No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

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  • TheFlamingWeazel
    Banned
    • Jan 2014
    • 407

    #226
    Originally posted by Moose Factory
    I feel like creating a drinking game for every time someone from EA uses the phrase "Built from the ground up"...
    lol so true, hard to believe anything EA says these days.

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    • TheFlamingWeazel
      Banned
      • Jan 2014
      • 407

      #227
      EA were deleting comments and even relevant questions regarding GM connected yesterday on there own forum.....really dispicable practice imo.

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      • TheFlamingWeazel
        Banned
        • Jan 2014
        • 407

        #228
        Originally posted by dovuto86
        Sony delayed MLB the Show 14 a month and a half on the PS4, had Diamond Dynasty, Road to the show online, and ranked head to head and NONE of it was playable. I can't get through 4 innings without it dropping the match. Delaying the game is not the answer
        HUH? One example does not the norm make..The show has ALWAYS had online uissues, Drive club, is a rgeat example od why delaying is a good thing when not ready, that game is amazing now.

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        • TheFlamingWeazel
          Banned
          • Jan 2014
          • 407

          #229
          Originally posted by dovuto86
          So you are all saying that you would rather have EASHL added on the PS4/Xbox One in a broken state where it drops every game you try to play or freezes up every 5 seconds. Sony tried to FORCE broken online game modes to the customers in MLB the Show 14 and it is UNPLAYABLE online. Id rather have it not be included than have it included and only get to play 3 mins of the first period every game
          Umm no we'd rather they get everything working before launching, put the proper resources into the game.

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          • TheFlamingWeazel
            Banned
            • Jan 2014
            • 407

            #230
            @SIp_!16, that is a strawman argument.....The end consumer should not care what politics, effort has to go in behind the scenes, the end product is all that they should or have to care about,. Other sports franchises have not came out a year later missing half the modes. Do you criticize the president? Hope not you have never been right? You dont need to have done something to be able to cricize, there are many other comparable products to compare it to.

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            • Gerg04
              MVP
              • Mar 2012
              • 2647

              #231
              Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

              Originally posted by TheFlamingWeazel
              Anyone buying this is a part of the problem, no way should it be 60 bucks, or it should have been delayed until 2016. EA has a monopoly on hockey and no competition, this is what you get......
              Nailed it.

              The shame of it is, hockey has such a passionate fan base, we need our fix. And we're force fed this BS on a yearly basis with no other alternatives. NHL happens to be the 1 game I not only play the most, but play the most socially; and with friends who are not as "into" gaming the way I am.

              In reality if EA and/or Rammer were actually sincere and gave 2 craps about us, they'd have dropped the game to $49.99 at least. However we all know hell would freeze over, melt, then freeze again before EA did anything like that.

              Until someone comes along to show EA competition this will continue (the word "this" is referring to more than the lack of game modes).
              Last edited by Gerg04; 08-21-2014, 02:26 PM.

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              • Sip_16
                Rookie
                • Feb 2013
                • 351

                #232
                Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

                Originally posted by TheFlamingWeazel
                @SIp_!16, that is a strawman argument.....The end consumer should not care what politics, effort has to go in behind the scenes, the end product is all that they should or have to care about,. Other sports franchises have not came out a year later missing half the modes. Do you criticize the president? Hope not you have never been right? You dont need to have done something to be able to cricize, there are many other comparable products to compare it to.
                Okay I wasn't trying to say you have to be able to do what you are criticizing. I have a lot of criticisms regarding Be A GM and the AI and I can't create video games. I just saw on youtube that the EA NHL team apparently only took 12 months to make this game when they skipped 14 for next gen. If that is the case that deserves criticism because it lead to EASHL not being put in the game.

                Wasn't trying to anger anybody, just was saying no matter what you believe or not believe, only EA seems to know why or why not it was kept out.

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                • drog1602
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                  • Sep 2011
                  • 400

                  #233
                  Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

                  For me the EASHL was the only reason that myself and three other teammates played this game. There is zero resaon to purchse NHL15, even if they did patch it. Its too little too late.

                  When they do bring back the EASHL it had better exceed my expectations, not be a rehash of what we currently have (though I have little faith this will happen).

                  The way that EA SPORTS has handled this whole situation, has really left a bad tatste in my mouth and I sense that it has done severe damage to NHL series with other customers as well.

                  At this point I think we need a new game and new team that can start fresh and build back some of its damaged reputation. Perhaps the EASHL could be released as a stand alone product.

                  I wonder about the future of this series, it smells a lot like the demise of the 2K hockey game.

                  We all saw this coming.

                  I guess when you build from the ground up every year, you remain in the basement!
                  Last edited by drog1602; 08-21-2014, 10:05 AM.

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                  • htskr21
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 346

                    #234
                    I apologize if someone has already made this point. Electronic Arts is first and foremost, a business. In order to remain in business, you have to turn a profit. (At least over the long term.) The NHL team's allotment of resources (staff, equipment, travel, oversight, etc.) would be based both on historical profit (or loss) numbers from previous year(s), especially the numbers following the first launch of the NHL series on PS3 and an extrapolation (best guess) on potential profit with the next-gen console. I firmly believe Sean and anyone else on his team truly do want to produce the best possible product but they are only human. They have to sleep, take vacations, get sick and are some days more (or less) productive than others. Same as any of us.

                    Everyone is correct in stating that HUT made it in solely because it generates revenue for the NHL title and other modes do not, (at least in a measurable way.) In order to increase the revenue and therefore, the resources that the development team is given in the future, the title must make money, plain and simple. Whether or not that is fair to the consumer or not, well there's only one way to really make your voice heard and that's not to buy the product. Of course, if enough people did that, EA's most likely response wouldn't be to pour more resources into NHL 16' because they feel bad for us, it would be to pull the plug on the product when their deal with the NHL runs out. Much like MLB 2K and EA's subsequent silence on producing a baseball game for next-gen consoles. As a side note, Major League Baseball, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
                    Here endeth the lesson.

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                    • Qb
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 8797

                      #235
                      Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

                      You guys want a good example of an unacceptable junk post that isn't constructive and only serves to lower the standards of discussion at OS? Here you go:

                      Originally posted by Jellobiafra
                      I wonder how the only mode that was able to sneak in was Ultimate team?

                      Parents beware! do not allow your children access to your credit card # and expiry- EA will drain you of money you have not earned yet by selling your kids virtual baseball cards. The humanity of it all!

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                      • JimmyDeicide
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 623

                        #236
                        Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

                        Originally posted by htskr21
                        I apologize if someone has already made this point. Electronic Arts is first and foremost, a business. In order to remain in business, you have to turn a profit. (At least over the long term.) The NHL team's allotment of resources (staff, equipment, travel, oversight, etc.) would be based both on historical profit (or loss) numbers from previous year(s), especially the numbers following the first launch of the NHL series on PS3 and an extrapolation (best guess) on potential profit with the next-gen console. I firmly believe Sean and anyone else on his team truly do want to produce the best possible product but they are only human. They have to sleep, take vacations, get sick and are some days more (or less) productive than others. Same as any of us.

                        Everyone is correct in stating that HUT made it in solely because it generates revenue for the NHL title and other modes do not, (at least in a measurable way.) In order to increase the revenue and therefore, the resources that the development team is given in the future, the title must make money, plain and simple. Whether or not that is fair to the consumer or not, well there's only one way to really make your voice heard and that's not to buy the product. Of course, if enough people did that, EA's most likely response wouldn't be to pour more resources into NHL 16' because they feel bad for us, it would be to pull the plug on the product when their deal with the NHL runs out. Much like MLB 2K and EA's subsequent silence on producing a baseball game for next-gen consoles. As a side note, Major League Baseball, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
                        Here endeth the lesson.
                        This holds no merit when EASHL also has micro transactions which makes them a lot of extra cash, 2nd most to HUT .

                        So if its all about the money they should have just put in an NHL season mode ,EASHL and HUT.

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                        • canucksss
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2956

                          #237
                          Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

                          Originally posted by TheFlamingWeazel
                          EA were deleting comments and even relevant questions regarding GM connected yesterday on there own forum.....really dispicable practice imo.

                          That's their actual practice ever since. I know some were not polite and really deserve to be banned. But its different if they cannot take any criticism and have the arrogance of not improving the game and expect us to be silent about it.


                          Originally posted by TheFlamingWeazel
                          Anyone buying this is a part of the problem, no way should it be 60 bucks, or it should have been delayed until 2016. EA has a monopoly on hockey and no competition, this is what you get......
                          THANK YOU. I know the hockey fanatics need our fix, so those guys with X1 and getting the chance to play ahead of time can really do BIG FAVOR to this community. See what's in the game. If Only presentations, crowds and arenas are new and no improvement in gameplay, Live a life, BaGM etc, then we can say....no to 15 and a probable in 16.

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                          • ChubbyBanana
                            Don't Trust Influencers
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 7071

                            #238
                            Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

                            While I understand the disappointment in modes that were in previous versions not being there the game does what I want it to. NHL Moments, Exhibition, Vs 1v1 Offline, and Be a GM.

                            I think however you guys saying I'm "not a real hockey fan" or "I'm contributing to the problem" for planning on buying a game that fits my needs is ridiculous though. It'd be like if I said you were crazy to like EASHL and play it all the time.

                            Just my thoughts.
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                            • Gerg04
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2647

                              #239
                              Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

                              Originally posted by ChubbyBanana
                              While I understand the disappointment in modes that were in previous versions not being there the game does what I want it to. NHL Moments, Exhibition, Vs 1v1 Offline, and Be a GM.

                              I think however you guys saying I'm "not a real hockey fan" or "I'm contributing to the problem" for planning on buying a game that fits my needs is ridiculous though. It'd be like if I said you were crazy to like EASHL and play it all the time.

                              Just my thoughts.
                              I think the main point is they're stripping out features of the game and charging full price. Play all the game modes or not, it's the principle here.

                              I could be happy with only having online vs as I play that mostly. But I still dabbled in other modes, specifically EASHL. On the contrary some people only play EASHL.

                              The point is to each their own. And everybody has preferences on what mode they play. So to skip a year, (unlike Fifa, NBA etc) and still have features removed just tastes bad to us faithful fans/buyers of the game. Look if you can't get everything working properly fine, but don't admittedly remove features and charge full price. EA would never drop their price we know that. Again it's the PRINCIPLE.

                              And for what its worth, anybody telling you what to do with your money or "how much of a hockey fan you are" you should just ignore, bc that's straight troll speak.

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                              • jayenomics
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                                • Aug 2009
                                • 2076

                                #240
                                Re: No EASHL, GM Connected, OTP, or Live The Life in NHL 15 on XB1/PS4 (Interview)

                                NHL Moments is a useless game mode they could have spent that dev time on GM Connected or EASHL honestly.

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