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  • av7
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 11408

    #721
    Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

    Originally posted by yvesdereuter
    Oh they hypocrisy. When McDaniels looks to trade Cutler, the mantra was, "its a business." But now when Marshall holds out because for the same reason (i.e. its a business) and people still defend the regime that hasnt proven squat yet.

    Unbelievable.
    I'd argue with you but I already know not to bother, it's a waste of time.
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    • av7
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 11408

      #722
      Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

      http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

      ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Kyle Orton will be the Denver Broncos' starting quarterback.

      Coach Josh McDaniels made the announcement Saturday as the team readied for Sunday's final day of on-field prep for training camp in late July. The former Chicago Bears quarterback took all the snaps behind the first-team offensive line during Saturday's practice.

      Orton has been competing for the starting position with Chris Simms.

      Orton came to Denver on April 3 as part of the trade that allowed the Bears to get ex-Broncos No. 1 quarterback Jay Cutler.

      Orton completed 272 of 465 passes for 2,972 yards with Chicago last season, throwing 18 touchdowns and 12 interceptions
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      • Hammerhunker
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 3007

        #723
        Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

        Kind of a surprise that he didn't wait until sometime in training camp. Good move. It puts some confidence in Orton's corner.

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        • mKoz26
          In case you forgot...
          • Jan 2009
          • 4685

          #724
          Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

          Originally posted by yvesdereuter
          Wow, if that is what Dungy is suggesting, then how do the Colts justify bringing in Dungy since he was fired in Tampa for not being able to bring them to the next level. A little hypocritical there. Maybe Tony should be worried on preventing his other son from committing suicide.
          I was just snooping around on the Bronco's forum because I thought it'd be interesting to see what you guys thought of the Cutler trade/Orton/Marshall situation, but one thing, the bolded sentence, not cool at all. You just don't go there. Extremely rude to say that. I'm sorry, but that is not cool at all.
          Bears | Bulls | Cubs | Illinois | #Team3Some

          @CDonkey26

          Originally posted by baumy300
          Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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          • kehlis
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            • Jul 2008
            • 27738

            #725
            Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

            Originally posted by mKoz26
            I was just snooping around on the Bronco's forum because I thought it'd be interesting to see what you guys thought of the Cutler trade/Orton/Marshall situation, but one thing, the bolded sentence, not cool at all. You just don't go there. Extremely rude to say that. I'm sorry, but that is not cool at all.
            Don't lump us with him, he is not a Bronco fan and just comes here to talk to himself every now and again.

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            • mKoz26
              In case you forgot...
              • Jan 2009
              • 4685

              #726
              Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

              Originally posted by kehlis
              Don't lump us with him, he is not a Bronco fan and just comes here to talk to himself every now and again.
              I know better than to generalize a group off of one guy's actions.

              So how do you guys think you'll do this season? Do you think Kyle Orton is a legit starter, or will it be a rebuilding year?
              Bears | Bulls | Cubs | Illinois | #Team3Some

              @CDonkey26

              Originally posted by baumy300
              Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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              • kehlis
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                • Jul 2008
                • 27738

                #727
                Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                Originally posted by mKoz26
                So how do you guys think you'll do this season? Do you think Kyle Orton is a legit starter, or will it be a rebuilding year?
                I won't go as far as to say it will be a full blown rebuilding year, and I have made the mistake in the past at looking at a team and saying they will be terrible, but my personal stance is more of a wait and see.

                I'm not overly down the offense. I love Cutler, but it seems like this offense wouldn't have been the best for him to be in. McDaniels seems to be happy with Orton, and they have a great O-line, so we will see where the offense can go.

                The defense is a huge question mark and they could either be decent enough, or downright bad (again).

                Right now they have to fix the Marshall situation. It would be awful to lose him too.

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                • av7
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 11408

                  #728
                  Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                  Originally posted by mKoz26
                  I know better than to generalize a group off of one guy's actions.

                  So how do you guys think you'll do this season? Do you think Kyle Orton is a legit starter, or will it be a rebuilding year?
                  We'll be lucky to get 7 or 8 wins.
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                  • av7
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 11408

                    #729
                    Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                    Brandon Lloyd (WR) signs with the Broncos. I dont have a link

                    Interesting take from the radio guys, let Marshall sit since the Broncos dont have to do anything. They could franchise him after this year. Even if Shanahan was still here, Marshall wasn't guaranteed to get some big contract- remember Portis and Lelie?

                    Apparently Marshall's issue stems from the treatment he got from the Broncos' medical staff about his hip. They apparently said it was minor but when he went into surgery, the doctor said it had substantial damage. Marshall's trust issues come from that.
                    Last edited by av7; 06-15-2009, 05:21 PM.
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                    • Hammerhunker
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 3007

                      #730
                      Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                      Originally posted by yvesdereuter
                      Wow, if that is what Dungy is suggesting, then how do the Colts justify bringing in Dungy since he was fired in Tampa for not being able to bring them to the next level. A little hypocritical there. Maybe Tony should be worried on preventing his other son from committing suicide.
                      Holy Cow, who is this guy? I missed his comments earlier. NO CLASS

                      Originally posted by kehlis
                      , but my personal stance is more of a wait and see.
                      Our new mantra
                      Originally posted by avrbas
                      Brandon Lloyd (WR) signs with the Broncos. I dont have a link

                      Interesting take from the radio guys, let Marshall sit since the Broncos dont have to do anything. They could franchise him after this year. Even if Shanahan was still here, Marshall wasn't guaranteed to get some big contract- remember Portis and Lelie?

                      Apparently Marshall's issue stems from the treatment he got from the Broncos' medical staff about his hip. They apparently said it was minor but when he went into surgery, the doctor said it had substantial damage. Marshall's trust issues come from that.
                      He is lucky to be have given this many chances. He is a talent but his act is old and not worth it. See if the Bears want to give up two more first rounders for a punk.
                      Last edited by Hammerhunker; 06-16-2009, 08:36 AM.

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                      • av7
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 11408

                        #731
                        Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                        I'd be tempted to give Royal the workload like last year but I shy away from it with him possibly straining a hamstring or ankle.
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                        • mKoz26
                          In case you forgot...
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 4685

                          #732
                          Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                          If you guys don't mind, we could take Brandon Marshall off your hands.

                          You guys took our best QB and WR from last year so it's only fair.
                          Bears | Bulls | Cubs | Illinois | #Team3Some

                          @CDonkey26

                          Originally posted by baumy300
                          Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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                          • yvesdereuter
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1688

                            #733
                            Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                            Originally posted by avrbas
                            I'd argue with you but I already know not to bother, it's a waste of time.
                            Thats fine. Theres really not much you could say.

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                            • yvesdereuter
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1688

                              #734
                              Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                              Originally posted by mKoz26
                              I was just snooping around on the Bronco's forum because I thought it'd be interesting to see what you guys thought of the Cutler trade/Orton/Marshall situation, but one thing, the bolded sentence, not cool at all. You just don't go there. Extremely rude to say that. I'm sorry, but that is not cool at all.

                              I know a lot of people think highly of him. The media treats him like a saint but theres something about how that whole thing went down and the book that is raw. But anyway, he was only mentioned in the Broncos thread because of what he said of Cutler, which, again, in and of itself is ironic considering that what he said of Cutler could have been said of himself before going to Indy.

                              Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read the Broncos thread.

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                              • av7
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 11408

                                #735
                                Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                                Minicamp wrap up: Winners and losers (and of course, more Marshall talk) : First-and-Orange is the authority on the latest breaking news and analysis about the Denver Broncos, written by Troy E. Renck, Nicki Jhabvala and other Denver Post sports writers. Colorado


                                WINNERS

                                - WRs Jabar Gaffney, Eddie Royal, Brandon Stokely and Chad Jackson: So maybe none of these guys presents quite the intimidating physical presence that No. 15 does, but these four receivers got plenty of reps with the first-team offense through the weekend. Gaffney at this point appears to be the most versatile and comfortable in the offense, no surprise since he followed McDaniels here from New England. Eddie Royal frequently looked like the very best skill position player on the field — fantasy alert! he’s going to make A LOT of catches this year — and Stokely is his same old reliable self Broncos fans are used to. Chad Jackson might have found himself in the best position through all this offseason turmoil. A guy who signed late last season and played little for Mike Shanahan, he’s getting a lot of work now and is familiar with the offense from his time in New England. I don’t expect him to be a starter, but he could find himself a role here, especially if Marshall protests his way out of town.

                                - QB Kyle Orton: He’s The Man heading into training camp. This is good for him from a leadership perspective and it will help him continue to build rapport with his receivers. He wasn’t always sharp in minicamp, but it surely is a confidence boost for Orton to know his coach has enough faith in him to anoint him as the No. 1 right now.

                                - TE Tony Scheffler: Kudos to Scheffler for making it through an entire offseason program healthy. After spending the last two Mays and Junes in the training room or on the sidelines, it was nice to see Scheffler working at full speed. He is playing behind Daniel Graham, but did get first-team reps in 2 tight end sets.

                                - OLB/DE Robert Ayers: Yes, Knowshon Moreno was impressive and I expect Moreno to make a major impact this season. But Ayers got more work with the first team of any rookie. He also showed tremendous work ethic by staying late after every practice to practicing catching balls from the Jugs machine. He was on the field for a solid 15 minutes, at least, longer than all of his defensive teammates each day.

                                - ILB D.J. Williams: Williams is still wearing the orange “no contact” jersey as he continues to recover from offseason shoulder surgery, but it didn’t look like Williams was limited at all. In fact, he appeared to get more work than just about any defensive player because of his starting spot in the base, nickel and dime packages. He is even on the first-team field goal block unit.

                                - RB Ryan Torain: He didn’t take any reps, but the fact that he was on the field practicing at all makes Torain a winner for sure. He showed good mobility and the grace we all remember from last summer as he worked through individual drills.

                                - OLB/DE Tim Crowder: The 2007 second-round pick was basically Mr. Irrelevant last season, but he was in with the first-team base defense at outside linebacker all weekend. He came out on passing downs, though he was on the second-team nickel unit. I talked to Crowder on Friday, and he said that all he can ask for is a chance to compete, and clearly he’s been given a clean slate by the new coaching regime.

                                - OL Seth Olsen: The rookie draft pick took all of the first-team reps at right guard while starter Chris Kuper was excused to attend his own wedding. There is very little chance Kuper’s absence hurts his standing — all the praise for the Ryans aside, I’ve heard talk that Kuper was the line’s MVP last season — but any time a young guy like Olsen can get that much early work with the starters, it is a good thing.

                                LOSERS (and we mean this in the nicest way possible)

                                - WR Brandon Marshall: You can’t win if you don’t (or won’t) play.

                                - P Brett Kern: Rookie Britton Colquitt looks like he’ll be more than just a camp leg. Kern, who had a solid rookie year in 2008, could find himself in another heated battle throughout training camp.

                                - DE/OLB Elvis Dumervil and Darrell Reid: I was hesitant to list these guys here, but the fact is, they were both relegated to the second-team through much of the weekend. Dumervil, did, however take a number of first-team reps on Sunday, swapping in and out with Ayers. This position battle is far from over and is shaping up to be possibly the most interesting competition of training camp.

                                - QB Chris Simms: Now officially the No. 2, which makes him the “loser” in the QB competition. But he handled the news well, praised Orton as a teammate and player and said he will continue to work hard, which makes him a “winner” in my book.

                                And now, onto Brandon Marshall, who just keeps finding ways to keep himself in the news and on the airwaves.

                                Here’s what we know: He wants a new, big-money contract that would pay him on par with what similarly productive receivers in the league make. He wants to rehab with his own doctors and trainers in Florida instead of at Dove Valley. And he seems to be OK with forking over thousands of dollars to do so.

                                My partner Mike Klis reported in today’s edition that the Broncos do not want to trade Marshall and that McDaniels has been in touch with Marshall’s agent. The fact that Marshall did show up for a face-to-face meeting with Pat Bowlen, and that communication remains open between him, his reps and the team is a good sign. We’ve all seen what can happen when there’s no communication …

                                That said … I don’t see this as a situation where either side is ready to compromise. It makes perfect sense that the team wants to wait to give Marshall a major deal until they see how he recovers from the hip surgery (not to mention the forearm and hand troubles that continued to bother him in 2008) and if he can stay completely out of trouble for a full calendar year. At this point, Marshall is a risk, and it seems everyone but him knows it. At a time when you would think Marshall would be doing everything to take the spotlight off of himself (in light of the ESPN piece a couple of weeks ago), he’s doing even more damage to his reputation.
                                Ryan Torain under the winner's list for just being on the practice field, lol. I have no hope left for the guy anyway
                                Last edited by av7; 06-16-2009, 11:38 AM.
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