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  • stooge 1010
    MVP
    • Jul 2011
    • 1723

    #181
    Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

    Originally posted by comickazie
    If he video is cpu vs cpu, then the NZ pressure is somewhat fake.



    If you notice when the player comes up the ice from his zone, he is along the boards. The player then takes almost a parallel turn from just before the centre red line to the centre of the face off dot.



    This gives the other teams players time to come back and reset themselves on there blue line to apply pressure.



    If the player just continued down along the boards, (like most of us would) he had a free skate deep into the opposing zone.


    That’s exactly what I notice now, you can skate down the sides and barely be touched.


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    • MizzouRah
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 8515

      #182
      Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

      Make sure the game is on "simulation" on the other modes you won't get that pressure.

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      • marino13
        D*lph*ns m*k* m* cry
        • Jul 2002
        • 1046

        #183
        Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

        Originally posted by MizzouRah
        Make sure the game is on "simulation" on the other modes you won't get that pressure.


        Where do you see that option. Once you change sliders that changes



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        • MizzouRah
          All Star
          • Jul 2002
          • 8515

          #184
          Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

          Originally posted by marino13
          Where do you see that option. Once you change sliders that changes



          Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
          I'm at work, but it's one of the very first settings when you start the game it asks you those few questions and the last one I believe is arcade, etc.. the last one is simulation.

          You can also change it in settings before a game. It might go to custom once you mess with the actual sliders.
          Last edited by MizzouRah; 10-26-2020, 12:27 PM.

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          • The EVHL
            Pro
            • Nov 2014
            • 799

            #185
            Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

            From further testing, it appears that this is a symptom of the dreaded "speed glitch" or "bezerk mode" whatever you want to call it that EA claims doesn't exist when using sliders offline.

            If I reboot the game from a hard restart (Xbox) which usually alleviates the "speed glitch" then the NZ pressure returns. I played some great games post patch, but also experienced some awful ones that I could tell a minute in and just shut it off.

            If you use default sliders, you probably won't notice this nearly as much as other who drastically change sliders as our gameplay is so fundamentally different from the default sliders.

            TL;DR: NZ pressure isn't broke when the game is playing properly.
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            • mrsaito
              Pro
              • Nov 2009
              • 743

              #186
              Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

              Can anybody give me feedback is to which version would be better; Xbox one x or ps4 pro?

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              • SuperGoalies
                MVP
                • Apr 2013
                • 3246

                #187
                Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                Originally posted by mrsaito
                Can anybody give me feedback is to which version would be better; Xbox one x or ps4 pro?
                I kinda like Xbox One X Version , don't get the Xboxone X S , get the Xbox One X (it has native resolution of 4k and HDR), Xbox one X S (doesn't have the real 4k or HDR) (it has Fake 4k resolution) .

                not sure on PS4 Pro.

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                • Potvin63
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 140

                  #188
                  Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                  This is my first NHL in several years. How can I get franchise mode to start with the correct roster for the Maple Leafs? I added Thornton and the two RFAs they just signed are on the roster (Mikheyev and Dermott) but when I start franchise I only have five defensemen, Spezza is 3rd pair D, and Dermott and Mikheyev have disappeared and I have to sign both and are asking for a lot more than they just signed for. This is really frustrating.

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                  • SuperGoalies
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3246

                    #189
                    Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                    u have to download the patch 1.1 and get roster update october 15th and vist HUT create a team, I sometimes think, they release hidden tuner updates through HUT.

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                    • leafsfan67
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 613

                      #190
                      Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                      Originally posted by Potvin63
                      This is my first NHL in several years. How can I get franchise mode to start with the correct roster for the Maple Leafs? I added Thornton and the two RFAs they just signed are on the roster (Mikheyev and Dermott) but when I start franchise I only have five defensemen, Spezza is 3rd pair D, and Dermott and Mikheyev have disappeared and I have to sign both and are asking for a lot more than they just signed for. This is really frustrating.
                      And then you go to sign them and you can't. Don't know why NHL doesn't do what the other sports games do and have a force trades options so you can replicate what your team does during the season.I mean if it's your own offline franchise what's the difference.

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                      • mikey87
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 134

                        #191
                        Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                        CPU vs CPU default full sim settings, All-Star:

                        Baie-Comeau Drakkar @ Tampa Bay Lightning 2-6

                        Tampa was leading by 2 until the end of the 3rd period, where they got a 5 on 3 powerplay and managed to score twice. So, the match was again way too close.

                        You can definately see that the play of BAC players is much more sloppy, but how on earth that doesn't show enough on scoreboard? And there was literally no neutral zone pressure at all. I'm on XBOX, but I believe that the game should be identical on both platforms? I just don't get it how some people are seeing nz pressure in the game when I can't see it on local games or in the Youtube videos? I have almost no time left on my trial, but seeing how the nz pressure is somehow gone and the player attributes doesn't have noticeable enough impact on the gameplay or scores, I don't see enough improvement in the game to justify the purchase. Could someone of the guys who claim to see nz pressure in the game post some video of that as I find it impossible to believe that this is nothing but you guys willing to see it. It might be a totally different case if you are controlling a team, I don't know, but as I'm a pure GM type player, that's not for me.

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                        • oosterbe
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 41

                          #192
                          Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                          Hi mikey87. I have read too many times now your comment you say there's no NZ pressure in the game at all. So I have to give my five cents for this thread. I am not interested to "play" CPU vs CPU matches like you, instead of that, I like to take control a team and play myself, and I definetely see and feel a lot of NZ pressure in NHL 21. I have played ice hockey games from late 80s, the first one was called FACE OFF (I guess it was published same year when you were just born. )

                          I even see a lot of player differentation in the game, partly because I have started to make my custom rosters (overall ratings vary between 55-95), and partly because I use my custom sliders with my special rosters (Superstar, player differentation maxed).

                          I enjoy NHL 21 a lot and highly recommend it if you are offline player.

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                          • mikey87
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 134

                            #193
                            Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                            Originally posted by oosterbe
                            Hi mikey87. I have read too many times now your comment you say there's no NZ pressure in the game at all. So I have to give my five cents for this thread. I am not interested to "play" CPU vs CPU matches like you, instead of that, I like to take control a team and play myself, and I definetely see and feel a lot of NZ pressure in NHL 21. I have played ice hockey games from late 80s, the first one was called FACE OFF (I guess it was published same year when you were just born. )

                            I even see a lot of player differentation in the game, partly because I have started to make my custom rosters (overall ratings vary between 55-95), and partly because I use my custom sliders with my special rosters (Superstar, player differentation maxed).

                            I enjoy NHL 21 a lot and highly recommend it if you are offline player.
                            Too many times? The thing is that I DO NOT SEE NEUTRAL ZONE PRESSURE IN THE GAME. And the more bizzarre thing is that in the first game I played (or watched) it was there and players got checked on the neutral zone many times. Yes, I am repeating myself, but it's not only me but most (if not all) the Youtube videos I have watched have the same problem, players are skating through neutral zone without any pressure applied against them. And by the way, player differentation is maxed when the slider is set to 5, anything above that will just stack the ratings towards min and max values thus making more players similar.

                            But you don't have to take my word for this, just "sim" a couple of games like I did and see for yourself. You will also notice that while there are some noticeable differences between players, the games will be very close, meaning that the attributes don't affect the scores or what will be happening in the rink.

                            Oh, and my nickname is not about my birthyear. My first hockey game was NHL 94 on PC.

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                            • oosterbe
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 41

                              #194
                              Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                              Originally posted by mikey87
                              And by the way, player differentation is maxed when the slider is set to 5, anything above that will just stack the ratings towards min and max values thus making more players similar.
                              I don't agree with you. The slider doesn't differentiate players magically, it effects how much player attributes play role when the game calculates what will happen in game situations. So maxing the slider gives more space to player attributes in the formula which calculates your player success in different in-game situations. Yeah, I have tested the slider in game and my settings are based on analyzing what I see and feel. I have a copy of a game myself and I guess you haven't because your opinions are heavily based on some CPU vs CPU videos in youtube. I have no interest just watch random CPU vs CPU gaming if I have a copy.

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                              • mikey87
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 134

                                #195
                                Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                                Originally posted by oosterbe
                                I don't agree with you. The slider doesn't differentiate players magically, it effects how much player attributes play role when the game calculates what will happen in game situations. So maxing the slider gives more space to player attributes in the formula which calculates your player success in different in-game situations. Yeah, I have tested the slider in game and my settings are based on analyzing what I see and feel. I have a copy of a game myself and I guess you haven't because your opinions are heavily based on some CPU vs CPU videos in youtube. I have no interest just watch random CPU vs CPU gaming if I have a copy.
                                Please stop that kind of an attitude. I have written several times that I'm still on a trial version. If you can't spend 25 minutes to see for yourself what I'm talking about while having the chance to do so, but instead start to accuse me about something tells me a thing or two about you. And those aren't postitive things. And at the same time you just keep closing your eyes from the problems that are inevitable.

                                And the effect of that slider has been cleared by an EA representative, so I'll value that explanation a little more than some random board guys's who seems to have an attitude issue anyway.

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