The Official 2011-12 Regular Season Talk Thread

[Kobalt]

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Is Rick Nash worth an almost $8 million cap hit per year? Something looks off to me about him. He seemed...clunky last night.

He's unmotivated. I think the losing is finally catching up to him.

The problem is that he is the "leader" and he cannot lead. It's time to cut ties.

Unfortunately, that'll never happen with these morons in place.

Yea and Nash doesn't play D either, and is a cherry picker. I don't think he's worth almost 8M cap hit because he never hit the 80pt mark(part of it was playing with nobody) and with the new CBA coming up and uncertainty of the Cap room, I wouldn't give up much for him. He has a lot of talent so I'm guessing a team would try and trade for him though if CBJ listens.

[IlliniM1ke]

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John Scott should not be used on defense, no idea why Q plays him back there so much he looks terrible.

Misplayed a puck badly, followed by a horrible clearing attempt, Vancouver had a wide open goal luckily they whiffed on it.

If he wants to play Scott on D he needs to dress 7 d-men for the game, otherwise he just needs to be used as a 4th line winger, using him on D puts way too much stress on our other 5 guys back there and especially with Seabrook being hurt right now (only day to day) we cannot afford that.

Brunnette ties it up, hopefully hes finally getting things going after getting off to a very slow start.

[RealmK]

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Trade everyone. Nash for Rask and more. Do it now.

um how bout no? Thomas isn't going to last forever and we can't afford Nash's huge contract. Heck he's the only talent Columbus has, why trade him?

[ImTellinTim]

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John Scott should not be used on defense

John Scott has no business being in the NHL. I had the pleasure of watching him come through town on terrible Michigan Tech teams. He did absolutely nothing when he played for the Wild. No talent hack.

[BlueNGold]

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um how bout no? Thomas isn't going to last forever and we can't afford Nash's huge contract. Heck he's the only talent Columbus has, why trade him?

There's plenty of reasons to trade Nash, but yeah, I doubt Boston dumps Rask unless it's a ridiculous offer. He's the successor to Thomas when he retires, which I assume would be soon.

As for the Nash situation, why wouldn't you trade him when the team is as bad it is and Nash has been there as long as he has? He's their most valuable trade asset, Columbus is in need of a rebuild (again), and the quickest way to do that would be to flip Nash for good young players and draft picks if you can. You have to figure that at this point, Nash just can't fulfill his role as "the guy" and needs a change of scenery to a team where he doesn't have to be relied on each and every night to carry the team.

Of course, there's that great point that's been mentioned here in that he's an $8 mil cap hit, so chances are it's probably going to be a little difficult to find takers I'm assuming.

[Money99]

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Wouldn't be a bad idea if CBJ trade Nash for young players, then suck for next season. Get Yakupov this year and Nathan MacKinnon in the '13 draft.

Start over, but what do you do with Jeff Carter?

I think if that happens, then you have to deal Carter too. He won't be happy being there with nobody to play with and rebuilding.
Plus, I'm not sure that fanbase wants to rebuild - especially when you consider they've been basically rebuilding for a decade now.

In today's NHL, goalies mean everything. Imagine if Justin Verlander could pitch every night? The Tigers might win 140 games if that was the case.
That's the equivalent in the NHL.

Mason is clearly not the one. I'd look to finding an upgrade and then adding another hardnose dman.

And I'm still not sure this team needs to be blown up just yet. Carter, Nash and Wisniewski have yet to play any stretch of games together.
I know it sucks to be patient again, but I think if this team adds a solid goalie and gets The Big 3 back in the lineup, they could make waves.

If they do have to blow it up or trade Nash, then Howsen needs to be fired.
This team has needed a puck moving dman for many years now and how many good ones has he passed over?

Not only that, they continued to try to get that home-run Russian pick for several years too.
If they had drafted smarter, this team is a playoff contender every year.

[Stu]

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Glad to see we can finally put this one to bed.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/No-police-charges-for-Zdeno-Chara-Sanity-Day-de?urn=nhl-wp17667

[DrJones]

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For starters, how about not giving out fat long-term contracts to the likes of Wisniewski, Umberger, Tyutin, and Methot? Yuck.

[IlliniM1ke]

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John Scott has no business being in the NHL. I had the pleasure of watching him come through town on terrible Michigan Tech teams. He did absolutely nothing when he played for the Wild. No talent hack.

I really can't disagree with that at all. Quenneville loves playing him though for some reason, why he loves playing him on D so much is mind blowing, if hes going to play him he should only use him as a 4th line guy so he gets minimal ice time and thats perfectly fine since you can hide him there with 11 other forwards, on D though you are killing your other 5 D-men who have to pick up the slack by having him out there.

In other Blackhawks news they waived Rotislav Olesz and have called Ben Smith back up, glad to have him back and look forward to seeing what he can do this season, he was huge for us against the Canucks in the playoffs last year.

[KmK]

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Where are all the west coast hockey fans? Hell of a win last night for the Kings. Anaheim got some great goaltending from Hiller but we finally ended it in the 7th round of the shootout. Best of all, they get to do it again tonight. Go Kings!

[SidVish]

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The Hawks played well last night. It's nice to see them capitalizing on the power play.

It's always nice to beat Vancouver. That makes it 4 wins in a row. Up next Calgary.

[Rancid Radio]

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Vinny scores! (if you don't know, Vinny LeCavalier is my favorite player ever)

Brett Connoly is very impressive, another goal out of him. Really enjoying the play from him and was expecting him to be solid prior to the season.

Lightning up 2-0 on the Penguins atm, hopefully they get this win after two very frustrating losses.

[Kobalt]

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Rumor is Jeff Carter asked for trade.

[BlueNGold]

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So, chances are good I'm going to a Jets game in December. This is their home schedule for December:

Phoenix, New Jersey, Boston, Carolina, Minnesota, Washington, Anaheim, NY Islanders, Montreal, Pittsburgh, LA, Toronto



The bolded ones are the ones I would really want to go to, but even games like Phoenix and Anaheim would be nice for obvious reasons.

As for the game tonight, Evander Kane is quickly becoming a beast.

[OSUFan_88]

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Rumor is Jeff Carter asked for trade.

Whatever.

Damn, we got a point tonight. That sucks.