would have to be in the bottom few teams in the league. For example currently we don't have a starting caliber HB, WR and a OL thats terrible. They would be no real way to improve the team going forward with no cap space or high draft picks.

Its also rumored to take three 1st, multiple 2nds and a key defense player like A.J or Dion Jones. You would also have to cut Grady Jarret one of the only good defense players on the team.

I can’t make sense of Watson going to ATL. That team is barren, and will be even more so when they trade picks and players for him. They’re in for a long few years.

With Saints getting a second meeting, it looks like they could be the likely destination. Out of the 4 interested teams, Saints are probably the best chance to win right away. As you said, ATL is years away and that's before you trade the assets required to get Watson. Panthers are probably going to have to give up a key young player like Burns and they are a team that needs their firsts because they aren't a team that's a QB away. Saints still have talent on both sides and solid line. Main issue with Saints will always be cap because they have been kicking the can for the past few years

[georgiafan]

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There is nothing the falcons will ever do to be more popular then the college football team in the state. The best they can hope for in the state is #3 behind the Braves.

He grew up like 10 miles from the stadium and I can see the Falcons needing to recapture some energy from that city - it's in danger of being taken over by the Bulldogs.

I'm hearing the A.J would be part of the deal and Grady have to be cut

Just seen a report that many around the league believe Atlanta is the landing spot for Watson later today. id imagine that a package aroubd Deion Jones/Graddy Garrett plus picks is what itll be. Think Terrell and Pitts are untouchable for Atlanta

[ProfessaPackMan]

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People still think Gardner Minshew can turn into something? What is it about him that excites people? Lol

I’m definitely taking Baker or Jimmy over him in the short term and long term.

[illwill10]

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"The #Browns have been informed they’re out of the running for Deshaun Watson, a source says. The team still views Baker Mayfield as their quarterback going forward. They told Mayfield’s agents at the Combine they’d only explore top-tier QBs such as Watson."

[kenp86]

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"The #Browns have been informed they’re out of the running for Deshaun Watson, a source says. The team still views Baker Mayfield as their quarterback going forward. They told Mayfield’s agents at the Combine they’d only explore top-tier QBs such as Watson."

Was that before or after someone in the Browns FO said they want "an adult" at the position lol Bakers gone and Jimmy G will be in soon

[slickdtc]

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What is it about him that excites people? Lol

His goofiness and the allure of the backup QB.

His raw numbers were pretty good on Jags teams that have been bad, though that doesn’t always matter (hi Carson Wentz!). I don’t know if he makes a leap in to the upper echelon ever, but if I’m trying to get a QB, settling for G or Baker and their contract and track record of being decent but not good enough seems like a worse idea then a short, cheap tryout for Minshew.

It would be pretty major degree of settling for any of those guys when you’re going franchise QB hunting, I just think he’s the best option on the field and on the books of that group.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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His goofiness

This is underrated. A lot of the best QBs (Rivers, Manning, Pats-era Brady) are total red asses, so guys who look like they actually enjoy playing football like Minshew get a lot of fan support. That evaporates pretty quick if he can't back it up, but he's a lot of fun to root for until then.

[ggsimmonds]

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Legally yes, but for all practical purposes no. If Josh Allen was cut before that money triggered, the Bills would eat an $80 million dead cap hit, twice as high as his live hit. I can't imagine a scenario that would get the team to turn on him so quickly that they would blow up the entire roster just to unload him. So, in any realistic sense, that money is guaranteed because there's no way to get rid of him before then.





You're counting the 2024 roster bonus, which is easy to do as it triggered three years early, the same week he signed the deal. It belongs in the $100 gt'd at signing bucket.





Restructures only increase the guarantee - it converts un-guaranteed base salary into signing bonus. There's no downside for the player, which is why it can be done without their agreement.

Oops I see where I missed it now.

Yeah when the dead cap cost outweighs the cap hit that provides some security for a player, but its not a legal guarantee written into the contract. Josh's contract is so massive the dead cap cost makes it almost ironclad that they won't release him then, but thats not always the case. Hard to imagine its been over ten years already, but the Cowboys released Owens when it cost them $9M to do so.

Anyway spotrac has updated Von's contract numbers a bit to bring in the GTD at signing closer to total GTD.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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His goofiness and the allure of the backup QB.

His raw numbers were pretty good on Jags teams that have been bad, though that doesn’t always matter (hi Carson Wentz!). I don’t know if he makes a leap in to the upper echelon ever, but if I’m trying to get a QB, settling for G or Baker and their contract and track record of being decent but not good enough seems like a worse idea then a short, cheap tryout for Minshew.

It would be pretty major degree of settling for any of those guys when you’re going franchise QB hunting, I just think he’s the best option on the field and on the books of that group.

It’s a probably good chance you’re not franchise QB hunting if you’re considering those 3.

If anything, you’re probably looking for someone who can be good enough to get you one of those 3 WC spots and you already have a solid enough roster to contend for one of them and if that‘s the case, then it’s either Jimmy or Baker.

[ggsimmonds]

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People still think Gardner Minshew can turn into something? What is it about him that excites people? Lol

I’m definitely taking Baker or Jimmy over him in the short term and long term.

Its similar to the Jeremy Lin craze several years back. Its more that people really want him to be good cause of his personality. So often they convince themselves that he is/can be as good as they want.

"The #Browns have been informed they’re out of the running for Deshaun Watson, a source says. The team still views Baker Mayfield as their quarterback going forward. They told Mayfield’s agents at the Combine they’d only explore top-tier QBs such as Watson."

lol good job Browns. Odds Baker will request a trade now?

[kenp86]

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It’s a probably good chance you’re not franchise QB hunting if you’re considering those 3.

If anything, you’re probably looking for someone who can be good enough to get you one of those 3 WC spots and you already have a solid enough roster to contend for one of them and if that‘s the case, then it’s either Jimmy or Baker.

They can have Jordan Love for a 2nd lol

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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Cole Beasley gets cut. Not surprising considering he wanted out, but would probably make for a good security blanket for another developing QB.

[ggsimmonds]

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It’s a probably good chance you’re not franchise QB hunting if you’re considering those 3.

If anything, you’re probably looking for someone who can be good enough to get you one of those 3 WC spots and you already have a solid enough roster to contend for one of them and if that‘s the case, then it’s either Jimmy or Baker.

They're bridge QBs for teams that need a franchise QB but can't get one at the time. Of the 3 Baker is probably the one that you hope could become a long term answer. Aren't we entering Baker's final season? He's the ideal bridge QB.

[illwill10]

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Kyle Pitts tweeted that it's going to be scary in Atlanta and deleted it within 8 minutes.

[georgiafan]

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I just don't see how any rational person on a team with almost no weapons and OL. Could trade three 1st, multiple 2nds and a at least 1 starting player. To get a QB that just missed the season for a serious sexual assault claims. One of those picks will be the 9th in the draft. Before he even plays for the team the headline will be "Falcons New QB suspended".