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  • mjb2124
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    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #31
    Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

    The Curse of The Terrible Towel.

    Now, I know most non-Steeler fans will never understand it, but aren't these 2 situations ironic?

    1. TJ Houshmanzadeh wipes his feet on the Terrible Towel in a tunnel at Heinz Field after the Bengals beat the Steelers. Steelers beat the Bengals in the first round of the playoffs that year and win the SB. The Bengals stunk the next 3-4 seasons and only started to play better this season...when TJ no longer plays for Cincy.

    2. A handful of Titans stomp on the Terrible Towel after beating the Steelers last season. They lose the next 2 games and have started this season off 0-5 (might as well make it 0-6 as the Pats are going to win today).

    Coincidence or Curse of The Terrible Towel?

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    • BurghFan
      #BurghProud
      • Jul 2009
      • 10048

      #32
      Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

      Originally posted by mjb2124
      The Curse of The Terrible Towel.

      2. A handful of Titans stomp on the Terrible Towel after beating the Steelers last season. They lose the next 2 games and have started this season off 0-5 (might as well make it 0-6 as the Pats are going to win today).

      Coincidence or Curse of The Terrible Towel?
      Hehe, I suggesting just such a curse in the Patriots vs. Titans thread.
      Last edited by BurghFan; 10-20-2009, 12:35 AM.
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      • steelcurtain311
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        • Feb 2009
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        #33
        Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

        So, since the season is basically over at this point....

        The positives:

        * Rashard Mendenhall has been the kind of guy who can take over games. While he was shaky at the start of the season, Tomlin turned him around and started getting him to reach his potential.

        * Santonio has quietly had a nice season. Not the great one that we were all hoping for after his monster SB performance, but definitely above average. He's on pace for well over 1,000 yards, he just hasn't had the big TD numbers. I think that's more of a coaching issue.

        * The offensive line was not "the" problem this year. I honestly feel like they played well above expectations. Definitely came together as a unit. Starks and Kemoteau both had solid years. I still hate Willie Colon and Tre Essex though, and I still think there's room for improvement, as in, drafting an offensive lineman in the first round if a good one is available. A lot of this is Ben and speaks to his leadership skills. They would kill themselves for him.

        * Ben has played well in my opinion. For the horrendous coaching job by Arians, he does the best he can. The turnovers are up, yes, but how many of them have been WR's running the wrong routes or dropping passes into the defenders hands? It's mostly miscommunications based off of bad playcalling, and not running the offense right. He's done everything he can to win games, and has won them, only to have the defense collapse in the fourth quarter.

        * LaMarr Woodley has had a great season. He's developed into a decent coverage guy, while still being a monster at rushing the passer. Him and Harrison are two guys that you could double every play, and they'll still get to the QB.


        Negatives:

        * The offense is a mess. Bruce Arians is an idiot. I hated him last year, and I hate him this year. His play calling is atrocious. I hated the actual hiring of him, as I can't see the upside in bringing in some guy who was fired by Cleveland, fired by Indy, etc.. He's shown nothing to prove he's competent, and seems to have no grasp of a balanced offense. We never use play-action when it makes sense. We never run when it makes sense. We never use the running/passing games to work off of each other. It's either one or the other. These problems always culminate in the Red Zone, where we're struggling to score. This offense is WAY too talented to be missing out on this amount of scoring opportunities. Every week you can cite plays where they're leaving points off the board from dropped passes, picks, fumbles, and then giving away points with the pick 6's. If their offense actually put up the points that they're supposed to be putting up, they wouldn't of lost a game this season.

        * Depth in the secondary. Ike Taylor had a solid year when you put the whole thing together. He had a few really bad games, but he always does. For the most part, he shuts down good WR's. He can't pick the ball though, we've come to find this out every season when he's dropping about 10 INT's. He's still a guy that you can rely on, in my opinion. On the other hand, they have nothing else. William Gay is TERRIBLE. We'll get a better look at Burnett and Mundy, but Mundy has looked pretty bad in the little playing time we've seen from him. And Burnett dropped the game winning INT this week against the Raiders, when it was thrown directly to him. Tyrone Carter has been abysmal for the most part. Alright in the run, but good god is he awful in coverage, he's never where he's supposed to be.

        * Limas Sweed is a failure? This season was his chance, it was his job to lose and he lost it. And honestly, I don't even feel Mike Wallace has been THAT much better than him. Mike Wallace has dropped passes, and made a good amount of miscues and dumb mistakes too. But Mike Wallace has also caught some passes, and scored some TD's. Limas can't seem to hold onto the ball, ever. I still feel like he should get in for a few plays a game and given a chance, but at the same time I kind of feel like cringing any time the ball is thrown his way.


        Fixes:

        * I think first round they have to go CB. We really need a solid playmaker CB that can take some pressure off of Troy. With a good CB on one side, and Ike Taylor on the other, plus Troy Polamalu at Safety, that's very solid. They probably need to draft a FS too, as I don't see them resigning Ryan Clark. The front 7 is fine. I would also say that offensive line isn't THAT big of a need. They can build some depth there through the draft, but if it's choosing between a great defensive back prospect and a solid offensive line prospect, I'd go for the DB. Also, I think they need to continue taking some WR's. I don't buy Mike Wallace as their next big WR, I just don't. I like Santonio, I like Hines as our possession guy, I love Heath Miller, but we still need WR's. When you have a franchise QB, you need to give him as many good targets as possible.

        * Fire Bruce Arians. It must happen. I don't care what Ben says, because I don't believe a word of it. I think he's just trying to be media friendly and not create controversy. He can't possibly think or feel like this offense is working, because it isn't. You have a lot to work with here. You have a great QB, a great RB who gets better by the week, two staples in the WR core with Hines/Santonio, a great TE in Heath Miller, and an offensive line that has played solid. There's no reason to be struggling to score points every week, especially when you're putting up 400 yards of offense in a lot of these games. A change MUST happen here, it's essential. The future of this group of Steelers depends on it.

        * Figure out what to do with MLB. James Farrior has had a pretty bad year. When it comes to leading the defense, he isn't doing that. There's SO many miscues on defense. You have players claiming they didn't know what play they were running every week. His individual performance hasn't been terrible, but it's been below what we're used to seeing from him. We just resigned him, he's been a staple with our defense since '05, so I'm inclined to say lets give him another chance. Meanwhile Lawerence Timmons has been battling a high ankle sprain all year, and then injured his other ankle as well. People still say he's underachieving and not right for our scheme. He's an awesome athlete, and I've liked what I seen from him. He's explosive at getting to the QB, especially from his position. I don't believe they should give up on him at all, if he can have a full and healthy season, I think he could turn out to be special. Keep in mind this has been his first year as a starter.

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        • bgeno
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          • Jun 2003
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          #34
          Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

          Tomlin says Joe Burnett will start at CB, Keenan Lewis will see playing time...

          http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09342/1019170-66.stm


          Ed Bouchette also says Ryan Mundy's role should be increased. I just hope his performance this past Sunday was an anomoly and not how he's going to play. I have high hopes for the kid because he's a local boy, and he's very smart and a hard worker.
          Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
          How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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          • steelcurtain311
            Banned
            • Feb 2009
            • 2087

            #35
            Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

            One thing that REALLY needs to decrease, is Tyrone Carter being on the field. Ever.

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            • BurghFan
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              • Jul 2009
              • 10048

              #36
              Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

              Well, that can't really be helped with Polamalu injured. Steelers definitely need to draft CB in the draft next year. Polamalu is the only real playmaker and game changer we have in the defensive backfield.
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              • SteelersFreak
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                • May 2004
                • 9582

                #37
                Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                I know Burnett is a young guy, and hasn't been playing particularly well, but I really like Tomlin playing him over Gay. I think everyone knows William Gay is pretty horrible so mixing it up with Burnett, who I think has good potential is a good thing for sure. Corner is definitely a need, I think Ike needs a wake up call that his position isn't really safe and I think he's starting to get it hopefully. Deshea is so old unfortunately, but I tihnk he's still our best option at the nickel since he's a veteran and he's not gonna make too many major coverage mistakes. I don't see us resigning Clark, he's been exposed this season without Troy next to him. Mundy scares me, he doesn't seem too smart in what he needs to be doing in coverage. Corner and safety are definitely a need for next year, whether they be in the draft or free agency, we need some fresh guys in there.
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                • Hova57
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                  • Mar 2008
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                  #38
                  Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                  Living here and not being a fan i think helps me look at the team.

                  Hines has to go he is a great reciever,but if this team is going forward its time for him to go.

                  Tomlin needs to do what he wants with this team. I get tired of hearing cowher ball, tomlin needs to have tomlin ball what ever that is he needs to make it known. they need to go to a two running back attack and use them.

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                  • bgeno
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4321

                    #39
                    Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                    Originally posted by Hova57
                    Hines has to go he is a great reciever,but if this team is going forward its time for him to go.
                    lol

                    For what reason?
                    Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
                    How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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                    • Hova57
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 3754

                      #40
                      Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                      the team has to move forward i know this is a touchy topic with steeler fans, but the man has to go the team needs to be younger . He's a great player but the offense looks like its going in a different direction. Pittsburgh football is all about tradition and loyalty i understand that , but times are changing. there is no cowher ball or big back running, they are missing out on potential recievers because they don't want to bump hines out. its just my opinion, but it has to happen they have gotten rid of players who i didn't like to see ie faneca, carnell lake, rod woodson so they have done it.

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                      • mjb2124
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13649

                        #41
                        Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                        I wouldn't bump out Hines Ward because he's still very productive. The minute his production starts to decrease is the minute he needs to be on the sideline.


                        Here's an interesting note... My friend works for a limo company and happened to pick up Deshea, Farrior and Hampton a few weeks ago. He mentioned something to Farrior about how often James Harrison was held and if it's frustrating to the other players. According to my friend, Farrior had some not so nice things to say about James Harrison.

                        I said it earlier in the season, but something is going on in that locker room. We'll likely never know what it is, but there's certainly some issues. Hopefully Tomlin can straighten things out...

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                        • Hova57
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                          • Mar 2008
                          • 3754

                          #42
                          Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                          too bad for farrior cause he wil prob be out for a younger LB. someone wrote that the front 7 is fine its really not. there was no anwser for aaron smith being out and let's face it he's getting old he'll be in year 10 or 11 they need stability on that side especially since that's most teams strong running side. Farrior is loosing a step. you really don't know what you have in Timmons. if they don't sign Hampton it looks a lot bleeker than what many think.

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                          • CreatineKasey
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                            #43
                            Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                            Originally posted by Hova57
                            too bad for farrior cause he wil prob be out for a younger LB. someone wrote that the front 7 is fine its really not. there was no anwser for aaron smith being out and let's face it he's getting old he'll be in year 10 or 11 they need stability on that side especially since that's most teams strong running side. Farrior is loosing a step. you really don't know what you have in Timmons. if they don't sign Hampton it looks a lot bleeker than what many think.
                            Farrior isn't going anywhere. He inked a long term deal last season I believe.
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                            • Hova57
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 3754

                              #44
                              Re: 2009 Steelers Thread

                              Originally posted by CreatineKasey
                              Farrior isn't going anywhere. He inked a long term deal last season I believe.
                              he signed in 2008 , plus he will be in his 14th season. they never had players at linebacker stick around that long, they got rid of porter he was only in his 11th

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