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  • ocat
    Rookie
    • Oct 2002
    • 310

    #16
    Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

    Originally posted by lhslancers
    Most amateur players would give up the game if they tried to play with the old time tour blades. You might find an old set at a local driving range. Give them a try.

    Persimmon woods? forget it. I actually collected a few old second tier MacGregor woods many years back. Good luck hitting them. They are really nice to look at though.
    Most amateur players would have better, more fundumentaly sound swings if they "learned" to hit old time tour blades and persimmons. I practice with a 3 iron hogan blade that was made in 1962 and a persimmon driver with an xx stiff shaft. If you can flush them you can flush anything. When I play on course I use modern equipment. Making practice harder for yourself is the best way to improve.
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    • Matt10
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2006
      • 16664

      #17
      Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

      Originally posted by orthostud23
      Matt10: Nice call on the Gigagolf site. Was looking through there items and thinking of getting one of the muscle back irons to see how it hits.
      It's got some good reviews so far. I like both of those forged mb irons too. Looking forward to your thoughts when you get them. Can't beat that price for top quality clubs!
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      • lhslancers
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        • Nov 2011
        • 3589

        #18
        Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

        Clubheads are important but not more than the shaft. Don't chintz on the shafts.

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        • Matt10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2006
          • 16664

          #19
          Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

          Originally posted by ocat
          ABS all the way my friend! The responses you got really shows what golfing companies have done to the game. Toasters on sticks and irons that supposedly hit straighter and give zero feedback. There is a reason handicaps have not dropped in 30 years, it's called "technology"
          I'll agree to a point in regards to how overpriced name brand irons are - but as far as technology, it has no correlation with high handicaps imho. It's just the fact that high handicappers choose to spend time on the driving range hitting drivers rather than hit their 100-yards and in clubs, combined with chipping and putting. That, and that alone is the reason handicaps continue to soar.
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          • ocat
            Rookie
            • Oct 2002
            • 310

            #20
            Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

            Matt10 I don't want to clutter this thread with my thoughts so I'd like you to take a look at www.bradleyhughesgolf.com and read "Equipment and the State of Golf" on the first page.

            Cheers
            Last edited by ocat; 02-05-2012, 04:17 AM.
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            • orthostud23
              Pro
              • Apr 2007
              • 570

              #21
              Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

              Originally posted by ocat
              Matt10 I don't want to clutter this thread with my thoughts so I'd like you to take a look at www.bradleyhughesgolf.com and read "Equipment and the State of Golf" on the first page.

              Cheers
              Good read!! Agree with many of the points he stated.
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              • Matt10
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2006
                • 16664

                #22
                Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

                Originally posted by ocat
                Matt10 I don't want to clutter this thread with my thoughts so I'd like you to take a look at www.bradleyhughesgolf.com and read "Equipment and the State of Golf" on the first page.

                Cheers
                It's all good, this place isn't super active and I think this breeds a good discussion.

                I read the article, it makes sense - and Bradley also confirms my suggestion for high handicappers to work on their 100-yards and in shots (invest in a gap wedge, etc) rather than focus on distance.

                Like I said though, I agree to a point that equipment is the source of high handicaps - but it's not as close as being important than swing instruction and the 100-yards and in shots. Overall though, Bradley, states the same thing in a round about way, I just believe equipment is the least of the reasons for high handicaps. Dave Pelz would agree
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                • Skyboxer
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20302

                  #23
                  Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

                  I made my most advancement in the sport when I stopped trying to bomb everything and started playing to my strengths.
                  I now take a good swing of driver or wood and do my best to get in the 85-120 range where I'm pretty dead on now.
                  I'll take a full swing wedge over a 40 yard in between "touchy feely" swing all day.
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                  • ocat
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 310

                    #24
                    Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

                    Good gameplan Skyboxer, mine is almost identical. I hit the club off the tee that will get me inside 150 yards, only back to a 4 iron though. So if a hole is 360yards, I'll hit the club I know I can hit 210 yards, 3 iron for me. On par 5's if I can't make home in 2 I try to lay up to 90 yards, that is a full 60* wedge for me. Course management is often overlooked and can save you plenty of shot over 18 holes
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                    • 8iron
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 314

                      #25
                      Re: Clone clubs vs. Real clubs

                      To the original OP's question, I think the advice to go to gigagolf or InGolf is the way to go. Both sites have good self fitting tools to help you pick shafts, shaft length, etc. I have a name brand set of TM Burner irons but bought my son the clone version from ingolf because he is still growing. I dont notice any difference other than that I sized his for his shorter body. I think for most golfers, investing the money saved on clubs in lessons or practice buckets will more than make up for any tech difference.

                      I've also noticed that, when I find a ProV in the woods, I am just as likely to slice that back into the woods as I was to put my Srixon in there in the first place. Equipment only affects those who are good enough to compete without using their handicap. Why spend four bucks a ball if one isn't skilled enough to apply the benefits the technology is supposedly able to impart?
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