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  • kehlis
    Moderator
    • Jul 2008
    • 27738

    #61
    Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

    I honestly think he needs to play more not less.

    Playing a round with nothing on the line is nothing compared to even a Thursday round.

    He's scheduled again in two weeks. Really hope he doesn't cancel.

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    • ImTellinTim
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      • Sep 2006
      • 33028

      #62
      Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

      Originally posted by kehlis
      I honestly think he needs to play more not less.

      Playing a round with nothing on the line is nothing compared to even a Thursday round.

      He's scheduled again in two weeks. Really hope he doesn't cancel.
      I agree with this. He doesn't get to show up and play when he wants any more. He needs to figure out how to be consistent in tournament play with the constraints his body now gives him.

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      • pietasterp
        All Star
        • Feb 2004
        • 6242

        #63
        Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

        Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
        I love Miller, he's not afraid to speak his mind and when someone hits a dumb shot, he lets us know it no matter who does it. And he's not afraid to say when a player looks to be having the yips because of the pressure. It's refreshing compared to the vanilla announcers you usually get in every sport who sugarcoat everything and afraid to criticize.
        Yeah, he's gotten better IMO in recent years. I used to not like him when he first started and that just carried over during the years, I guess. One thing is he's toned down his self-references a lot; he used to make everything about himself which is why I couldn't stand him. Much better now, I think.

        I like the CBS team the best, though - Faldo and Nantz are surprisingly good together, and for my money it just doesn't get any better than McCord and Feherty as the roving color guys.

        Originally posted by kehlis
        I honestly think he needs to play more not less.

        Playing a round with nothing on the line is nothing compared to even a Thursday round.

        He's scheduled again in two weeks. Really hope he doesn't cancel.
        Yep, agree with you guys on this one. He seems confident that he's on the right track, he just needs to get out into tournaments and play rounds with something at stake. As ImTellinTim said, he can't be so choosy about when/where he plays any more (if he's serious about working this out). I don't want to be armchair psychologist, but at least some of this is likely mental and he needs to just get comfortable in front of galleries in tournament play again....as crazy as that sounds for Tiger Woods. Because right now he's playing golf swing, not golf.

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        • JODYE
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          • May 2012
          • 4834

          #64
          Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

          I can't imagine, for as fierce of a competitor as he was that there isn't going to be some moment where pride kicks in and tells him he can't go out as he is right now.

          And I honestly don't know what he can do at this point to be honest. His swing his an absolute disaster. His putting has left him. Guy was maybe the best player ever 100 yards and in and now he can barely get wedges within 15-20 feet.

          I mean his confidence has to be shot. He gets ripped by nearly every member of golf media and ever since the PGA started testing for certain drugs, including the anti-anxiety stuff all the guys were taking in the early 2000s he has never really been the same.

          I hope for the sake of golf he gets it together, but man, it doesn't look good right now.
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          • lhslancers
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            • Nov 2011
            • 3589

            #65
            Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

            The Fox presentation isn't as good as CBS obviously and I like Norman and most of the rest but FFS get rid of Buck.

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            • DivotMaker
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 2703

              #66
              Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

              Originally posted by lhslancers
              The Fox presentation isn't as good as CBS obviously and I like Norman and most of the rest but FFS get rid of Buck.
              Agreed. Buck needs a mute button.
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              • Ruffy
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                • Feb 2008
                • 1516

                #67
                Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                Careful as bad as he is right now he can still find his game again and compete.

                Im not a Tiger fan but why harp on him aging when Lefty is out there getting some majors in his 40s.

                He does need to swallow his pride and call Harmon to get his swing in order...the Canadian coach he had ruined him.
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                • lhslancers
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                  • Nov 2011
                  • 3589

                  #68
                  Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                  Originally posted by Ruffy
                  Careful as bad as he is right now he can still find his game again and compete.

                  Im not a Tiger fan but why harp on him aging when Lefty is out there getting some majors in his 40s.

                  He does need to swallow his pride and call Harmon to get his swing in order...the Canadian coach he had ruined him.

                  Woods isn't aging he's shot. Lefty won't win again the way his short game is now. Misses too many putts and lays up way too much.

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                  • redsox4evur
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                    • Jul 2013
                    • 18169

                    #69
                    Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                    Originally posted by lhslancers
                    The Fox presentation isn't as good as CBS obviously and I like Norman and most of the rest but FFS get rid of Buck.
                    The one thing I like about Fox is that they have the top 5 players in the bottom right hand corner.
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                    • pietasterp
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6242

                      #70
                      Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                      Originally posted by lhslancers
                      Woods isn't aging he's shot. Lefty won't win again the way his short game is now. Misses too many putts and lays up way too much.
                      Agree - the 2 players aren't analagous. Tiger is completely lost right now. I don't know if he can find his way back, and he's also injured - he can't seem to play a round without his back or knees or something acting up. That just doesn't get better as you age.

                      I agree that Lefty is probably in his twilight at this point; he can't compete with the young gunners like Rory and Spieth and DJ. When they're all at their best, Lefty is at best a stroke or two worse than they are. 2 years ago at Merion was, I feel, Mickelson's last shot at a US Open. He probably won't come close again, and he's now on the wrong side of 45. But I don't expect a sudden decline from him; rather a long, slow, denouement. He could still win another Masters, though, I think - that course just seems to suit his game well.

                      I think the Tiger/Phil era is over, but it was a good run for both. Even if Phil never wins the US Open - and increasingly it's becoming pretty clear he won't - he's still had an all-time HoF career. Tiger's career - even if he were to never tee it up again - speaks for itself. Both provided some crazy entertaining years, but it's time for the next generation to have their chance.

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                      • DivotMaker
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2703

                        #71
                        Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                        Originally posted by pietasterp
                        I don't know if he can find his way back, and he's also injured - he can't seem to play a round without his back or knees or something acting up.
                        Unless I am missing something, Tiger has been healthy since he left Torrey and took additional time off.
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                        • pietasterp
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 6242

                          #72
                          Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                          Originally posted by DivotMaker
                          Unless I am missing something, Tiger has been healthy since he left Torrey and took additional time off.
                          No, I don't think you're missing anything, but it just seems (to me) like he's always stretching or reaching for his back and grimacing or whatever when he hits a bad shot. Although, I can't tell if he's just using that as an excuse or if something is really bothering him....I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, though.

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                          • Ruffy
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1516

                            #73
                            Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                            If i was in his camp...I'd convince him to take off 3 to 4 months....call Butch Harmon and get to work on being if he can get his swing back (as someone has already stated on here...which I fully agree with).

                            If he truly cares about the major tiles....which is really all that should matter to him.....he could give to craps about winning the "Jo-Shmo Insurance Tourney" or whatever tour stop. He needs to get a swing coach, get his swing in order, benefit from a "mental" break from golf, and come back refreshed and prepared to take a final shot at winning a few of these.

                            I still think Tiger can get a few more majors this way as he just too talented. Some of these majors you only need to be average for two rounds and great in the other two....and I think Tiger still has that in him.
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                            • lhslancers
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                              • Nov 2011
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                              #74
                              Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                              I don't think there's any love lost between Harmon and Woods. He needs to play in the lesser tournaments and not concentrate on the majors. Let's see the guy shoot 4 rounds in a row at par or better before claiming he can win anything again let alone a major.

                              There might be some hope left.
                              Last edited by lhslancers; 06-22-2015, 08:11 PM.

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                              • Skyboxer
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 20302

                                #75
                                Re: Jack's Record Is Safe

                                I miss Tiger.... I mean I like where golf is at with Jordan, Rory etc..
                                but I still miss Tiger a lot.
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