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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #1

    Still no local play together with created golfers!

    This is for PGA Tour 2K GOLF:

    My wife and I don't play many games together but she has always loved golf. I was really disappointed to read that 2K still will not allow us to play against one another using our created golfers.

    This is really beyond the pale, that they still can't figure this out.

    I have decided that I will rent the game and not purchase it.

    I am not posting this to look for people to convince me to buy it or anything, and I still may if I see it on sale, but I have to say, it is beyond ridiculous that in 2022 a company such as 2K has chosen to disregard this.

    I will be buying EA's game assuming that we can do this.

    Can any of you imagine how people would attack EA if you couldn't play Madden together on the couch using but certain teams?

    Really disappointed to read this........I don't know if anyone else is bothered by this but it really just is something I cannot believe is still not addressed.
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  • scagwi
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 2718

    #2
    Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

    Extremely frustrating.

    That is a mode of play I've enjoyed throughout the years when in person with my Uncle.

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    • RIFRIG
      Pro
      • May 2015
      • 822

      #3
      Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

      This is just one of many basic things HB have overlooked & are still charging the extortionate prices that are linked to top tier titles.
      HB as a studio are over a generation behind in development skills & 2K need to invest more money so they can bring some actual talent to their team. After seeing an interview with HB’s lead developer it’s clear that he isn’t ambitious enough to bring this franchise to where it needs to be.

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      • scagwi
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 2718

        #4
        Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

        Originally posted by RIFRIG
        This is just one of many basic things HB have overlooked & are still charging the extortionate prices that are linked to top tier titles.
        HB as a studio are over a generation behind in development skills & 2K need to invest more money so they can bring some actual talent to their team. After seeing an interview with HB’s lead developer it’s clear that he isn’t ambitious enough to bring this franchise to where it needs to be.
        100% agree

        I was pretty frustrated that 2k just "bought" HB, as opposed to building out a fresh team to get them serious about golf

        I don't really mean it as a knock on HB, but it just seems like we're finding the limits of what they're capable of doing, as currently staffed.

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        • ODogg
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #5
          Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

          Originally posted by scagwi
          100% agree

          I was pretty frustrated that 2k just "bought" HB, as opposed to building out a fresh team to get them serious about golf

          I don't really mean it as a knock on HB, but it just seems like we're finding the limits of what they're capable of doing, as currently staffed.
          I thought the same, I was so happy when 2K bought them. I didn't realize they'd just buy the PGA license, slap 2K on the box and not really change the gameplay itself.

          And I never dreamed that this upcoming game still wouldn't have fixed this issue.

          Well I still want to play it, and I"ll rent it, but seriously doubt I'll be playing this series anymore unless EA's golf is just terrible or has the same issue.
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          • jr86
            MVP
            • Jan 2009
            • 1728

            #6
            Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

            Whilst of course this should be an option, can you not just set it up:

            Round 1
            1. You play as your created golfer
            2. Your wife plays as Guest

            Round 2
            1. Your wife plays as her created
            2. You play as the guest

            That way you get to play a course twice, you each get any achievement/ xp on your created golfer respective rounds?

            Maybe I'm missing the point of your ask but if you and your wife enjoy the game as much as you say I'm not sure why you would boycott it when there is at least some kind of work around?

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            • RIFRIG
              Pro
              • May 2015
              • 822

              #7
              Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

              There will always be a work around but that’s not always the point when paying a premium price for a game that’s not got the bells & whistles to match it’s high cost.

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              • scagwi
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 2718

                #8
                Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

                Originally posted by jr86
                Whilst of course this should be an option, can you not just set it up:

                Round 1
                1. You play as your created golfer
                2. Your wife plays as Guest

                Round 2
                1. Your wife plays as her created
                2. You play as the guest

                That way you get to play a course twice, you each get any achievement/ xp on your created golfer respective rounds?

                Maybe I'm missing the point of your ask but if you and your wife enjoy the game as much as you say I'm not sure why you would boycott it when there is at least some kind of work around?
                While that's a creative idea, surely you understand the point is to play together with your created players .... in the same round, right?

                This should have been implemented years ago. Super frustrating.

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                • ODogg
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 37953

                  #9
                  Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

                  Originally posted by jr86
                  Whilst of course this should be an option, can you not just set it up:

                  Round 1
                  1. You play as your created golfer
                  2. Your wife plays as Guest

                  Round 2
                  1. Your wife plays as her created
                  2. You play as the guest

                  That way you get to play a course twice, you each get any achievement/ xp on your created golfer respective rounds?

                  Maybe I'm missing the point of your ask but if you and your wife enjoy the game as much as you say I'm not sure why you would boycott it when there is at least some kind of work around?
                  I think my wife and I have been more than patient, we've bought 3 or 4 games with this issue, have used workarounds as you describe, but enough is enough. I mean there's really no way to excuse a golf game not allowing local play with your own golfer.

                  If there was no EA game coming out well I'd be buying this and hoping for next year but since there is now I don't really have to do that. I do plan to rent it though until the EA game drops.
                  Last edited by ODogg; 09-14-2022, 07:57 AM.
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                  • ODogg
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 37953

                    #10
                    Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

                    In addition to this complaint I don't see a big change in graphics. The graphics, at least from what I've seen on PS5 and XSX, don't look that impressive. Not bad per se, but largely the same as we've been getting.

                    People can say what they like about EA but they usually know how to get maximum graphics out of their golf games.
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                    • jbd345
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 2436

                      #11
                      Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

                      Originally posted by ODogg
                      In addition to this complaint I don't see a big change in graphics. The graphics, at least from what I've seen on PS5 and XSX, don't look that impressive. Not bad per se, but largely the same as we've been getting.

                      People can say what they like about EA but they usually know how to get maximum graphics out of their golf games.
                      The unity engine allows for user created courses, while not the best looking it offers something ea can’t. The course designer is essentially the same one the devs use. As long as it stays in the game, the current engine is staying. Getting a new engine would basically mean starting from scratch.

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                      • ODogg
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 37953

                        #12
                        Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

                        Originally posted by jbd345
                        The unity engine allows for user created courses, while not the best looking it offers something ea can’t. The course designer is essentially the same one the devs use. As long as it stays in the game, the current engine is staying. Getting a new engine would basically mean starting from scratch.
                        We play golf only occasionally, we don't need a million courses so that's not a big deal to us.

                        I'm not expecting a complete new engine but better textures and real time lighting is something they should, and could, add to the game, if they wanted to.

                        The graphics were ok in 2018. Now they are looking pretty dated.
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                        • RIFRIG
                          Pro
                          • May 2015
                          • 822

                          #13
                          Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

                          Originally posted by jbd345
                          The unity engine allows for user created courses, while not the best looking it offers something ea can’t. The course designer is essentially the same one the devs use. As long as it stays in the game, the current engine is staying. Getting a new engine would basically mean starting from scratch.
                          HB using the designer to make Tour courses is another gripe of mine. Most or all of those share the same tree,grass & bunker types there’s nothing unique about these world class venues that indicates anything other than a small amount of effort have been put into them.
                          What I think would be a fair compromise is for Tour courses to be bespoke creations that give them a realistic look. Individually created bunkers ,colour variation on fairway/rough/greens that bring the courses to life etc.
                          I don’t mind the user created content being included but the designer limitations are so clear to see that I just don’t see value for money with it’s blanket use on the whole game.

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                          • scagwi
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 2718

                            #14
                            Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

                            Originally posted by RIFRIG
                            HB using the designer to make Tour courses is another gripe of mine. Most or all of those share the same tree,grass & bunker types there’s nothing unique about these world class venues that indicates anything other than a small amount of effort have been put into them.
                            What I think would be a fair compromise is for Tour courses to be bespoke creations that give them a realistic look. Individually created bunkers ,colour variation on fairway/rough/greens that bring the courses to life etc.
                            I don’t mind the user created content being included but the designer limitations are so clear to see that I just don’t see value for money with it’s blanket use on the whole game.
                            I wonder if they don't go full bespoke for the Tour courses because it would make the course designer output look fairly mediocre in comparison

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                            • MrArlingtonBeach
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4530

                              #15
                              Re: Still no local play together with created golfers!

                              Originally posted by scagwi
                              I wonder if they don't go full bespoke for the Tour courses because it would make the course designer output look fairly mediocre in comparison
                              They have done that a bit in 2K23 it seems, since pot bunkers are unavailable to course designers in the creator. I know people have made some pot bunkers in 2K21, but it sounds like such a time-consuming process that not many can or want to do it (imaging using individual log/stairs/picnic tables to make pots, one bunker at a time...woof).

                              I know they do use LiDAR for real courses, so the land is precise. But yeah, some of the real courses are underwhelming in terms of visuals.

                              I am really interested in seeing Pebble Beach in 2K23...there were several solid renditions of Pebble made by designers in 2K21 (so long, Bing Crosby Classic), so the official version has to be at least as good as those.
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