What company should develop a NASCAR Sim?

[RunN1st]

Re: What company should develop a NASCAR Sim?

EA did hire some of the former Papy team, a few as a matter of fact with mixed results. That started I believe in 2004 and Nascar Sim Racing while touted to be the end all of Nascar sims was a complete joke and utter failure. So much so that they pulled the plug on any future Nascar PC games.

It's not that EA doesn't have the talent or money it's that they focus on mediocrity. They want a game to cater to the sim crowd while the average Nascar fan who has never played a PC game to also have an equal experience. It never works. You either focus on a sim style experience or an arcade racer. Papyrus knew that. It was there passion and they threw caution to the wind. That's why they continued to build on every future release.

In the end NAscar Thunder 2004 turned out to be a better racer than Nascar Sim Racing.

How sad is that!

[bkfount]

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It's not that EA doesn't have the talent or money it's that they focus on mediocrity. They want a game to cater to the sim crowd while the average Nascar fan who has never played a PC game to also have an equal experience. It never works. You either focus on a sim style experience or an arcade racer. Papyrus knew that. It was there passion and they threw caution to the wind. That's why they continued to build on every future release.

well from what I learned with sports marketing, NASCAR fans are essentially sheep who are very brand loyal. As long as NASCAR games sell regardless, EA won't do anything.

Hell, how many years did it take for many nascar games to even have all the right tracks?

[Rodster]

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well from what I learned with sports marketing, NASCAR fans are essentially sheep who are very brand loyal. As long as NASCAR games sell regardless, EA won't do anything.

Hell, how many years did it take for many nascar games to even have all the right tracks?

As a matter of fact right from the start when Papyrus did their first Nascar game for the PC back in 1993. IMO EA is in no rush to do anything because they have an exclusive license with Nascar.

[bkfount]

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As a matter of fact right from the start when Papyrus did their first Nascar game for the PC back in 1993. IMO EA is in no rush to do anything because they have an exclusive license with Nascar.

then they must of removed some later on. I specifically remember having to download daytona for example.

[JBucc]

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I think EA is on the right track with 08. They just need to improve the AI, give the drivers personalities, and bring back the atmosphere that used to be in their games and then some. Of course if 08 sells well they'll probably just sit back, pat themselves on the back and not even try to improve it.

[mercalnd]

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As a matter of fact right from the start when Papyrus did their first Nascar game for the PC back in 1993.

Daytona was not in any NASCAR game until I believe NASCAR RACING 4 and EA's NASCAR 2001. There was a demo disc for NASCAR 3 that used Daytona and was later hacked to get the track into the actual game but it wasn't available legally. Pocono has been in and out of the games due to licensing issues and the original NASCAR RACING by Papyrus only had 8 tracks out of the box with an expansion pack for 7 or 8 more. I do not however know if the 15 or 16 tracks were all the Cup tracks at the time, except Daytona of course.

[Rodster]

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Daytona was not in any NASCAR game until I believe NASCAR RACING 4 and EA's NASCAR 2001. There was a demo disc for NASCAR 3 that used Daytona and was later hacked to get the track into the actual game but it wasn't available legally. Pocono has been in and out of the games due to licensing issues and the original NASCAR RACING by Papyrus only had 8 tracks out of the box with an expansion pack for 7 or 8 more. I do not however know if the 15 or 16 tracks were all the Cup tracks at the time, except Daytona of course.

Yeah you're right I forgot about Daytona. Now that you mention it they couldn't use it because Sega had naming rights to it with Daytona USA.

[countryboy]

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I think that EA is on the right track(no pun intended) with Nascar 08. The fact that I can add tire pressure to individual tires, set camber, grille tape, supspension and the likes is a good step. Also on the track the game is pretty good. Not great, but good. The fact that now AI cars will pit after an accident is something that is long overdue.

The biggest problem that I have with '08 is the Chase for the Cup mode. I shouldn't have to earn licenses and contracts and the likes to start my career. I should be given a truck ride or Busch ride(or Featherlights if they bring them back) to earn my stripes and learn the necessities I need to succeed. I love this in the previous games. I also liked the fact of owning my own team and hiring and firing drivers.

Hopefully will with get last gen features with a next gen racing experience next year. This year its hit and miss. The racing is good, the features leave something to be desired.

[Rodster]

Re: What company should develop a NASCAR Sim?

I think that EA is on the right track(no pun intended) with Nascar 08. The fact that I can add tire pressure to individual tires, set camber, grille tape, supspension and the likes is a good step. Also on the track the game is pretty good. Not great, but good. The fact that now AI cars will pit after an accident is something that is long overdue.

The biggest problem that I have with '08 is the Chase for the Cup mode. I shouldn't have to earn licenses and contracts and the likes to start my career. I should be given a truck ride or Busch ride(or Featherlights if they bring them back) to earn my stripes and learn the necessities I need to succeed. I love this in the previous games. I also liked the fact of owning my own team and hiring and firing drivers.

Hopefully will with get last gen features with a next gen racing experience next year. This year its hit and miss. The racing is good, the features leave something to be desired.

CB have you tried playing the game online?

[countryboy]

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CB have you tried playing the game online?

yeah...and its pretty bad. Lag really hampers the game. Have you tried?

[Rodster]

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yeah...and its pretty bad. Lag really hampers the game. Have you tried?

Nah I haven't and i'm on Live and not too many people I know but the game for the 360 or kept it. Too bad your 360 petered out. I was looking forward to us doing some wheel bangin racin.

If your not still sour on the 360 MS just released what looks like the updated 360's this week.

[countryboy]

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Nah I haven't and i'm on Live and not too many people I know but the game for the 360 or kept it. Too bad your 360 petered out. I was looking forward to us doing some wheel bangin racin.

If your not still sour on the 360 MS just released what looks like the updated 360's this week.

I think I'm just going to stick with PS3. I am not really "sour" at the 360, just don't want to be playing a system while in the back of my mind, wondering how long I have til it konks out.

The sad thing is that Microsoft rushed the 360 to get it on the market first and now they are paying the price. Its a shame because its a very good system when working.