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  • Flamehead
    Banned
    • Dec 2002
    • 1501

    #46
    Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

    Originally posted by Hellisan
    Nice review. i will have to pick this up!
    Thanks Hellisan. Speaking of reviews, check this one out from the Gamespot forums (not mine). Pretty entertaining and captures my thoughts exactly. I know I'm hyping this game a lot, and I'm sure in time the sheen will come off in some regards, but I'm really enjoying it:

    "Hey what's up guys. Look I know there are some out there saying this game looks good, but do I really need another racer? I'm a hardcore, simulation nut. Anything from Hardcore Flight sims, to hardcore racing games I'm there. I purchased Steel Battalion for goodness sake lol. I get a certain satisfaction out of knowing that I'm competing in a challenging game, in the most realistic way possible. Hardcore people we love realism, and don't like settling for less.

    If you are a gamer that says these graphics are grainy, or not polished, or there is no story or an evolving character, than this game may not be for you. This game is for the guy who truely loves the connection between man and machine. The true car, and racing enthusiasts love the graphics of this game and find it more than suitable for what we need. That is we just want to recreate the racing experience. Who has time to look at the trees, and the grass, or the crowd? We are concentrating on hitting the next apex correctly, and hitting our break points so we can exit the next corner with maximum grip and control. So we can shave off precious seconds.

    There is no cool soundtrack, and the menus suck! The true race fan gets enjoyment out of hearing the beautiful symphony under the hood, and exaust. The sastisfying note of the engine after a proper downshift. That's the only sound we're interested in. Simbin understands how important the sound of your car is to proper racing. The sound in this game is amazing to me. Gran Turismo, and Forza please take note.

    Hey I'm 31 years old and married. when I was younger and living at home I was able to keep a gaming PC, and played older racing games on PC like Papyrus's Indycar Racing II, to get my racing fix. As the years went on I just got tired of building PC's to play my favorite games... lol Ok My wallet got tired. I just couldn't afford it. So I got accustomed to the Gran Turismo series, which is a great series, but Lord does it have it's glaring flaws. Horrible AI, No damage, and horrible sound. The driving physics in GT have improved over the years, but to me that means nothing if I can run right into the back of someone and vice versa and nothing happens. They call it the driving simulator, but that's not driving I've ever seen anywhere. Cockpit View added to GT shows atleast they are heading in the right direction.

    This brings me to Forza..Great game in it's respects. Great online system. Auction house, and Painting is phenominal. The lows in Forza to me are it's weightless cars. and slippery traction. I get no sense of body roll, and weight transfer, car behavior from it. They are on a good path with the whole tire gripp/loss of grip mechanic they implemented into the game...but at the same time all assists off doesn't mean the car should feel like it's on Ice skates. The no cockpit view kills it for me in Forza...I'm the type of racer that takes cue's from steering inputs, body roll, and weight transfer to help me nail better laps.

    Which Finally brings me to Race Pro. Since not having a PC, I've always kept an eye on Racing Sims, especially Simbins excellent titles. Always envious of those who had full race set up in their living rooms. I'm talkin guys who had Force feedback steering wheels, 3 pedals on the floor, and H pattern shifters. Knowing a hardcore racing games of that caliber may never hit consoles. So when I saw GTR never came out, but now they are giving us Race Pro...I was like Praise Jeeeesus.

    I go into Gamestop, and pick up the game yesterday, and the kid behind the counter says to his buddy...wow dude we are selling out of these Race Pro's...We only ordered six and after this guy buys this one, we'll only have one left. I din't think this game was this popular. Inside I smiled and said yeah us hardcore have been waiting for a game like this. I told him I was thinkin about getting Street Fighter 4 and Race Pro, but that I know after I get my *** whipped online in SF4, I'd be playing Race Pro longer anyway lol. I'll wait till SF is 20 bucks and pick it up on the cheap. (This is big cause a F'n love Street fighter Man)

    I get home pop it in, and go to the menus, and turn off all the assist off, no racing line, change my control set up to manual. In the back of my mind I'm like oh boy be ready to be all over the place. So I pick the Mini...throw the cockpit view on, and squeeze the trigger. AAhh a nice deep grumble from engine. Shifting in this game is sweet. Start increasing speed and it feels gooood....the sound, the handling, weight, the grip, it feels damn good. That's the whole point of all my rambling this damn game feels good man..I was lapping and besting my times, having a blast with the Mini. Played with some of the other cars and everything drives differently. Excellent. I love this game because it came to do what it needed to. No flash, no fluff, just gets the Job done. It's satisfying. Next I'm going to try it with the microsoft wheel. Not the best wheel in the world, but we'll see how it goes. Just wish I could use my Gran Turismo wheel on Xbox but whatever... Just wanted to share my point of view.. Happy Racing Guys."

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    • Hellisan
      Fan of real schools
      • Jul 2002
      • 1893

      #47
      Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

      Nice review! I'm a hardcore Forza 2 gamer and in fact I am in an 8-week race series right now and only the third week this upcoming Sunday. I test cars/get good times for a "tuning garage" (lol i know) known as TDS Racing (The dummy suckers!) and am quickly becoming one of the elite drivers around despite not playing this game nearly as often as certain other people. I am so serious about this game that I will not drive the S-Class and U-Class cars my mates tend to like tuning after Wednesday, because I have to start getting ready for that A-750 weekend race on Sunday.

      Why the rambling? Just to say that I'll probably wait till after the series to pick this game up, it'll totally screw me for Forza. But it sounds incredible. It sounds like it truly shines where Forza 2 lacks, which is an in-car camera, the sounds of the engine/suspension/gears, etc. I really liked messing around with the Dirt (and the other game they made) demos just for those sounds!

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      • pcline85
        Rookie
        • Feb 2009
        • 4

        #48
        Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

        I love Race Pro. Being a fan of Simbin for a long time I knew the game would be sharp on physics...but hopefully on the next installment they can give a bit more to the game as far as graphics go.

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        • Rules
          Go Irish
          • Jul 2002
          • 3813

          #49
          Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

          I'm still trying to score a copy. I'm baffled as to why they apparently didn't ship that many copies of the game. My local EB has only received one copy! Best Buy, Target, Walmart are all saying next Wendesday.

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          • lnin0
            MVP
            • Aug 2003
            • 1507

            #50
            Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

            Originally posted by Rules
            I'm still trying to score a copy. I'm baffled as to why they apparently didn't ship that many copies of the game. My local EB has only received one copy! Best Buy, Target, Walmart are all saying next Wendesday.
            Yeah, that was my fear too but I lucked out - Gamestop had a few copies and I got in early.

            This has always been an issue with niche titles and more so now that stores are tightening inventory. I always found it laughable how many people are goaded into pre-ordering the Halos and Maddens of the world, in fear there will be none come release day, when those titles are a dime a dozen at every game store, retailer and 7-11. Yet try to find a niche title at a store that supposedly specializes in games and you are out of luck.

            Now I am thinking maybe I should pre-order Destineer's Stoked for next week. That publisher has far less weight than Atari. Maybe I'll just Amazon it and save me from having to deal with Gamestop at all.

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            • pcline85
              Rookie
              • Feb 2009
              • 4

              #51
              Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

              I had a similar problem as you guys, there are a gazillion (eight) Gamestop stores within 20 miles of me and only one had the game wednesday. Then I go to Best Buy thursday and they had four copies. The explanation was that they get shipments based on pre-orders (Gamestop).

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              • lnin0
                MVP
                • Aug 2003
                • 1507

                #52
                Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                Originally posted by pcline85
                I had a similar problem as you guys, there are a gazillion (eight) Gamestop stores within 20 miles of me and only one had the game wednesday. Then I go to Best Buy thursday and they had four copies. The explanation was that they get shipments based on pre-orders (Gamestop).
                Yep, they stock based on pre-order. Yet the only titles they push for pre-orders are the mega-blockbusters. Ever walk into the store and have they guy ask if you want to pre-order Race Pro or Culdcept Saga? So basically they end up with the same stock as Wal-Mart or Best Buy, but maybe a day earlier in some cases. Another reason why I try to avoid Gamestop. For a so called specialty retailer they really do nothing for the gamer that a major box stores don't already do - other than bend you over for pennies on the dollar in exchanges.

                But anyway....back on topic. If you have been having problems feeling FF with your MS wheel try this tip from the Atari Forum: http://forums.eu.atari.com/showthread.php?t=89181

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                • jct32
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3437

                  #53
                  Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                  Thanks for the ffb find. As for the setups it lumps them all into one group so you will have to name them so you know what they are
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                  • Lakers 24 7
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 725

                    #54
                    Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                    I've finally unlocked my fav car, the C6R, so I've been trying to play online with it but I cannot get in a room that ever finishes. The entire time I've had this game I've only finished 2 races online. Every other time the connection gets dropped, hopefully they fix this soon since the career mode is a bit watered down I really want to start racing online.

                    Hopefully we can get a league of sorts going here, since there's practice runs and qualifying this game would be amazing for a league.

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                    • Rules
                      Go Irish
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3813

                      #55
                      Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                      Just picked the game up at Toys R Us. It was not on display but instead behind the counter. Now, I am waiting for my racing car seat cover to dry as I had to wash it since my cat decided to pee on it while I was out.

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                      • Bahnzo
                        Can't spell antetokounmpo
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 2809

                        #56
                        Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                        Originally posted by jct32
                        As for the setups it lumps them all into one group so you will have to name them so you know what they are
                        I've noticed this also....does it at least lump them into folders for each car? Haven't noticed that yet. Also I've noticed that you can't delete replays and setups either? I'm sure you can go into the Xbox console setup and delete them there, but what a pain.

                        Originally posted by Lakers 24/7
                        The entire time I've had this game I've only finished 2 races online. Every other time the connection gets dropped,
                        Same here...but private rooms seem stable for now.

                        Originally posted by Rules
                        Now, I am waiting for my racing car seat cover to dry as I had to wash it since my cat decided to pee on it while I was out.
                        Sorry, but that made me laugh!
                        Steam: Bahnzo

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                        • jms493
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 241

                          #57
                          Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                          39.99....I couldnt hold out.....used that Christmas BB gift card finally!

                          Probably try it out manana.
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                          • Regian
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8

                            #58
                            Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                            Actually got this game on Thursday. Excellent game thus far. I've got to get out of my GRID high-speed cornering deal and get to a more realistic approach, though.

                            I'm a little surprised that the US reviewers have been rather stiff about this game. They love this game in the UK, it looks like.

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                            • jms493
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 241

                              #59
                              Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                              I understabd the lower scoring.......if you give forza a 9/10 then you cant give this game a 9. The racing is just as good as forza but no auction house, no customizations, less cars, less tracks, crappy damage model.

                              I played Laguna Seca last night.........was sort of like playing forza with heavier cars....the Mini is easy to drive so it is hard to tell........I liked the driving............it is what I expected

                              Good way to put it..........it is "Forza 2 Prologue"
                              Last edited by jms493; 02-23-2009, 10:28 AM.
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                              • Flamehead
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 1501

                                #60
                                Re: Race Pro - You got it yet?

                                Originally posted by jms493
                                Good way to put it..........it is "Forza 2 Prologue"
                                I disagree. Race Pro is what I wish Forza was--great physics model, good AI, and 15 more cars on the grid, while (IMHO), Forza has decent physics model, ok AI, and 7 other cars on the track--7? I don't think Race Pro was shooting for the kiddies that like to paint their cars, customize them, etc., or for that matter, the casual professional reviewer who thinks that all racing games should be carbon copies of the others.

                                IMHO, Race Pro was shooting for a different niche. And in the end, if there's a game out there for what you like, then hey, win-win.

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