it's all over but the shouting

[TidePride50]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

The points system is going to be changed in the offseason. The winner of the race will benefit more and it will discourage those with damaged cars to get back out on the track. Let me see if I can find a link.

I cant seem to find anything recent, but I did read it somewhere last week that it will be changed.

[wawasman]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

excellent news....if you do stumble upon it again, throw the link in here...thanks

[wawasman]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

excellent news....if you do stumble upon it again, throw the link in here...thanks

[wawasman]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

excellent news....if you do stumble upon it again, throw the link in here...thanks

[TidePride50]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

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excellent news....if you do stumble upon it again, throw the link in here...thanks

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Will do.

[TidePride50]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

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excellent news....if you do stumble upon it again, throw the link in here...thanks

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Will do.

[TidePride50]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

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slugox said:
excellent news....if you do stumble upon it again, throw the link in here...thanks

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Will do.

[griffy97]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

Yeah, congratulations to Matt Kenseth and the #17 crew. I drafted him on my fantasy racing team this year and he's been a savior, however, I earned far fewer points the last 10-12 weeks with him than I did earlier.

Thats Racin'.com reported that Nextel wants a revised points system starting next season that would reward victories and discourage damaged cars from staying on the track. The new system will go something like this:

The race winner will earn bonus points, anywhere from 10 to 15 points. Yet to be determined.

The points earned will continue to decrease based on position similar to what it does now, until you get to the 36th position. After the 36th position, cars 37 through 43 will earn the same number of points. So, unless you have a chance to crack the top 36, there's no reason to run the rest of the race.

In our fantasy league, qualifying also plays a big part. Each driver earns points as follows:

Qualifying points = 44 - qualifying position

Race points = Point total earned under current scoring system.

Bonus points =

Race winner gets 50 points
2nd through 5th position earns 20 points
6th thru 10th position earns 10 points

Personally, I think this is a fair system that strongly rewards winning the race, qualifying well, and finishing in the top ten. I'd love to see NASCAR implement a similar scoring system. You'd see a lot more competitive racing.

I'm a big fan of Matt Kenseth, so I'm happy for him. But, having said that, I've been disappointed in the mindset of not to lose with that whole team. Believe me, under under league scoring system, I paid the price for it!

[griffy97]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

Yeah, congratulations to Matt Kenseth and the #17 crew. I drafted him on my fantasy racing team this year and he's been a savior, however, I earned far fewer points the last 10-12 weeks with him than I did earlier.

Thats Racin'.com reported that Nextel wants a revised points system starting next season that would reward victories and discourage damaged cars from staying on the track. The new system will go something like this:

The race winner will earn bonus points, anywhere from 10 to 15 points. Yet to be determined.

The points earned will continue to decrease based on position similar to what it does now, until you get to the 36th position. After the 36th position, cars 37 through 43 will earn the same number of points. So, unless you have a chance to crack the top 36, there's no reason to run the rest of the race.

In our fantasy league, qualifying also plays a big part. Each driver earns points as follows:

Qualifying points = 44 - qualifying position

Race points = Point total earned under current scoring system.

Bonus points =

Race winner gets 50 points
2nd through 5th position earns 20 points
6th thru 10th position earns 10 points

Personally, I think this is a fair system that strongly rewards winning the race, qualifying well, and finishing in the top ten. I'd love to see NASCAR implement a similar scoring system. You'd see a lot more competitive racing.

I'm a big fan of Matt Kenseth, so I'm happy for him. But, having said that, I've been disappointed in the mindset of not to lose with that whole team. Believe me, under under league scoring system, I paid the price for it!

[griffy97]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

Yeah, congratulations to Matt Kenseth and the #17 crew. I drafted him on my fantasy racing team this year and he's been a savior, however, I earned far fewer points the last 10-12 weeks with him than I did earlier.

Thats Racin'.com reported that Nextel wants a revised points system starting next season that would reward victories and discourage damaged cars from staying on the track. The new system will go something like this:

The race winner will earn bonus points, anywhere from 10 to 15 points. Yet to be determined.

The points earned will continue to decrease based on position similar to what it does now, until you get to the 36th position. After the 36th position, cars 37 through 43 will earn the same number of points. So, unless you have a chance to crack the top 36, there's no reason to run the rest of the race.

In our fantasy league, qualifying also plays a big part. Each driver earns points as follows:

Qualifying points = 44 - qualifying position

Race points = Point total earned under current scoring system.

Bonus points =

Race winner gets 50 points
2nd through 5th position earns 20 points
6th thru 10th position earns 10 points

Personally, I think this is a fair system that strongly rewards winning the race, qualifying well, and finishing in the top ten. I'd love to see NASCAR implement a similar scoring system. You'd see a lot more competitive racing.

I'm a big fan of Matt Kenseth, so I'm happy for him. But, having said that, I've been disappointed in the mindset of not to lose with that whole team. Believe me, under under league scoring system, I paid the price for it!

[wawasman]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

you certainly have some interesting ideas there...ive always thought that since they always make such a big deal out of finishing in the top 10, that there should be a much larger difference in points for finishing 11th and lower.....also, i dont think any driver placing below 20th should get any points at all....or, since you mentioned it above, maybe some points for qualifying but nothing for the race.....and the polesitter and the winner need to get a bigger boost in points....maybe like 10 bonus points for a pole and at least 25 extra for the win, if not 50....something to make these guys go for it instead of just "finishing" knowing they want lose too much of their lead

[wawasman]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

you certainly have some interesting ideas there...ive always thought that since they always make such a big deal out of finishing in the top 10, that there should be a much larger difference in points for finishing 11th and lower.....also, i dont think any driver placing below 20th should get any points at all....or, since you mentioned it above, maybe some points for qualifying but nothing for the race.....and the polesitter and the winner need to get a bigger boost in points....maybe like 10 bonus points for a pole and at least 25 extra for the win, if not 50....something to make these guys go for it instead of just "finishing" knowing they want lose too much of their lead

[wawasman]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

you certainly have some interesting ideas there...ive always thought that since they always make such a big deal out of finishing in the top 10, that there should be a much larger difference in points for finishing 11th and lower.....also, i dont think any driver placing below 20th should get any points at all....or, since you mentioned it above, maybe some points for qualifying but nothing for the race.....and the polesitter and the winner need to get a bigger boost in points....maybe like 10 bonus points for a pole and at least 25 extra for the win, if not 50....something to make these guys go for it instead of just "finishing" knowing they want lose too much of their lead

[pk500]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

Slugox is right: Awarding the same number of points to finishers 36-43 will do absolutely nothing to discourage wrecked cars from staying in the garage.

Why? Because they're still earning points. And the mindset of "we must go out and run laps to earn those valuable Winston Cup points" is ingrained in NASCAR. Crew chiefs will figure there will be another big wreck or attrition, and the wrecked car will climb into the top 35 and earn more points.

Plus, there usually are six or seven cars per race eliminated in a wreck or by mechanical failures. So the junkers turning laps still will finish in the top 35 and get points.

Formula One and World Rally have the right idea: Only the top eight score points. Now, those series only have fields of 20 factory cars or less. But I really think only the top 25 or 30 in Nextel Cup should score points. If you're outside of the top 30, you suck or are unlucky and don't deserve points.

Some may say that no points after 30th place will encourage drivers to park ill-handling cars early. Well, what's wrong with that? All the slow cars do is get in the way and cause wrecks, anyways. And sponsor pressure will keep all the cars on the track. Even if its car is running 36th, the CEO of the sponsoring company wants to see his logo circling around the track.

The NASCAR points system rewards mediocrity just as much as it rewards consistency. That's no way to crown a champion.

Take care,
PK

[pk500]

Re: it\'s all over but the shouting

Slugox is right: Awarding the same number of points to finishers 36-43 will do absolutely nothing to discourage wrecked cars from staying in the garage.

Why? Because they're still earning points. And the mindset of "we must go out and run laps to earn those valuable Winston Cup points" is ingrained in NASCAR. Crew chiefs will figure there will be another big wreck or attrition, and the wrecked car will climb into the top 35 and earn more points.

Plus, there usually are six or seven cars per race eliminated in a wreck or by mechanical failures. So the junkers turning laps still will finish in the top 35 and get points.

Formula One and World Rally have the right idea: Only the top eight score points. Now, those series only have fields of 20 factory cars or less. But I really think only the top 25 or 30 in Nextel Cup should score points. If you're outside of the top 30, you suck or are unlucky and don't deserve points.

Some may say that no points after 30th place will encourage drivers to park ill-handling cars early. Well, what's wrong with that? All the slow cars do is get in the way and cause wrecks, anyways. And sponsor pressure will keep all the cars on the track. Even if its car is running 36th, the CEO of the sponsoring company wants to see his logo circling around the track.

The NASCAR points system rewards mediocrity just as much as it rewards consistency. That's no way to crown a champion.

Take care,
PK