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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #646
    Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

    The virtue signaling on Twitter is a sight to see.
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #647
      Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by ggsimmonds
      There's always flexibility in when you pay the bill, I think what he meant to say was that there's no escaping the full bill. There's no point where they would be able to cut their losses early
      I don’t even care about the number he’s getting paid, since that’s always leaked by the agent

      I’m curious in seeing what the contract actually looks like because I imagine there are gonna be some clauses in that contract which could allow them to cut bait and allow them cut bait and not get crushed financially should something happen off the field.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • ggsimmonds
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jan 2009
        • 11235

        #648
        Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        I don’t even care about the number he’s getting paid, since that’s always leaked by the agent

        I’m curious in seeing what the contract actually looks like because I imagine there are gonna be some clauses in that contract which could allow them to cut bait and allow them cut bait and not get crushed financially should something happen off the field.
        I doubt there's any language in there that goes beyond the CBA

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        • reyes the roof
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 11526

          #649
          Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

          That’s probably how Cleveland got back in the mix, offer him huge guaranteed money with no way for them to get out of it that other teams weren’t willing to do

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #650
            Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

            What I’m mentioning wouldn’t go beyond the CBA though.

            Like if Deshaun were to wake up one day and commit murder and then get locked up, I imagine they have some type of moral clause in there(which is standard)that would allow them to cut bait.
            #RespectTheCulture

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            • IlluminatusUIUC
              MVP
              • Jan 2010
              • 2671

              #651
              Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by mestevo
              There's always flexibility, for example I wouldn't be surprised next offseason a restructure, add some voidable years, pay out some bonus money and stretch the deal out.
              My understanding, please correct me, is that you can only restructure unguaranteed base salary into guaranteed bonuses to push cap hits into the future. The player doesn't even have to agree, because you're giving them a benefit: their unguaranteed money becomes guaranteed.

              But if every dollar is already guaranteed, there's nowhere for it to go. You have nothing to convert. Right?
              Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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              • reyes the roof
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 11526

                #652
                Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC
                My understanding, please correct me, is that you can only restructure unguaranteed base salary into guaranteed bonuses to push cap hits into the future. The player doesn't even have to agree, because you're giving them a benefit: their unguaranteed money becomes guaranteed.

                But if every dollar is already guaranteed, there's nowhere for it to go. You have nothing to convert. Right?
                You could still convert guaranteed salary to a bonus. Instead of getting their guaranteed salary over the course of 17 game checks they’ll get whatever you’re converting in one big chunk whenever the agreement is made

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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #653
                  Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                  Thought the Browns said they prefer an adult to play the QB position?

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #654
                    2022 Offseason Thread

                    Duplicate post
                    Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 03-18-2022, 04:45 PM. Reason: Duplicate post
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • mpklub
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 539

                      #655
                      Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by kehlis
                      Thought the Browns said they prefer an adult to play the QB position?
                      Relative to Baker, Watson is arguably the model of maturity....at least when it comes to things like not being passive aggressive, with the media and seemingly in the locker room too.

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                      Last edited by mpklub; 03-18-2022, 05:30 PM.

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                      • illwill10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 19822

                        #656
                        Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                        "Strong safety Anthony Harris, the former Vikings’ franchise player who spent last season with the Eagles, is returning to Philadelphia on a one-year deal, per source."

                        Ehh, I guess I'm okay with it. He wasn't bad, just wasn't as impactful as we hoped. Still need to address Safety position in draft

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                        • PVarck31
                          Moderator
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16869

                          #657
                          Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                          I'm not gonna pretend there is no moral questionability here.

                          But strictly football speaking, I am excited to see what Watson can do for us. You could make the argument that Watson is the best QB the Browns have had since Otto Graham. That is of course depending on him getting back to his old form. Which I don't see being an issue.

                          And I used to be a Baker apologist. But this past year, he made his bed. He's immature. You don't see any other QB's acting like he does. I think it was just yesterday where he tweeted at a Cleveland reporter and told her to basically shut up and stop using his name to put food on her table. Like really?

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                          • cima
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 13478

                            #658
                            Re: 2022 Offseason Thread



                            Glad this circus is finally over but a guy that's going through all these accusations to get the most money guaranteed EVER, from a team he got to hand-pick by forcing his way out of his current team just rubs me the wrong way.

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                            • TheMatrix31
                              RF
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 52915

                              #659
                              Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                              Carolina and Atlanta would have had better offers that included players but I guess this is what happens when you cede all control of your operation to hostage-takers like Deshaun Watson.

                              Couldn't be happier that that guy is gone. What a fall from grace.

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                              • dickey1331
                                Everyday is Faceurary!
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 14285

                                #660
                                2022 Offseason Thread

                                Well I certainly didn’t see the Browns winning this one. Will be interesting to see what happens and see if the Texans get anyone good in the draft.


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