Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 10 Impressions (PS3, 360)

[baa7]

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Just rented the 360 version. The last TW console game I owned and played was TW 06 for the 360 (I play the PC version). Now, given this is the fifth year on next-gen consoles, can someone please explain (justify?) why on earth EA STILL hasn't incorporated a tempo-sensitive swing ala Links 2004?

I'm truly baffled by this. This is supposed to by a golf simulation. The simple fact is, the ability to raise the club over one's head and hold it there indefinitely without losing power/accuracy, is arcade nonsense. The equivelent would be a video football game where one could drop back with their QB and scan the field for a receiver indefinitely without risk of getting sacked. And a football game like that would be considered laughable.

Anyway and as for the rest of it: the game strikes me as being developed for kids. What's with all the locked content, my god? And typical of EA and the restrictions they place on the user, I'm forced to carry a driver -- what's up with that? Also, the lack of authentic PGA atmosphere and presentation (don't these developers ever watch actual PGA tourneys on TV?), along with the cartooney player faces/models and the uber-bright color palette, all reek of an attempt to appeal to the gamer crowd as opposed to people who actually follow the PGA and who play golf themselves (and who live on earth and in world of muted, realistic tones and colors, lol).

I've been playing cyber golf for close to twenty years, and have been golfing and watching PGA golf on TV for four-plus decades. This game is neither representative of the PGA, or the skill and mechanics involved in hitting a golf ball correctly. It's a child's toy, is what it is.

[TwelveozPlaya21]

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Havent played an online tourney but i am hooked so far...trying to get my skills up so i can dominate on the tour so the tournament challenge is where im at. But so far i love it, gotta some thing unlocked but still working.
the one thing i hate is that you have to buy the course when XBox has it free.

I am also doing that and having some trouble doing so far. that one where you have to get up and down in 9 or less may cause me to drink lol, I can get to 6 through 3 then the 4th hole I always have trouble with.

[mikemj23]

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Just rented the 360 version. The last TW console game I owned and played was TW 06 for the 360 (I play the PC version). Now, given this is the fifth year on next-gen consoles, can someone please explain (justify?) why on earth EA STILL hasn't incorporated a tempo-sensitive swing ala Links 2004?

I'm truly baffled by this. This is supposed to by a golf simulation. The simple fact is, the ability to raise the club over one's head and hold it there indefinitely without losing power/accuracy, is arcade nonsense. The equivelent would be a video football game where one could drop back with their QB and scan the field for a receiver indefinitely without risk of getting sacked. And a football game like that would be considered laughable.

Anyway and as for the rest of it: the game strikes me as being developed for kids. What's with all the locked content, my god? And typical of EA and the restrictions they place on the user, I'm forced to carry a driver -- what's up with that? Also, the lack of authentic PGA atmosphere and presentation (don't these developers ever watch actual PGA tourneys on TV?), along with the cartooney player faces/models and the uber-bright color palette, all reek of an attempt to appeal to the gamer crowd as opposed to people who actually follow the PGA and who play golf themselves (and who live on earth and in world of muted, realistic tones and colors, lol).

I've been playing cyber golf for close to twenty years, and have been golfing and watching PGA golf on TV for four-plus decades. This game is neither representative of the PGA, or the skill and mechanics involved in hitting a golf ball correctly. It's a child's toy, is what it is.

good post that gives one of the first negative views of the game. I totally agree on the tempo sensitive swing part. My big problem with 08, 09 etc. was that against my better judgment I bought into the hype pumped out and was fired up to get the game year after year thinking things would be different. Problem was - year after year, after you get over the initial excitement of booting up a new game and you really peeled back the onion, it was still the same old same old with the core mechanics and game play. This is an issue that a lot of sports games run into IMO. Year after year developers say they come up with new "improvements and enhancements" to the games, when in reality it's just a bunch of gimmicky cosmetic and game play mode changes.

My issue with Tiger (as mentioned before) is that I want 65 to be an accomplishment. I know this is not everyone's cup of tea, but I think TW in the past has more than catered to the casual golfer. This is exactly why I hope fellow OS'ers will be honest and come back and post over the next few weeks to give REAL feedback after they have played and gotten some time with the game. I know now that many are reporting scores in the 80's and 90's on Tour Pro difficulty, but I want to hear what you are shooting once you improve your golfer. If 40's, 50's per round are the norm in both offline and online modes then it makes the game a very easy pass for me no matter how much I want to buy it.

[Pro Bowler]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 10 Impressions (PS3, 360)

Just rented the 360 version. The last TW console game I owned and played was TW 06 for the 360 (I play the PC version). Now, given this is the fifth year on next-gen consoles, can someone please explain (justify?) why on earth EA STILL hasn't incorporated a tempo-sensitive swing ala Links 2004?

I'm truly baffled by this. This is supposed to by a golf simulation. The simple fact is, the ability to raise the club over one's head and hold it there indefinitely without losing power/accuracy, is arcade nonsense. The equivelent would be a video football game where one could drop back with their QB and scan the field for a receiver indefinitely without risk of getting sacked. And a football game like that would be considered laughable.

Anyway and as for the rest of it: the game strikes me as being developed for kids. What's with all the locked content, my god? And typical of EA and the restrictions they place on the user, I'm forced to carry a driver -- what's up with that? Also, the lack of authentic PGA atmosphere and presentation (don't these developers ever watch actual PGA tourneys on TV?), along with the cartooney player faces/models and the uber-bright color palette, all reek of an attempt to appeal to the gamer crowd as opposed to people who actually follow the PGA and who play golf themselves (and who live on earth and in world of muted, realistic tones and colors, lol).

I've been playing cyber golf for close to twenty years, and have been golfing and watching PGA golf on TV for four-plus decades. This game is neither representative of the PGA, or the skill and mechanics involved in hitting a golf ball correctly. It's a child's toy, is what it is.

Thanks for the impressions, i was considering giving it a shot mainly for the online tourneys. With all the games coming out here recently it's hard for me to drop another $65 for a game that's much better on PC. Plus you have a course creator and a incredible amount of quality user created courses, just no online. This is probably by far the best sports game EA has ever made on PC, i just don't get dumbing it down for console.

[baa7]

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This is probably by far the best sports game EA has ever made on PC, i just don't get dumbing it down for console.

It's clear the target audience is the "young crowd." And no doubt that's where the money is, so it's understandable from that POV. Fortunately as you said, the PC version (TW 08) is a terrific game and totally customizable, and I don't have to fork out money for this game in order to get my golf jollies.

Check out my PGA CPU Opponents file on CourseDownloads.com

[baa7]

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My issue with Tiger (as mentioned before) is that I want 65 to be an accomplishment.

I hear you, bro. I've been playing TW 08 on the CPU for two years, and I can count on one hand the number of rounds I've broken 70. (Well, maybe two hands, but you get my drift.) No doubt this game would be somewhat fun to play online or whatever. But I brought the game home and fired it up, took one of the default pros, put the game on Tour Mode, and starting shooting. I think it was the third hole before I missed a fairway or green. I'm guessing scores in the 60's and 50's (and 40's??) will be the norm with this game.

[sooner1]

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Yeah all you guys that are talking about the difficulty lol. Where? I dont see it. Its so easy to hit the ball straight. I like the game but 08 on my ps3 was harder to hit straight. Im on 360 this year. I just dont see where this increased difficulty is. The game seems way easier to me. Yes I play on tour pro.

[mikemj23]

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I hear you, bro. I've been playing TW 08 on the CPU for two years, and I can count on one hand the number of rounds I've broken 70. (Well, maybe two hands, but you get my drift.) No doubt this game would be somewhat fun to play online or whatever. But I brought the game home and fired it up, took one of the default pros, put the game on Tour Mode, and starting shooting. I think it was the third hole before I missed a fairway or green. I'm guessing scores in the 60's and 50's (and 40's??) will be the norm with this game.

Hmmmmm . . . maybe I will pick up TW 08 for PC.

[starship]

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This game is almost unplayable due to the difficulty. The idiots at EA made it so hard that I played the first challenge at St. Andrews, which is supposed to be easy, and Paula Creamer birdied every hole. Complete bull****. Have fun guys.

I lost to Paula in that challange on the second hole of Sudden Death. She didn't birdie every hole, but she was definitely tougher than I would expect from a 1 point challange.

Another thing: I seem to recall that in the past when you went to SD that you went back to the 18th tee and kept repeating that hole until someone won. Well, we went back to a different hole (I think it was 14) and after halving it, we moved on to hole 15--just like the real deal. That's a nice improvment that I didn't expect.

[Zalf]

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good post that gives one of the first negative views of the game. I totally agree on the tempo sensitive swing part. My big problem with 08, 09 etc. was that against my better judgment I bought into the hype pumped out and was fired up to get the game year after year thinking things would be different. Problem was - year after year, after you get over the initial excitement of booting up a new game and you really peeled back the onion, it was still the same old same old with the core mechanics and game play. This is an issue that a lot of sports games run into IMO. Year after year developers say they come up with new "improvements and enhancements" to the games, when in reality it's just a bunch of gimmicky cosmetic and game play mode changes.

My issue with Tiger (as mentioned before) is that I want 65 to be an accomplishment. I know this is not everyone's cup of tea, but I think TW in the past has more than catered to the casual golfer. This is exactly why I hope fellow OS'ers will be honest and come back and post over the next few weeks to give REAL feedback after they have played and gotten some time with the game. I know now that many are reporting scores in the 80's and 90's on Tour Pro difficulty, but I want to hear what you are shooting once you improve your golfer. If 40's, 50's per round are the norm in both offline and online modes then it makes the game a very easy pass for me no matter how much I want to buy it.

On Tour Pro with Lightening Fast greens 65 will be an accomplishment for most. Putting is a real challenge. Yes I can hit every fairway and most greens but that isn't good enough anymore. You have to hit greens in a spot to line up putts and you have to nail the putts when you get the chance. I was worried it would feel cheap and arcade like but so far it feels real and rewarding.

You feel like you have done something when you make anything over 10 ft and you clinch up on every 3 footer. It is all about Tour Pro. It is all about fast or lightening fast greens. It is all about making putts.

Today's Tour Pro Daily is a perfect example. Turnberry with mild wind conditions and lightening fast greens. There are a hand full of people breaking 60 but a 65 puts you around the top 10 and a 69 puts you around the top 15. Those scores will get pushed back some during the day but real scores have a real chance of breaking the top 20-25. That wasn't the case last year.

[Zalf]

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Yeah all you guys that are talking about the difficulty lol. Where? I dont see it. Its so easy to hit the ball straight. I like the game but 08 on my ps3 was harder to hit straight. Im on 360 this year. I just dont see where this increased difficulty is. The game seems way easier to me. Yes I play on tour pro.

The difficulty is on the green. Hitting fairways and greens is still nearly automatic. Putts on fast+ greens aren't. It is only part of the solution but it is part.

[mikemj23]

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The difficulty is on the green. Hitting fairways and greens is still nearly automatic. Putts on fast+ greens aren't. It is only part of the solution but it is part.

I'm still not willing to concede yet ... ... that this game is dead for me, but the above comments about hitting fairways and greens has got me 99.9% there.

If you are hitting all the fairways and greens and putting is what makes scores more realistic now, then I fully expect scores to drop very quickly when people figure out the intricacies of the new putting.

[baa7]

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Hmmmmm . . . maybe I will pick up TW 08 for PC.

The thing is, with TW 08 on the PC, I'm playing on Intermediate and I struggle to break par. And there are still two difficulty levels above that.

[dave374]

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OK. I've played this game enough now to give it my highest recommendation.

A) It's hard enough
B) There are enough features and courses
C) The online component is excellent - though I wish there were tourneys designed for casual players (over 35) on the tour pro level. I really don't wanna beat "theworldzgreatestgamaeva"'s -35.

I would give this game a 9.4/10.

[mikemj23]

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OK. I've played this game enough now to give it my highest recommendation.

A) It's hard enough
B) There are enough features and courses
C) The online component is excellent - though I wish there were tourneys designed for casual players (over 35) on the tour pro level. I really don't wanna beat "theworldzgreatestgamaeva"'s -35.

I would give this game a 9.4/10.

So is -35 the lead right now in an online tourney on tour pro level?

I can't recall if I read - can users create their own tourneys? I assume not, but thought I would ask because it would be sweet to just create tourneys with OS members.