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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #16
    Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

    Hello Steelers fans I want to ask you guys what you think of Stefon Logan. He's a former CFL'er and from an article I read today it looks like he's basically won the returner's job.

    Thanks
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    • mjb2124
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 13649

      #17
      Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

      Originally posted by SPTO
      Hello Steelers fans I want to ask you guys what you think of Stefon Logan. He's a former CFL'er and from an article I read today it looks like he's basically won the returner's job.

      Thanks
      VERY intriguing. I've been impressed with his KR/PR ability. He tore apart the Redskins and looked good against Buffalo. His biggest problem is that he would only be used as a KR/PR and doesn't really have a primary position. The Steelers have used him at WR during practices, but if he makes the team, I don't think we'll see him do anything outside of KR/PR.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #18
        Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

        Thanks

        Yeah, i've read that if he makes the team it's strictly as a returner. Hopefully he does so and does well. It would be a first step to him possibly getting a WR position in a year or two.
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        • steelcurtain311
          Banned
          • Feb 2009
          • 2087

          #19
          Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

          He doesn't have to be a great returner or anything. I'd just like a guy who doesn't muff punts/kicks and doesn't just all around suck at it, which is all we've seen from the position over the past few seasons. Santonio is alright at returning punts, but I think we should try saving him since he's going to have to be a huge part of our offense now.

          I really really really hate the Steelers offensive line. I wish they'd of tried trading up in the past two drafts to get a franchise type lineman. I really think we're going to have a lot of durability problems this year at the line, since most of these guys went from bench to playing 18 weeks last season.

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          • BurghFan
            #BurghProud
            • Jul 2009
            • 10049

            #20
            Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

            Originally posted by mjb2124
            VERY intriguing. I've been impressed with his KR/PR ability. He tore apart the Redskins and looked good against Buffalo. His biggest problem is that he would only be used as a KR/PR and doesn't really have a primary position. The Steelers have used him at WR during practices, but if he makes the team, I don't think we'll see him do anything outside of KR/PR.
            Yeah, he's looked awesome returning kicks. Like you said, his only downside is that he doesn't have a natural position. The Steelers definitely needed an upgrade in their return game though. At least we got Sepulveda back and he looks like he's made a complete recovery from his torn ACL.

            Originally posted by steelcurtain311
            I really really really hate the Steelers offensive line. I wish they'd of tried trading up in the past two drafts to get a franchise type lineman. I really think we're going to have a lot of durability problems this year at the line, since most of these guys went from bench to playing 18 weeks last season.
            And Stapleton goes on IR with a knee problem that hasn't responded to treatment. I had also been hoping the Steelers would take an O-lineman in the 1st round for the past couple years.
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            • steelcurtain311
              Banned
              • Feb 2009
              • 2087

              #21
              Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

              I have a feeling he won't be the last member of the offensive line going on the IR. That's when it's really going to start hurting, when we have to plug in even worse talent at the O line, considering we already have a group of guys who are average on a good day.

              A lot of this comes down to not resigning Faneca. I don't understand how you make Max Starks a priority and give him decent money, but you don't for one of the greatest offensive linemen ever, when he's still got 3-5 good years left in him.

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              • CreatineKasey
                MVP
                • Sep 2007
                • 4897

                #22
                Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                Originally posted by steelcurtain311
                I have a feeling he won't be the last member of the offensive line going on the IR. That's when it's really going to start hurting, when we have to plug in even worse talent at the O line, considering we already have a group of guys who are average on a good day.

                A lot of this comes down to not resigning Faneca. I don't understand how you make Max Starks a priority and give him decent money, but you don't for one of the greatest offensive linemen ever, when he's still got 3-5 good years left in him.
                I stopped questioning the Steelers' management a long time ago. They seem to know when to let guys go. It has been their style for years.

                Lloyd
                Greene
                Porter
                Chad Brown

                They just seem to know when to pull the plug. It is weird how the face of that offense really did drastically change from their 2005 Super Bowl.

                We could definitely use a jolt in our return game, no question. I haven't caught much of the Steeler preseason (not easy being in MN for that). Glad to read that Harrison is still looking great. there should be no dropoff in defensive production.

                On a positive note with the OL, at least these guys did put in a year together. Yeah, they aren't a strength, but I think they will be less of a liability than they were last year. That Eagles game gave me a stomach ache. They had to have come together at least somewhat to win a SB.

                One other quick thing: I never read anywhere about Lamarr Woodley's postseason. Dude has like 7.5 sacks in 3 games.

                Watching "Hard Knocks: Bengals Training Camp" reminds be of the Bettis years. Anyone else miss him running for 150 on those marshmallows?
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                • steelcurtain311
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2087

                  #23
                  Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                  Faneca was good last year though. I don't see him dropping off the face of the Earth any time soon, no signs of breaking down or anything. I just don't see how you let a HOF lineman go, but you pay a mediocre one.

                  Woodley is an awesome, awesome pass rusher. It did kind of go unnoticed what a monster post season he had last year.

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                  • tripwire
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 2604

                    #24
                    Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                    "Joystick" will make the cut.

                    I've never been this excited about their return game for a very long time now.

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                    • tyler289
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 2933

                      #25
                      Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                      Originally posted by steelcurtain311
                      Faneca was good last year though. I don't see him dropping off the face of the Earth any time soon, no signs of breaking down or anything. I just don't see how you let a HOF lineman go, but you pay a mediocre one.

                      Woodley is an awesome, awesome pass rusher. It did kind of go unnoticed what a monster post season he had last year.
                      If the Steelers re-sign Faneca to the money he'd wanted you'd probably have to say goodbye to Heath or Clark (or both). They did fine without Faneca and while I agree they need to upgrade the offensive line, they've had to manage the cap so they can retain their defense and other core pieces.

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                      • BurghFan
                        #BurghProud
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10049

                        #26
                        Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                        Originally posted by tripwire
                        "Joystick" will make the cut.

                        I've never been this excited about their return game for a very long time now.

                        Yeah, not since Randle El was around. Redman showed some nice moves on that TD run last night too and he probably has a decent shot of maknig the team as does Ryan Mundy. One things for sure, the rookies sure aren't making it easy on the coaching staff to decide who makes the team this year.
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                        • mjb2124
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13649

                          #27
                          Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                          Originally posted by BurghFan81
                          Yeah, not since Randle El was around. Redman showed some nice moves on that TD run last night too and he probably has a decent shot of maknig the team as does Ryan Mundy. One things for sure, the rookies sure aren't making it easy on the coaching staff to decide who makes the team this year.
                          According to Ed Bouchette, Redman was released. So was Carey Davis, Bruce Davis and Anthony Madison. Mundy made the squad and I'm sure Frank the Tank made the squad as well.

                          Nothing official yet, but Bouchette claims to have gotten some inside info.

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                          • tripwire
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 2604

                            #28
                            Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                            Originally posted by mjb2124
                            According to Ed Bouchette, Redman was released. So was Carey Davis, Bruce Davis and Anthony Madison. Mundy made the squad and I'm sure Frank the Tank made the squad as well.

                            Nothing official yet, but Bouchette claims to have gotten some inside info.
                            Heard the same about the Redman cut. Lack of conditioning rumour might be true. As is, with Parker, Mendy, and Moore, this guy would have never seen the field unless one of the 3 were out due to injury. I think Summers stays due to the fact that he can play FB also.

                            C.Davis is out, thank goodness. The B.Davis experiment is over sadly, sometimes the tweener picks work, sometimes not.

                            As is, lots of good PS players to sign if available. Not worried about who Tomlin and his staff cut, they know alot more than i ever will.

                            There are 2 new faces on this team that excite me the most. Logan is a given, but also watch out for Keyaron Fox. He's going to fit it very nicely in that LB unit, and will probably turn a few heads in the process.
                            Last edited by tripwire; 09-06-2009, 11:10 AM.

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                            • steelcurtain311
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2087

                              #29
                              Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                              Originally posted by tyler289
                              If the Steelers re-sign Faneca to the money he'd wanted you'd probably have to say goodbye to Heath or Clark (or both). They did fine without Faneca and while I agree they need to upgrade the offensive line, they've had to manage the cap so they can retain their defense and other core pieces.
                              They did "fine"???? No. They did terrible. They just drafted a future RB prospect, and they have no great run blocking to speak of, which is where Faneca comes in. Their line is made up of bench players, second and third stringers who don't belong on the field every down. They could of worked something out with Faneca to where he gets paid, and we don't get killed from the cap hit, considering the guy would of liked to stay in Pittsburgh.

                              We were going to say goodbye to Clark regardless, since the Steelers FS position is easily expendable. They'd have no trouble keeping Heath. He doesn't want to go anywhere.

                              The line problems are going to have to be fixed via the draft, but I don't see the Steelers picking high enough to do so, any time soon. They have to take a gamble and trade up.

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                              • BurghFan
                                #BurghProud
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 10049

                                #30
                                Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                                Been a rough start to the season with Polamalu going down in the opener then Parker having turf toe. Mendenhall has been a birght spot filling in for Parker the past 2 weeks though. Hopefully we'll have both back for next weeks game against the Browns. Unfortunately, Aaron Smith is lost for the season with a partially torn rotator cuff. Hopefully Kirscke, Eason, and Hood can step up and fill the huge void left by his loss. As many have said, Smith is probably one of the most underrated D-Linemen in the league. The Steelers also need to work on closing out games and not letting teams come back in the 4th quarter.
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