2014 OS "Who To Start" Thread

[dieselboy]

Re: 2014 OS "Who To Start" Thread

I'm quite loaded at Running Back right now due to great add/drop moves.

I have Alfred Morris, Andre Ellington, Chris Ivory, Fred Jackson, Matt Asiata, Ronnie Hillman, and Knowshon Moreno. I don't know which 3 to start lol


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Morris and Ellington...and then if Moreno plays Sunday, him...otherwise, Asiata.

[wwharton]

Re: 2014 OS "Who To Start" Thread

I'm quite loaded at Running Back right now due to great add/drop moves.

I have Alfred Morris, Andre Ellington, Chris Ivory, Fred Jackson, Matt Asiata, Ronnie Hillman, and Knowshon Moreno. I don't know which 3 to start lol


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Is it a PPR? If so I'd go with Ellington, Jackson, Hillman.

If not, Morris, Ellington, Asiata.

Since you can, I'd wait a week to see Moreno before playing him. But you're right, you can blindly throw darts an field a group that should do pretty well this week.

Who to start this week?

Luck vs Texans or Cutler vs Falcons
Spiller vs Patriots or Greene vs Jaguars

[thefakeJTS]

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It is a PPR league. What makes you so high on Hillman? And I'm not wanting to start Morris because of the Cardinals D


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[Blzer]

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I have Kendall Wright (TEN) and Keenan Allen (SD).

Is it wise that I start them when my opponent has Delanie Walker (TEN) and Antonio Gates (SD)? Those TE's get targeted quite often and around the end zone, and obviously can take away from my boys racking up some points.

I'm wondering if I should switch over to, say, Sammy Watkins (BUF) instead, and maybe find another WR from free agency.

I just feel like maybe I should "Put all my nuts in one basket," and compete head-to-head with this guy in hoping that I can take away TD's from these other two simply by hoping my guys get targeted at the right time.

[dieselboy]

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I have Kendall Wright (TEN) and Keenan Allen (SD).

Is it wise that I start them when my opponent has Delanie Walker (TEN) and Antonio Gates (SD)? Those TE's get targeted quite often and around the end zone, and obviously can take away from my boys racking up some points.

I'm wondering if I should switch over to, say, Sammy Watkins (BUF) instead, and maybe find another WR from free agency.

I just feel like maybe I should "Put all my nuts in one basket," and compete head-to-head with this guy in hoping that I can take away TD's from these other two simply by hoping my guys get targeted at the right time.

Gates and Walker will be those teams Tight Ends all year....I don't understand your logic here.

[Blzer]

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Gates and Walker will be those teams Tight Ends all year....I don't understand your logic here.

I'm not sure if you know what I'm asking.

Is it worth my two WR's being Allen and Wright this week when I have an opponent who will probably get a bunch of targets with Gates and Walker (and hope to both get and take away points from this guy), or should I pursue starting other WR's instead and not try two overtake this two-headed beast?

[Rocky]

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Lost some RB's to byes so I'm looking at:

Lamar Miller vs. GB
Bishop Sankey v. Oakland

[fsufan]

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Who should i start at my flex position in a standard ppr league?

Ben Tate vs Pitt
Pierre Garcon vs Arizona
Joique Bell vs Minnesota
Ronnie Hillman vs NYJ
or Mohammed Sanu vs Carolina since he wiil be the #1 target this week

Also should i start Sanu or Garcon over V Jax as my Wr 2?

AJ Green getting hurt again killed me

[jeremym480]

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Should I start Ben Tate vs. PIT over Alfred Morris (@ ARI) as my RB2 or Victor Cruz (@ PHI) as my FLEX?

[dieselboy]

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I'm not sure if you know what I'm asking.

Is it worth my two WR's being Allen and Wright this week when I have an opponent who will probably get a bunch of targets with Gates and Walker (and hope to both get and take away points from this guy), or should I pursue starting other WR's instead and not try two overtake this two-headed beast?

That still doesn't make any sense.

[Blzer]

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That still doesn't make any sense.

I dunno, it makes sense to me. I just explained it to one of my students (who doesn't do fantasy football, mind you), and she not only totally understood it, but she completed some of my sentences for me in what I was trying to say.

So I'll try one more time, haha. (here comes a tl;dr post though)

One might assume that Tennessee will score touchdowns this week. If they do, it will come in the hands from one of several people. The way I see it, every TD that one guy scores means it's a TD that another guy from that team didn't score. So if I'm lucky, Wright scoring a TD would technically mean that Walker is not scoring a TD. Not only am I prospering in getting points, but I also know that my opponent is not getting points as a result. Same goes for San Diego with Allen and Gates. Granted, there's a chance that they both score the same amount, but at least I know I'm "breaking even" in that sense.

Here's an easier example: playing a quarterback against your opposition's defense. If you think about it, since you're already holding onto hope that your opponent's defense does poorly, you might as well consider starting the quarterback that is going against them, so that if his defense suffers, your quarterback certainly also prospers. It is "double or nothing" deal you're going with by doing that. I know you can say, "Well yeah, but you can always just choose your other quarterback and he can do well while that other defense does poorly." While this is true, now you're banking on two things to happen in your favor, rather just one (that would technically affect both of them all the same).

I'll try a non-fantasy football example, like roulette in a casino. You might place chips on a variety of items that are not mutually exclusive, such as black numbers, evens, and 3rd 12's. However, you know that no matter what you win, you're also losing something as a result. What if you instead played roulette so that you placed all evens, and then let's say... the 2, 6, 18, and 30. Now you know that if you land on one of those guys, you are getting significantly more knowing that you're going to benefit from multiple sources. Anyway, I digress...

My only real question is whether or not my WR's will get enough chances in the red zone to make this a reasonable move. If I feel like his TE's will get all of the TD's that my receivers could have possibly gotten, then I wouldn't ever consider starting these guys and I would put someone else in their place instead. Same would have gone for the QB/defense example.

Am I the only one who's getting this question?

[BlueNGold]

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Just play Allen and Wright.

[JohnDoe8865]

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Start T. Bridgewater or Austin Davis at QB2 this week?

Start Rueben Randle or Mike Evans (if he plays) at Flex?

[dieselboy]

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Start T. Bridgewater or Austin Davis at QB2 this week?

Start Rueben Randle or Mike Evans (if he plays) at Flex?

I would go Davis and Randle.

Both QBs are at home. Both are rookies. Playing average defenses. Bridgewater looked good in his first start but I don't know if he is going to put up numbers like that each week. Davis has been putting up decent numbers for a few games now.

Randle is a red zone target for an offense that is clicking. They play a very bad Eagles defense this week. He's the play over Evans and it's not even close.

[dieselboy]

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One might assume that Tennessee will score touchdowns this week. If they do, it will come in the hands from one of several people. The way I see it, every TD that one guy scores means it's a TD that another guy from that team didn't score. So if I'm lucky, Wright scoring a TD would technically mean that Walker is not scoring a TD. Not only am I prospering in getting points, but I also know that my opponent is not getting points as a result. Same goes for San Diego with Allen and Gates. Granted, there's a chance that they both score the same amount, but at least I know I'm "breaking even" in that sense.

Here's an easier example: playing a quarterback against your opposition's defense. If you think about it, since you're already holding onto hope that your opponent's defense does poorly, you might as well consider starting the quarterback that is going against them, so that if his defense suffers, your quarterback certainly also prospers. It is "double or nothing" deal you're going with by doing that. I know you can say, "Well yeah, but you can always just choose your other quarterback and he can do well while that other defense does poorly." While this is true, now you're banking on two things to happen in your favor, rather just one (that would technically affect both of them all the same).

I'll try a non-fantasy football example, like roulette in a casino. You might place chips on a variety of items that are not mutually exclusive, such as black numbers, evens, and 3rd 12's. However, you know that no matter what you win, you're also losing something as a result. What if you instead played roulette so that you placed all evens, and then let's say... the 2, 6, 18, and 30. Now you know that if you land on one of those guys, you are getting significantly more knowing that you're going to benefit from multiple sources. Anyway, I digress...

My only real question is whether or not my WR's will get enough chances in the red zone to make this a reasonable move. If I feel like his TE's will get all of the TD's that my receivers could have possibly gotten, then I wouldn't ever consider starting these guys and I would put someone else in their place instead. Same would have gone for the QB/defense example.

Am I the only one who's getting this question?

A few things here:

1.) Predicting touchdowns in Fantasy Football is almost impossible. There are numerous studies done that show year to year TD varies drastically. Game to game is even worse. That's why yards are a better barometer year to year or game to game to predict fantasy success.

2.) I still don't see how playing against the TEs affects the performance of those two WRs for this week. The point of a head-to-head fantasy match-up is just to see who has the most points by the end of the week. What if you were playing this team last week? By your logic, you would have benched Kendall Wright because you were playing Delanie Walker. Wright had two TDs, 47 receiving yards on 8 targets and 43 rushing yards on 2 carries. Walker had 47 yards on four targets. In Wright's best game last year, he had 6 receptions, 103 yards and a TD on 7 targets. In that same game, Walker had just 5 receptions for 46 yards. In Keenan Allen's best game this season, he put up 10 receptions for 135 yards on 12 targets. Gates had 3-30 on 5 targets that game. In his best game last year, Allen 8-128-1 on 11 targets. Gates 6-53-0 on 10 targets.

3.) Vegas is predicting the Chargers score three touchdowns against the Raiders. They are predicting the Titans to score three against the Jaguars. Therefore, just because the TEs MIGHT score...so MIGHT the WRs.

4.) Your casino example doesn't correlate either. If Antonio Gates goes for 100 yards and a TD that doesn't necessarily mean that Keenan Allen can't go for 100 yards and 2 TDs. It just means that Antonio Gates had a good game.

5.) Both teams have favorable match-ups. Again the point of head to head matchups is to score the most points your team can in one week. You shouldn't even really look at your opponents team because it's fantasy you aren't actually playing against that team. Benching them because you are playing the WR's teams TE's I think would be a huge mistake. By your logic would you bench Demaryius Thomas if you wee playing Julius Thomas?